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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:42 pm
by Lord Mhork
Instead we can wait to hear from LB since he's the last remaining Big Sixer. I wanna know why all the auctions are so small. What happened?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:51 pm
by BBmolla
VOTE: Nero

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:08 pm
by Magua
Vote Count 6.1


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Nero Cain (2): 1baldeagle1, BBmolla
Harakiri (1): ProHawk

Not Voting (9): VoidedMafia, Nero Cain, Lost Butterfly, Garuda, Ghostly Penguin, Harakiri, uʍop ǝpısdn, zMuffinMan, Lord Mhork

Deadline for Day 6 is Sunday, December 22nd, at 5:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2013-12-22 17:00:00)


Quilford is posting in place of uʍop ǝpısdn until access issues for the hydra get resolved.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:11 pm
by ProHawk
In post 4475, Lord Mhork wrote:Instead we can wait to hear from LB since he's the last remaining Big Sixer. I wanna know why all the auctions are so small. What happened?
Remember that awesome plan that LB put up? No bidding involved.

Can we please just lynch one of my top-scum-reads?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:19 pm
by ProHawk
Hey Mhork, what are the odds all six of the "Big Sixer" is town?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:25 pm
by Lost Butterfly
In post 4478, ProHawk wrote:
In post 4475, Lord Mhork wrote:Instead we can wait to hear from LB since he's the last remaining Big Sixer. I wanna know why all the auctions are so small. What happened?
Remember that awesome plan that LB put up? No bidding involved.

Can we please just lynch one of my top-scum-reads?
That explains why the town bids are so low. The
scum
bids, on the other hand...

A huge infodump coming up, but the most important things to know are that 1) I have a Not Mafia result on zMuffinMan (which basically makes him confirmed town if Nero flips scum), and 2) today ISN'T MYLO anymore.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:40 pm
by Harakiri
In post 4479, ProHawk wrote:Hey Mhork, what are the odds all six of the "Big Sixer" is town?
I have strong reason to believe LB might be scum. As in, they have the nightkill. Talking to Mina privately at the moment.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:42 pm
by Lost Butterfly
In post 4481, Harakiri wrote:
In post 4479, ProHawk wrote:Hey Mhork, what are the odds all six of the "Big Sixer" is town?
I have strong reason to believe LB might be scum. As in, they have the nightkill. Talking to Mina privately at the moment.
I was in the middle of telling the thread that, but your first post in the neighbourhood QT was, "Shit, I thought deadline was tomorrow." Do you deny this?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:44 pm
by Lost Butterfly
Seriously, you can't respond to, "Harakiri, I have strong reasons to think you're scum, because I won NK for $1 and that shouldn't have happened," with "GUYS, I THINK LB IS SCUM. THEY CLAIMED TO HAVE THE NK."

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:46 pm
by Harakiri
Yes, I understand the logic. If you notice, my first post upon thread open today way that I was mad at myself because I forgot to submit actions.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:49 pm
by BBmolla
In post 4478, ProHawk wrote:
In post 4475, Lord Mhork wrote:Instead we can wait to hear from LB since he's the last remaining Big Sixer. I wanna know why all the auctions are so small. What happened?
Remember that awesome plan that LB put up? No bidding involved.

Can we please just lynch one of my top-scum-reads?
^Prohawk is probably scum too

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:50 pm
by 1baldeagle1
Btw, I did a meta search for one of Voided's town game, and he's acting similar to this, so I think Voided is town.

We are not lynching LB or Hiriaki today.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:51 pm
by Harakiri
If LB is town, why did scum not bid on the NK?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:56 pm
by 1baldeagle1
In post 4487, Harakiri wrote:If LB is town, why did scum not bid on the NK?
Because someone else could have bid on it.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:57 pm
by Harakiri
That is the one logical scenario, yes.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:58 pm
by Lord Mhork
I'm confused. Why did scum not bid on the NK then?

PEDIT:
Way beat me there.

So Harakiri is suspicious here

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:11 pm
by Lost Butterfly
Right now, I'm juggling posting in the thread with arguing with Harakiri in the neighbourhood QT, so am a bit distracted.

What I told him is that my theories were:

1) He's scum and messed up the deadline, and so he didn't submit his kill. (It's not 100% DAMNING, which is why I tried to pressure him before coming forward, particularly since I'd been town-reading the slot. And then I realized town actually loses a day if I shoot, so I didn't have to worry about Countermeasures and might as well come forward to let people know there won't be a town death tonight. If we mislynch today, then consider this my intention not to shoot. Probably even if we don't mislynch, actually.) Harakiri argued in the neighbour QT that he's been posting everywhere else and would have been more on top of things as scum. Frankly, I can see certain people in this game not paying enough attention to the deadline if they were Harakiri's partner.

2) Each scumteam thought it was the other team's "turn."

3) One or both scumteam is too poor to afford NK (and thought it would go for much more than it did), and so decided to go with the money transfer plan instead of bidding on NK. Harakiri's theory was also that they might be holding a NK in reserve.

4) The most terrifying theory: the scum accidentally locked out their counterpart. Part of why I decided to bid on NK was because after I said all that stuff about not wanting to bid on red auctions, I figured I was less likely to be locked out for that than something like bulletproof (and
pieguyn
would be locked out of NK again). This would implicate someone like Garuda.

Or some combination of the above.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:15 pm
by Lost Butterfly
*EBWOP: didn't submit a bid on nightkill, not didn't submit a nightkill.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:41 pm
by ProHawk
In post 4485, BBmolla wrote:^Prohawk is probably scum too
Then come at me you lazy piece of work. This game is literally over anyway. The people who I know to be scum wont die and town is screwed over. Lets roll heads Molla-Man.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:43 pm
by Voidedmafia
Well, now I feel stupid for second-guessing on transferring to LB.
In post 4466, BBmolla wrote:I still think Voided is scum :(
You're still wrong.
In post 4471, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I was actually willing to, but you guys lynched Esp before I got him. My wagon would have provided lots of information, especially the part where Nero scumreads me out of nowhere.
I am feeling like I was a little too hasty in hammering Esp before deadline. I just wish there was something to show for it.
In post 4472, ProHawk wrote:I hate this game.

VOTE: Harakiri
Why Hara?
In post 4474, BBmolla wrote:I don't even really think uwop is scum anymore. I don't think eagle is scum. I think we're going to mislynch me and eagle and Voided will win.
Who (besides Eagle) wants to even lynch you in 2 days?
In post 4478, ProHawk wrote:Remember that awesome plan that LB put up? No bidding involved.
I don't think that's his point.
In post 4480, Lost Butterfly wrote:and 2) today ISN'T MYLO anymore.
...Then it's LyLo, isn't it...?
In post 4484, Harakiri wrote:Yes, I understand the logic. If you notice, my first post upon thread open today way that I was mad at myself because I forgot to submit actions.
Okay...so why say in your NEXT post that LB's scum for getting NK for $1? I'm not following what you're saying, here.
In post 4486, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Btw, I did a meta search for one of Voided's town game, and he's acting similar to this, so I think Voided is town.

We are not lynching LB or Hiriaki today.
A.) What game

B.) YOU FINALLY CAME AROUND?! A MIRAAACLLLE!!
In post 4487, Harakiri wrote:If LB is town, why did scum not bid on the NK?
Because for some reason they're more scared of LB's cop results than they are of being killed at night.

Which is funny because instead of directly targeting the source of the cop (LB), they instead kill the person I guess had the most money (Pie). And by funny I mean nonsensical. Well, I guess it's true that if Pie's gonna die that night anyways they don't need to worry about whether or not she'll outbid them (though IIRC I'm pretty sure that she'd just win them anyways and then take them to her grave, unless I'm not remembering correctly).

But...I'm not seeing how all signs point to LB-scum, though I'll humor the possibility.
In post 4491, Lost Butterfly wrote:Harakiri's theory was also that they might be holding a NK in reserve.
We're still missing a kill that should've happened N1, so that's still likely.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:44 pm
by Quilford
oh man

i'm so dumb

blaaaaaah

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:47 pm
by Quilford
In post 4469, 1baldeagle1 wrote:uwop and BMolla are both scum. They were both scumreading each other, but they were both on the Esp wagon...
your point being?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:53 pm
by Harakiri
Okay I've calmed down some.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:59 pm
by Harakiri
I'm most confident in Mhork and eagle scum.

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:03 pm
by Quilford
o.o

i'm looking at bbmolla and nero for scum