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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 8:11 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
I'm good with voting Varsoon.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 8:56 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Tell me why Dwlee is town though.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:38 pm
by Varsoon
It's either Diamond or BBT but since we're out of mislynches because we're all stupid, honestly, the thing to do here would be to no-lynch.
But, hey, we're stupid so
I really want to vote BBT because Dude. Claimed. Scum.
But given how aggressive and out the gate Diamond went for me, he's either and idiot who can't take the blame for failing town on every corner or he's scum.
I think it's far more likely that he's scum. In my mind, BBT scum would always sheep Diamond-town on a vote on me, so fuggit.
VOTE: DiamondSentinel

You guys can lynch me, but I've had the pool for the last scum in two players for the last five days and none of you guys listened to me.
If you think I'm scum after I was the reason for the town turn-around and lynching of scum in this game, go ahead.
Fuck your town selves into oblivion.
I'm fine with copping a loss because I hammered DGB and PereV to highlight how off-base and wrong you are.
That said, why the fuck would I kill Yosarian? He was townreading me and I was townreading him. If anything, my kill would be on Dwlee, who showed a ton of doubt on me yesterday--or on a town-Diamond, because everyone somehow thinks he's town despite him scumfucking it up.

But hey whatever, lynch me or Diamond and we're done here.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:43 pm
by Varsoon
In post 4422, DiamondSentinel wrote:Well, Varsoon, you just dug your own grave. VOTE: Varsoon

BBT, I need you to listen to me, because once I explain everything, it'll make sense why Varsoon has to be scum.

1. His role: His role is a direct counter to PV. Originally, PV claimed that there were downsides to using the drugs. That's not entirely true. There are only the natural downsides originally made. Varsoon's overclock ONLY counters PV. Only a scum will directly counter a town role.

2. The flavor: In Neuromancer, the main character is given an artificial liver so that he can not metabolize drugs, and is thus a form of blackmail.

3. The 2 quick hammers: Need I say anything else?

First of all, this is CYBERPUNK mafia, not Neuromancer Mafia.
Second of all, I outright claimed what my fucking overclock did--essentially on D1. It also counters poison, but I guess you're going to argue poison isn't in the game, right? Do you also think that a town roleblocker is scum-only? What a fallacious as fuck argument. Furthermore, if I was scum, WHY THE FUCK WOULD CLAIM SOMETHING THAT RUNS ONLY AGAINST A TOWN ROLE? You're really stretching here.

Also, why blame me for hammering wagons that you were on or that you started and YOU said were scum:
DrippingGoofball - 4 (PV, Dwlee, DS, Varsoon) Lynch!
PeregrineV - 4 (DS, Dwlee, Yos, Varsoon) Lynch!


You're literally saying, "Oh, yeah, I'm part of the reason that guy was ever in hammer range, but, uh, blame Varsoon, who only ever hammered because no one would listen to him!"

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:44 pm
by Varsoon
You also lied to town on multiple occasions about your role, your influence on the game, etc.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:46 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
You should have gone for Dwlee Varsoon, there is no way Diamond is scum.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:54 pm
by Varsoon
Dwlee's not scum, though. At least, not from my PoV.
If you're not going to ever buy Diamond scum, then there's no way we can get a lynch there today.
Would you be willing to no lynch?
Not that it matters, because scum will just kill Dwlee and end us up in a place where it's me vs you vs DS and you're not going to vote DS so
Town loses unless you're scum, basically. :/

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:54 pm
by Varsoon
Thanks a lot, BBT.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:56 pm
by Varsoon
In post 4416, PeregrineV wrote:Currently, I'd say lynch Diamond. Like where my vote is.
Literally.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:57 pm
by Varsoon
In post 4147, DrippingGoofball wrote:The only thing that made me a "wild card" was DS's absolutely ridiculous accusations about poisoner bullshit
Ayyyy

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:58 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Nah because I feel like there could be poison in the game and if scum poisoned someone last night a no lynch could cause the end of the game.

So I'd rather not.

Are you saying all 3 scum bussed Diamond hard on D1?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 9:59 pm
by Varsoon
In post 3715, Imperium wrote:Oh, it uses two. Meaning that Dwlee is either a three-shot gunsmith overclock cop or a lying liar who lies.
The only person who suspected Dwlee was Imperium, but I honestly don't think Dwlee is lying in this situation.
If that's the case, then I've been fooled, and it's whatever. Dwlee is a better player than I imagined. Fuck me sideways, fam.
Whatever.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:00 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Actually, it could be Diamond.

BG and Bee jumped off Diamond to vote Dwlee and tie the wagons. Points to Dwlee being town as scum have no reason to bus their buddy as a counter to town!Diamond.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:01 pm
by Varsoon
@BBT: Obviously not hard enough to lynch him. I've bussed my entire time on D1 as scum before in Pathfinder Mafia and I've been bussed by my entire team before on D1. It's not unheard of, and, if anything, ALL OF THE SCUM voting a single player on D1 is more likely a bus than not, right? Like, why would a whole scum team leave that many associative tells on a townflip?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:04 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
I fucking hate living to end game.

Properly fucking hate it. Especially in a game I haven't invested the time I should have in.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:05 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
I wanna speak with Dwlee first.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:06 pm
by Varsoon
^ That's a response to your 4435. I think Dwlee's town and Diamond is scum.
It really bugs me that you kinda phoned it in and even made a passing joke about being scum, BBT, but if that's the case, it's all gravy.

I hope Dwlee logs in sometime and doesn't buy into DS' rubbish. I'm going to go get breakfast. Denny's, yo.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:07 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
I was clearly joking Varsoon. I also hate that you're trying to push that angle to lynch me - like I would ever just outright claim I am scum.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 10:55 pm
by Varsoon
Sorry; it felt like the sort of confession I've seen scum give up when they are caught.
I was pushing other angles, too.

It's sort of frustrating, though--if we just lynched the people I wanted to lynch, we'd have won already.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 11:23 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
What's frustrating is that you purposefully hammered town reads for...ego reasons?

Like, I want to lynch you just for doing that.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:37 am
by Varsoon
I was willing to admit I may at least be wrong--sometimes I am. DGB really thought PereV was scum, too.
I'm not really looking to say that I wasn't wrong or dumb for those hammers, but that we should take it all as example to not play stupid in the final stretch.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 2:16 am
by DiamondSentinel
In post 4428, Varsoon wrote:
In post 4422, DiamondSentinel wrote:Well, Varsoon, you just dug your own grave. VOTE: Varsoon

BBT, I need you to listen to me, because once I explain everything, it'll make sense why Varsoon has to be scum.

1. His role: His role is a direct counter to PV. Originally, PV claimed that there were downsides to using the drugs. That's not entirely true. There are only the natural downsides originally made. Varsoon's overclock ONLY counters PV. Only a scum will directly counter a town role.

2. The flavor: In Neuromancer, the main character is given an artificial liver so that he can not metabolize drugs, and is thus a form of blackmail.

3. The 2 quick hammers: Need I say anything else?

First of all, this is CYBERPUNK mafia, not Neuromancer Mafia.
Second of all, I outright claimed what my fucking overclock did--essentially on D1. It also counters poison, but I guess you're going to argue poison isn't in the game, right? Do you also think that a town roleblocker is scum-only? What a fallacious as fuck argument. Furthermore, if I was scum, WHY THE FUCK WOULD CLAIM SOMETHING THAT RUNS ONLY AGAINST A TOWN ROLE? You're really stretching here.

Also, why blame me for hammering wagons that you were on or that you started and YOU said were scum:
DrippingGoofball - 4 (PV, Dwlee, DS, Varsoon) Lynch!
PeregrineV - 4 (DS, Dwlee, Yos, Varsoon) Lynch!


You're literally saying, "Oh, yeah, I'm part of the reason that guy was ever in hammer range, but, uh, blame Varsoon, who only ever hammered because no one would listen to him!"
THATS WHERE YOURE WRONG!

Our intermediary, Rylai, was Wintermute, a character exclusive to Neuromancer! UT also stated that it was based off of Neuromancer. Your flavor argument is 100% wrong.

Also, you didn't know that drugs were good, so you assumed that they were like poison and bad. So you gave it to BG. However, when Muffin hitched me onto them N1, your plan got a wrench thrown in there.

Similarly, your Lynch All Liars is a terrible push. If you were truly town, you wouldn't look at something as wishy-washy as that. You didn't have a problem with a. Lying yourself about your role, and b. Me lying to protect our position until it came time to push for a final lynch. You are certainly scum here.


Dwlee, I know this may be hard to do, but I also need you to trust me and lynch Varsoon. All of his behavior points to scum.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 2:26 am
by Dwlee99
:I

So diamond can you answer my questions at the bottom of the last page? I still think the scum team is in varsoon/bbt, I dont think I get such town vibes from scum for most of the game.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 2:27 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Dwlee, I want to confirm you as town.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 2:28 am
by DiamondSentinel
I'd say him not quickhammering is one.