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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:50 pm
by JasonWazza
he would have got doced N2 read your move properly

"Your target will die two nights after use unless doctor protected."

From my reading of that it means on either night.

And yeah i had the ability thief, town was powerful as fuck, but not knowing there is 3 scum in a 9 player game was shit.

I mean even a SK and 2 mafia i'd be happy but 3 mafia is just a bit iffy.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:03 pm
by Ms Marangal
I had assumed it was doctor protected the night I had used it, and that the following night didn't matter. I'm guessing TNE protected Zhero if that's the case though...

IDK Town was OP'd and Scum was kinda OP'd in the sense of amount of players, but our moves weren't as amazing as the ones you guys had. our only amazing move was Sho's Daykill, and redirect, and my poison. Sho wasn't to incredibly powerful (we had permission to C/P our moves into our CP)

speaking of... http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/NVB3fbtuvWZ

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:04 pm
by thenewearth
Oh god I told you guys we should have lynched bacde.

And no one listens to me ;w;

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:06 pm
by Ms Marangal
you also thought I was town TNE :P

and I was trying to PREVENT Bacde and Screw from being lynched. I could have safely done it because no one thought there was 2 scum remaining.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:08 pm
by thenewearth
Well if we lynched Bacde first rather than Sword...

I was planning on Blocking you then lynching sword next.

If that happened we would have one.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:09 pm
by JasonWazza
Scum with a daykill is like a venge scum almost. So OP as fuck in a 3 scum game

Day chat makes scum OP

There were so many reasons why scum were OP that outweigh then town OPness by far.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:11 pm
by Ms Marangal
Daykill had to be used in the thread though, we couldn't do it secretly like how you did with your day-lie detector. Chk thought it didn't make that much of a difference in the game... blame him >.>

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:12 pm
by JasonWazza
And fucking hell any LYLO situation before the daykill was used resulted in a loss that is fucked.

Mislynch day 1 and no protect = scum instant win

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:13 pm
by JasonWazza
HOLY FUCK THIS GAME WAS BROKEN BEYOND BELIEF

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:14 pm
by JasonWazza
This game could have been effectively over in the first day :(

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:16 pm
by Ms Marangal
yeah... Sho's said that as well I believe. before he was lynched anyway.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:16 pm
by thenewearth
Well we got shos on first day.

I sure wish Zhero vig'd SK rather than hyperion though ;w;

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:21 pm
by JasonWazza
If he hadn't have asked to not get lie detected he probably wouldn't have died so easily >.>

But seriously 6v3 is broken so much.

List of Mafia OP moves;
Poison kill
Day kill
Normal group kill
2 x 2 shot role block
1 shot redirect

Seriously not only is it possible for 3 kills in one day/night phase but on top of all that you have roleblocks and redirects.

Ms M how can you not think you guys were OP?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:24 pm
by JasonWazza
Also putting into account that a name claim would have likely got one townie insta-lynched (because scum would knowingly fake-claim)

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:26 pm
by JasonWazza
OMFG THEN THERE IS MS M'S WHOLE TEAM DOCTOR WHAT THE FUCK

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:28 pm
by thenewearth
lol Jason calm down bro.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:29 pm
by Ms Marangal
I mean, we were OP, but town was probably far more I think. I mean, there's the fact that the Inno. child is so damn dangerous, especially in a small game because a conf. town means everything. Omens had two shots of everything, town had two doc's ( I believe) and a lie detector. I'm also betting we had a few town flavor-cops or role-cops which could be used against us effectively during the mass-claim

we had two, two shot RB's? I only saw one... I had two shots of RB, one of us had two shots or RC and the other had two shots of Flavor cop.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:30 pm
by JasonWazza
Wrap - Two-shot Roleblock
You will stop your target's action; however, it only works if they were targeting you.

Sludge - Two-shot Roleblock
You will stop your target's night action.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:30 pm
by JasonWazza
Oh didn't read the description but it's still a roleblock.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:33 pm
by JasonWazza
Ms M

IC with lie detector: Sort of OP

3 player scum team: OP as fuck

Couple of townsided doctors; yeah kinda OP

Scum sided whole team doctor: OP as fuck

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:34 pm
by JasonWazza
Actually i will be fair, i was OP as fuck (and i was trying to fake being even more OP) but with what scum had there's nearly no reason they should have lost.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:36 pm
by JasonWazza
And Ms M has a Ability steal and could have picked up a Vig kill......

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:39 pm
by JasonWazza
@Chkflip;

IF you make this game again MAKE SURE TO GET PEOPLE TO REVIEW THAT IT IS BALANCED.

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:42 pm
by JasonWazza
Daykill
Mislynch
Nightkill

Instant scum win

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:45 pm
by sword_of_omens
Yeh idk... town was OP...IC with multi commute and lie detect. .not to mention town doc would guarantee you would be there at end game. .
And I had multi track, watch, voyeur, and RB...so anything could have gone anyway. ..

So 3 scum could seem as a balance.

We almost lynched MsM first and once the game continued it would have been obvious there was a third. ..
It was crazy role madness anyways. ..

I actually had fun in this game. ..
Feel better about my 1vs 1 although i Would have preferred we got rid of MsM first. .I did enjoy our arguments M :)
And bac pretty much self proclaimed as scum when he voted for me. ...