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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:48 pm
by Transcend
So assuming Ceph and Fire are VTS

The town has

Commuterizer/Friendly Neighbor/Vig/JOAT/Some roleblocking thingamajiggy from Grib/Cookie Vendor (no idea what the fuck that is)

I think that's fairly balanced compared to scum having a tracker/cop hydra (???) and a 1 shot encryptor. If anyone disagrees LMK.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:52 pm
by Transcend
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Visitor

Okay that's what it is. Voyeur makes sense but scum also has a flipped tracker. Regardless, BRO should be town here, and I doubt he claims JOAT right after his partner does.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:53 pm
by Transcend
I'd be very careful though and proceed with caution because more likely than not the last mafia probably has a strongman power. Claims should be completed imo.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:59 pm
by Cephrir
I am a VT

Dexter's Mom from Dexter's Laboratory

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:00 pm
by Transcend
{MoI}
{Grib, BRO}
{Fire}
{Ceph, Zulfy}
{Snow}

MoI is definitely town I don't think he nk'd twice in a row when there was an opposing force at night that was eliminating his buddies. Plus, Gamma claimed to invalidate his claim. Would like to see who he used his action on each night.

Grib is probably town, he might've been the one leading the kill and then got commuterized, but to be on the safe side of things I'm gonna lead towards naww. Plus Gamma claimed to discredit him slightly as well.

BRO is most likely probably town as well, I don't see him throwing himself out there with a JOAT claim right after Gamma does.

Firebringer's tone and approach to this day does not seem like scum.

Cephrir and Zulfyslot have been fairly owny throughout the course of the game. Cephrir's lack of participation, is concerning but not extremely alignment indicative because I'm lazy too. Farside was solid town, Zulfy not AS obvious town but still has kept his slot in good graces. Plus I can really buy his claim.

Only thing good about Snow is kdowns' crumbing. It does make sense for him to be Buttercup. However that's really it. I don't feel solid about him being town. The associations between kdowns-key, kdowns-Gamma and Snow-Gamma don't feel too genuine. His posts also look a bit ingenuine and insincere.

Like I said I'd like to complete the claims but right now I see it being no one but Snow.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:07 pm
by Cephrir
i dont really think breadcrumbs are important when scum 100% have fakeclaims.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:09 pm
by Transcend
These are some random ass claims honestly. But they might be Faraday/Kitty's favorite characters from each show. I know that Patrick was my fav from SpongeBob, Cookie Monster was my fav from Sesame Street, DW fav from Arthur, Ron Stoppable fav from Kim Possible. Maybe they have similar feelings and just wanted all their favorites in the game.

PEDIT: Yeah, you're right. Which is part of why I kinda wanna just lynch the slot, but not before we set up what's happening with the night actions.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:11 pm
by Transcend
Clifford was also my fav from Clifford the Big Red Dog. I mean how the fuck can you not like Clifford... He's a giant ass red dog that wouldn't hurt a flea. Sorry for the vig kill C!

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:12 pm
by Transcend
I feel bad for Emily Elizabeth when she had to do dog poop duty though lol.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:14 pm
by Transcend
Also, I've never seen the characters that Aris and Gamma flipped but dear mother of God, I expect to see them in my nightmares eventually. :X

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:16 pm
by Transcend
Buttercup wasn't my favorite in the powerpuff girls btw. I think I liked Bubbles the most.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:21 pm
by Transcend
Oh whoops I also forgot about Scooby. How the hell can Scooby not be your favorite. He certainly was mine.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:33 pm
by Transcend
Lat mafia is one or all of the Teletubbies. Fucking hated all those motherfucker bitches.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:05 pm
by Grib
I'm Blue from Blue's Clues, a Public Kill Cop. I target someone, and if they make a kill, the mod reveals that the person I targeted was caught with a pawprint on them.

Obviously I'm only three-shot, because three clues in every episode. None of my shots have been successful, and I'm not informed if my ability fails, so.

Targtets were Ceph, hiplop, Bro from N2 onwards.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:13 pm
by Firebringer
I am Cassie from Dragon Tales, a Odd Night Role Cop.
Night 1 Spiffeh, Night 3 was Snowstorm.
Both vanilla.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:13 pm
by Firebringer
Did anyone even watch dragon tales as a kid?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:28 pm
by Transcend
In post 4489, Firebringer wrote:I am Cassie from Dragon Tales, a Odd Night Role Cop.
Night 1 Spiffeh, Night 3 was Snowstorm.
Both vanilla.
i remember it

i guess your softs weren't actually bluffs, rather, attempts to get them to claim VT or not. But if Snow is last mafia do you really think he'd be vanilla?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:30 pm
by Transcend
7 PRs

7 VTs

4 mafia

does this make sense?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:31 pm
by Firebringer
He has been acting scummy for days, I am kind of ignoring setup at this point.
like setup wise, no. But I am ignoring those assumptions at this point.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:32 pm
by Firebringer
In post 4492, Transcend wrote:7 PRs

7 VTs

4 mafia

does this make sense?
some of the town prs were really not strong.
Like look at Medical.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:33 pm
by Transcend
Medical and Waco were pretty weak.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:38 pm
by Firebringer
hmmmm....
it makes way more sense here if you are SK.
Or if one of the PR claims is lying.

If its not SS I recommend shooting in the PR claims, me, grib, moi, and bro.
Actually take bro out. I can't imagine he is scum.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:38 pm
by Transcend
In GIF's normal large he had a ridiculously stacked town with A doc, a nurse and a back up nurse, 2 machos, a motion detector, a y-night cop, a vig. This was 19 players and 4 mafia so it was 8 pr's 7 vt's and 4 mafia (neapolitan, 2x commuter, jailkeeper, goon)

I guess all the pr claims can be believable here.

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:40 pm
by Transcend
Macho is NU tho (I think??? Lapsa claimed it immediately) There wasn't any NU roles this time around...

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:43 pm
by Transcend
so if all prs are town and Snow is scum it's

2 cops/joat with voyeur and 2 other powers/vig/commuterizer/1sFN/Visitor vs. 2 goons/Tracker cop hybrid???/1-shot encryptor

To me this looks kinda like a weak mafia. But I also kinda think the mafia in GIF's game was weak. (The freaking goon of all roles survives multiple mislynches and wins the game).