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i definitely pushed gamma as a ML option twice as scum.

In post 4434, OutWorldER wrote:the only PR I flat-out didn't like was the quotes one. Other than that I thought they were generally well-thought out.

i really enjoyed that PR

In post 4434, OutWorldER wrote:the only PR I flat-out didn't like was the quotes one. Other than that I thought they were generally well-thought out.

I think the quotes one would have been a lot more of a problem without forewarning. As it was, there was a full dayphase where quotes for the restriction could have been set up to aid in communication later.

Honestly, BM could have put together a huge spoilered post explaining that he had to later speak only in quotes and would just use this database for later.

In post 4453, brassherald wrote:Honestly, BM could have put together a huge spoilered post explaining that he had to later speak only in quotes and would just use this database for later.

Tbh this sounds like something TSQ would've nixxed for being "not in the spirit of the task," but looking back on this I think that was by far my biggest issue. Mafia is a lot to do with "solving," and to me the "solving" that goes on around PRs is almost always "how can I mitigate the restrictiveness of this so that I can continue posting and further my agenda/catch the baddies" and if you just take a blanket NO Magic Wand and wave it at that whole aspect of a game with PRs, I think it contributes to a huge feeling of resentment, or at least it 100% did in me.

I loved my couplet PR, but it made it absolutely impossible for me to even want to post. And then I got fking shit on by Scum and had to do it Yeah, ouch, big no thanks from me.

In post 4454, Maestro wrote:I loved my couplet PR, but it made it absolutely impossible for me to even want to post

after a little while

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EBWOP

Also, I think I feel so strongly about this I'd rly like to start seeing mods offer some warning that PRs will be used in some way in game mechanics. They're quite easily my least favorite mainstream non-Normal mechanic, I think, and punish optimal play from all factions, contributing to game stall and a host of other issues that I think showed up in this game too.

I do think I should have had a disclaimer about PRs, but at the same time, given that in my rule set it explicitly asks players to replace out if they're not having fun, I don't have a lot of sympathy for "I didn't have fun playing your game."

And I've just advocated for the same in another thread

Again, this was me trying to break down my own feelings in hindsight; it was not meant as an attack.