Starry Night [Game Over]

[popsofctown]

so like in a regular game if it was 3 man lylo and you helped mislynch the other townie and got shot that night you'd say you "survived endgame"?

[Firebringer]

so like in a regular game if it was 3 man lylo and you helped mislynch the other townie and got shot that night you'd say you "survived endgame"?

theres no night after that though. so yeah, i would survive and join the mafia, obviously.

[popsofctown]

stronk play

[Ankamius]

What I'm not happy with is a lot of dissonance coming from her slot right now that seems totally based on whether we'd be amenable to a MariaR last pair standing rather than changing her read of you based on her play. She literally went from planning to leave you after one more red flip to townlocking you when you had like no meaningful play in the intervening period.

Can you expand on this please?

[popsofctown]

My goalposts is that if Shiro's next post is in pink again like predance I will say I won this game

[popsofctown]

What I'm not happy with is a lot of dissonance coming from her slot right now that seems totally based on whether we'd be amenable to a MariaR last pair standing rather than changing her read of you based on her play. She literally went from planning to leave you after one more red flip to townlocking you when you had like no meaningful play in the intervening period.

Can you expand on this please?

She said she planned to leave you because she nullread you, but a short time later she wants you two to be the last pair standing and she's really confident about it. You didn't post much between those two things. It doesn't make a lot of sense for town!MariaR to progress from nullreading you to townreading you without many posts from you.

[Ankamius]

which of her posts gave you those impressions?

[Ankamius]

btw I know I can look myself, but I want to see your thought process just as much as I want to see what the conclusion is

[popsofctown]

VOTE: Bitmap/Dunn
Can make a Bitmap case if needed, but I know we're lynching them anyway so it probably isn't needed. I went radio silent in my PT because I needed to debate if I was gonna kill Ank or not after that flip. I was going to going into the night because to me it made sense on why I was having such a major blind spot this game, but I think it could just be GR/Creature with me being wrong on how to read Oversoul.

Doesn't everyone in the game TR ank? Pops case seemed good I tr Ank everyone trs Ank
I know I'm town, so even if I have a bit of doubt because ik Ank is scum I do think it's more likely. Plus I don't want to lynch Ank based on 'They're good at scum so I doubt' because that's what happens to me and it's the most shit feeling in the world. If I think Ank is scum I wanna be confident on it and case her. So yeah I'm pretty good on us being more likely

She states she TR'd ank before I even towncased you.

She also didn't clarify that she "already" townread you all along before I did the towncase.

The LAMIST implications of threatening to leave the dance are pretty obvious. I know you're going to say "MariaR is super good so all of her scumtells will be 5d chess" but if your scumpartner is GRob and everyone thinks you're really good at scum you're going to have to do -some- form of LAMIST at one point or another

[Ankamius]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Ankamius]

funny story, I haven't looked at VCs all game

[Ankamius]

relevant:

Golden Robster was voting FB/Shiro at the end of first dance
Firebringer/Shiro was on Dunnmap
MariaR/me/pops/unwnd were on Deasrir

[Ankamius]

Shiro was the only unflipped slot not on GR

[Ankamius]

GR is actually really spewy on a scum Shiro

[Ankamius]

okay my entire plan for the rest of today

is to get a confident read on pops

because if I can townlock pops, then that's the endgame pair

[Ankamius]

BUT

I'm like 90% sure it's just shiro scum

[Ankamius]

unwnd we need to talk at some point

I want to know what pops has been saying in your PT all game

[popsofctown]

I taught him chacha
and rumba
and foxtrot
but most importantly
the waltz
waltz is the best dance
100%

[Ankamius]

truly wondrous

[Shiro]

I just woke up to everything having changed and rob flipping scum.

I am glad I was right.

[Ankamius]

Thoughts, Shiro.

[Ankamius]

I will make my case for where the game is probably within the next 24 hours, depending on what happens

But I think I have the game mostly solved, I just need to make sure of some things

[Shiro]

fire what does your PT look like?

its like less than a page, shiro gives a bit of thoughts on different players. I tell shiro i was down about us mislynching and then shiro tries to give me a pep talk, and then i ask for shiro for more thoughts on the wagons, and shiro hasn't posted since.

ohh shiro was also disapointed in me not giving alot of thoughts in the PT too.

That is true, tbh when you started posting everything I said I skipped the pt and posted directly here

[Shiro]

My goalposts is that if Shiro's next post is in pink again like predance I will say I won this game

SORRY I SAW IT LATE D:

[Shiro]

Thoughts, Shiro.

First of all I would like to state that I wasn't on Gold because I wasnt here.

Fire is kind wrong in saying I have been scumreading mariar whole game, I was scumreading, then I was townreading her, then I wanted to trust DUnn who is good at reading her but at the same time I was not scumreading her and now we are at the point of that .

Honestly, honestly I think it is unwn for last scum and this is pure PoE plus never truly likling the slot I get the same vibes from him as I did from golden. I can't really see pops as scum tbh.
I am 100% You and FB are town. 100% and I only read Fire wrong once. I do not think this is second.