congrats town for a hard fought game, and a knowing wink to my cunning scumteam;)
this could have been over much earlier if we had pushed through peta on D4 and taken dave/mena into 7p ELo as i was sure dave would mis-vote mena. as it happened, the unexpected rush onto SS caught us by surprise that i felt bussing was the safest option to ensure i'd at least win it in 3p if SS/S&M were ever eliminated.
town also had a lot of opportunities to crack the game wide open early. lilith wagon got to E-1 on D1, and it felt like half the town suspected me at one point over the first few days, though not simultaneously, which allowed us to slowly pick off my detractors. SS played a great town looking game for the first 4 days. it was perhaps fortuitous timing that when SS came under pressure, i was starting to look more town and build a game-winning alliance with infinity.
overall, the game had a fun balance of behavioural analysis, meta-reads and mechanical plays (props to SS for dreaming up the no-kill gambit N1 - this went a long way to clouding PoE and winning the game i feel). thanks to duckie for the smooth hosting job also.
also, sorry it seemed you weren't enjoying the game on D1! i invited you to have a fun time with ol' hoops, but as the gods would have it, i drew scum. i feel i probably would have come to your defence more if i was town, as it seemed quite obvious to me you were town - but given lilith and i were under pressure, it was simply too beneficial to quietly allow your wagon to go through.
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:56 am
by skitter30
Gj hoopla!
Also i will henceforth be ignoring people telling me to listen to vague mechanical reasons for clearing people who i scumread, because i've gotten burned on just this like three times recently
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:57 am
by Menalque
I’m just happy that I eventually was correct on every scum before they flipped, although in basically every case it was at the 11th hour and I would have struggled to follow through on hoopla if I’d actually still been alive
I think the fundamental error here was placing faith in “mechanics” over calling scum based on play. Notable that of the 3 voices who spoke most loudly about mechanics, 2 were scum and 1 was Dave who was perceived so widely as scum for where his mechanics-based play led him that he was speed wagoned to lose the game.
I disagree with skitter that the game was lost when lili wasn’t killed D2, if my memory of her position in dead thread is correct — but i do think that TGP was probably the misguillo that lost town the game. I think if we’d either misexecuted Dave or, ideally, hit any scum there, then town probably clears through the PoE and there’s potentially a less culpable looking misexec at the end which maybe prompts more reflection from those in mylo.
Overall, I think scum played well and deserved the win, I guess I’m slightly sad about it because I feel like there were just a number of small mistakes that if they’d gone differently would have led to the opposite outcome