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By the way, I think it's fairly likely that at least one of {Prana, Midnight} is scum.

Vote Count:

JPSalazar: 2

(vezokpiraka, xRECKONERx)

Fate: 1

(Glork)

Not Voting:

bill1148
bv310
Chronopie
Fate
inHimshallibe
JPSalazar
KDub
Midnight's Sorrow
Nero Cain
PranaDevil
quadz08
Zazier

Lynch:

8 votes.

Deadline:

August 8th - 3:00 PM EST

Glork wrote:I do love me some JP pressure.


But I'll

Vote: Fate

for now.

This is not the correct play, Glork.

Though I would love me some lynchin' of ANYONE on the dramonic wagon.

Really glork?

I wonder why.

Glork wrote:By the way, I think it's fairly likely that at least one of {Prana, Midnight} is scum.

Didn't you say that both were pro-town yesterday?

Thoughts:
Two Anti-Town factions
"Kicked to Death" sounds lame

What I want done:
JP needs an opinion on SOMEONE
I'd like many people to contribute more. This includes, but is not limited to: kdub, Chrono, Midnight, JP, Fate, inHim, vezok
I'd be in biggest support of lynching, in no particular order, bv, JP, or Midnight.

Sorry for my sudden absence last week. I thought I would have internet access but didn't. Thanks for letting me stay in the game Kise. I'll catch up within a day or so.

HEY IF ANYONE HAD ANY SCUMCLAIMS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD LAST NIGHT I'D LIKE TO KNOW

mmm... cake.

Reck wrote:HEY IF ANYONE HAD ANY SCUMCLAIMS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD LAST NIGHT I'D LIKE TO KNOW

^That would be useful
Unlikely, but useful.

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I don't get where Glork is coming from with his "Vote Fate, and one of MS and Prana are scum, tirade."

(Also, Fate is not the Lynch today.)

AGAIN!?!?
YOU HAVE GO TO BE KIDDING ME ARGRAGHRAGH.

Glork wrote: By the way, I think it's fairly likely that at least one of {Prana, Midnight} is scum.

Care to 'splain?

Reck wrote: Though I would love me some lynchin' of ANYONE on the dramonic wagon.

We know, Reck. You miss Dram. Get over it, please.

Bill wrote: I'd be in biggest support of lynching, in no particular order, bv, JP, or Midnight.

Care to splain bv and Midnight? I know you mentioned JP for his lack of, well, everything on D1.

My top scumpicks right now are Fate and Nero. JP needs to post.

quadz08 wrote: My top scumpicks right now are Fate and

Nero

. JP needs to post.

Nero wrote:And what information would we get? A role claim? A pro-town/scum response? Even then we'd have to decipher it.

Mostly, this post, and the discussion following. Though, after a re-read of your ISO, it seems that you've answered my concerns with this statement, so I suppose you can be scratched off my list.

With that relevation, VOTE: Fate.

No, quadz, you ignorant fuck.

The dramwagon was AWFUL and SCUM LADEN. We are lynching from the dram wagon today.

FATE PLZ GET IN HERE SO WE CAN CAPS LAWK ALLIANCE THE FUCK OUT OF THIS

PLZ

bill1148 wrote:

Glork wrote:By the way, I think it's fairly likely that at least one of {Prana, Midnight} is scum.

Didn't you say that both were pro-town yesterday?

Midnight, sure. Prana, not so much. I believe I gave him plus points early in my readthrough, but was rather "meh" about him by the end of it.

quadz08 wrote:

Glork wrote: By the way, I think it's fairly likely that at least one of {Prana, Midnight} is scum.

Care to 'splain?

Anybody in our QT should know that Elli was superduperduperprotown, which would have made him a VERY solid kill choice. It's not me or vezok (also due to QT interactions), and probably not KDub due to his continued absence. Process of elimination leaves Prana/Midnight.

This wagon is tech

Think I can support this.

Now, I don't know what happened in the QT, but I've yet to see anything scummy out of Prana. Midnight, on the other hand, has made over 40 posts, consisting of basically nothing. Look at his ISO; tell me if you see justification / opinions on anything. Inform me if I'm missing something.

Glork wrote:

quadz08 wrote:

Glork wrote: By the way, I think it's fairly likely that at least one of {Prana, Midnight} is scum.

Care to 'splain?

Anybody in our QT should know that Elli was superduperduperprotown, which would have made him a VERY solid kill choice. It's not me or vezok (also due to QT interactions), and probably not KDub due to his continued absence. Process of elimination leaves

Prana

/Midnight.

xRECKONERx wrote:

Vote: Prana

This wagon is

Not

tech

Apart from the fact that Elli is always a good kill for scum to make (Past experience), Iso-ing the both would lead me to conclude that MS is more likely scum than Prana.

VOTE: Midnight's Sorrow

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Nero Cain wrote:

quadz08 wrote: My top scumpicks right now are Fate and

Nero

. JP needs to post.

vote: Fate

Oh noes, vote the other person that someone is suspicious of. Scummy.

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Glork calls both MS and Prana pro-town yesterday, calls them both scummy today (due to PoE), and votes Fate? Then, and only then, after being called out on it, does he vote Prana.

LOL FUCKIN L.

FATE WAGON STARTED BY THE GUY WHO WAS DEAD WRONG YESTERDAY?

LOL IF ONE OF THOSE VOTES AREN'T SCUM I'LL SLAP A TURTLE

xRECKONERx wrote:HOLY SHIT WAIT.

Unvote; VOTE: quadz

You were already voting dram.
If you felt strongly about the case, you'd realize you were already voting him.
Instead, though, you're jumping on a fairly weak-ass case and attempting to get him lynched.
You unvoted then voted dram just to bandwagon! Seriously?

K all my fuckin games went to day at the same time soooooo ILL MAKE THIS QUICK AND TO THE POINT:

dramonic: 10 (KDub, vezokpiraka, Zazier, inHimshallbe, PranaDevil, Chronopie, Devotress, quadz08, Midnight's Sorrow, xRECKONERx)

SHOULDA HAPPENED YESTERDAY SORRY YEAH GOT SIDETRACKED BY GLORK.

BTW GLORK IS WRONG TWO DAYS IN A ROW HE MIGHT BE DUE FOR SOME ROPE.

Hey xRECK, most of the players were interested in how you reacted towards the Dram lynch in your QT. I'm also interested, but for a different reason. So could you tell us about it?
Talking about my neighbourhood, Nero, we still have something to discuss. For those who don't know what happened, I asked Nero to restate his reasons for voting Devo. He stated in our QT that it was due to Devo bandwagoning. But as we all know, Devo wasn't the only one. Though Nero only had a discussion with Devo about it. His explanation to this is that not all bandwagoners can be scum (which had a 'lol' attached to it) and that Devo is the only one who stated it was town play.
This explanation is lacking. First of all, Devo started with an explanation to show why bandwagoning isn't stupid in his opinion. And later he has a discussion with you about it as you were attacking him for it. So no, Devo stating it's town play isn't scummy as he got attacked for it.
Secondly, in one of your posts it does show that you think bandwagoning is scummy. Sure, not every bandwagoner has to be scum. But if you only look at one in detail, how do you find out whom is of the bandwagoners?

And last there is Bill. In our QT, I was nice enough to call him Bill as well and I asked him to respond to my posts. But after that, he was absent. So please do so now.

Fate wrote:

xRECKONERx wrote:HOLY SHIT WAIT.

Unvote; VOTE: quadz

You were already voting dram.
If you felt strongly about the case, you'd realize you were already voting him.
Instead, though, you're jumping on a fairly weak-ass case and attempting to get him lynched.
You unvoted then voted dram just to bandwagon! Seriously?

K all my fuckin games went to day at the same time soooooo ILL MAKE THIS QUICK AND TO THE POINT:

dramonic: 10 (KDub, vezokpiraka, Zazier, inHimshallbe, PranaDevil, Chronopie, Devotress, quadz08, Midnight's Sorrow, xRECKONERx)

Vote: quadz08

SHOULDA HAPPENED YESTERDAY SORRY YEAH GOT SIDETRACKED BY GLORK.

BTW GLORK IS WRONG TWO DAYS IN A ROW HE MIGHT BE DUE FOR SOME ROPE.

To respond to this: I was originally voting for you, Fate. Kise had me listed on the vote count as voting for Dram. I then unvoted and voted Dram, which made Kise realize his error.

So... why am I scum, again? Explain, please. And this time, without the "baseless accusations," hm?

xRECKONERx wrote:

ZazieR wrote: As you might remember, there was something else I wanted to talk with you about, xRECK. And now we can:

xRECK wrote:I'm defending dram because I don't think he's scum, I just think he has a weak case.

xRECK wrote:Dram, I think it was clearly a case of RVS

DON'T MAKE ME VOTE YOU I DON'T WANNA

Want to explain, xRECK?

Explain...what? I don't want to vote dram but he was pushing a weak case on a RVS vote.

Exactly my point. From your posts, I get the impression that supporting weak cases is scummy to you. So why is it that you're stating that there was scum on Dram's 'weak case-wagon', but that you 'defend' Dram, eventhough you didn't like his action?

xRECK wrote:

Zaz wrote:xRECK's newest attack against BV is wrong as well. Read again and you'll find out that he's not voting you based upon you not responding to posts with questions aimed at you. You are just trying to shift the attention elsewhere. For those interested in why I'm saying this:

Mod wrote:quadz08: 7 (inHimshallibe, Nautilius,

xRECKONERx

, Devotress, Midnight's Sorrow, Chronopie, bill1148)

xRECK wrote:Seriously. More bv310 votes would be appreciated.

Even you aren't voting BV, xRECK. Him asking Fate to vote BV isn't helping him either to look more town.

But I'm always READY to vote bv310. Like so:

Unvote; Vote: bv310

.

So the reason you weren't voting BV before being called out on it, is?

Glork wrote:

Zaz wrote:Nero needs to explain his vote against Devo. Because it seems to me that it comes down to disagreement about mafia theory and Devo asking only one player a question. And to both I’d like to know why that makes Devo scummy.

Suppose Player X and Player Y commit the same "scumtell." Player A makes a case against Player X for the scumtell, and there is discussion about X and yadda yadda yadda, X eventually gets lynched as town. Both Player Y and his scumtell fall largely off the radar, especially as the game continues (especially since today's MS meta involves a lot of forgetting about past cases and events), and Y never really gets attacked or suspected for having commited the same scumtell, which is just as legitimate as the case that A used to get X lynched.
There is a strong A-Y scum connection here. Though Nero didn't identify who specifically he felt Devo was favoring (and I can't yet either -- there are a lot of scummish lurkers in this game), I would assume that Nero feels that Devo is going to shine the lurker light on "SUPER POPULAR BANDWAGON QUADZ," try to finish off an already popular lynch, then forget about the whole lurker thing. At least, that's how I personally feel about it.

As pointed out, Nero had a different reason to vote Devo. But I'm glad to see this, because it means that you agree with me that Nero is scummy.

Zaz wrote:Zazie, please explain why your antagonization of Bill about his name is a protown decision. If it's alpha-male bullshit, please swallow your massive ego like a hot load and call him Bill. Thanks in advance.

You're calling me out, but not Bill? Seriously? I could have accepted it had you called out Bill that he should just respond to my posts as ignoring based upon how you're called is BS. I could have accepted it had you called me out on my ego, but also Bill. But just calling me out, while letting Bill do as he pleases, I cannot.
And no, it was to see how Bill would react as it's just scummy to ignore with such a reason.


REMINDER: Bill needs to respond to my posts. Definitly after post 371.


I'm not liking the way how Nero is trying to justify his vote. Twice, he's referring to Glork that Glork thinks the same way as he does about Devo.

The same goes for xRECK's post 385. Not being on a wagon is scummy, being on Dram's wagon is scummy. Besides, he knew deadline was coming and many votes were made during that timeframe.

@Chrono
Want to point out those 'certain similarities' between Dram in this game and Dram in SE I?

@Vezok
Wanna state some suspicions?
@Glork
You're stating Vezok looked town in the QT. Could you give more information on that?


I do not support a wagon of MS, Prana or Quadz.