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Personally, my 4 targets of the day would be Ravenpaw (reasons listed above), Doctor whatever (pathetic contributions, from a hydra that's disgraceful), Amethyst (hasn't been scumhunting, and then calls me opportunistic without expanding on it at all), and Nero Cain (The meta comment from Monkey was really interesting, and Nero's reasoning for jumping on the Skull wagon was poor)
~Krabs

Desperado, town wont win many games if we allow slacking. Its cancer.

In the mean time we might be hunting down our own tail, getting rid of active posters just because they didnt have the same opinions or whatever.

I have seen Jebus as "browsing this thread" without posting, I dont understand how this is allowed.

Look, I dont want to get rid of an active poster. There are so many lurkers its mindboggling how town ever wins.

We need to send a message here.
We need to avoid "stupid" lynches.
We need to FORCE people into contribution.

In post 451, Svenskt Stål wrote:Desperado, town wont win many games if we allow slacking. Its cancer.

In the mean time we might be hunting down our own tail, getting rid of active posters just because they didnt have the same opinions or whatever.

I have seen Jebus as "browsing this thread" without posting, I dont understand how this is allowed.

I agree Sven. I actually voted Jebus for those reasons 5 pages before you, so trust me, we're on the same page. But I've also just died in a game with Jebus where he got lynched for this precise reason, and was town. This is not excusing his play, but it is meant to illustrate that no matter how much pressure you put on him (with words AND votes), he just doesn't care. My understanding from that game is that his meta is more of the same.

So with that said, I'm moving my vote to my #1 scum read over a pressure vote designed to force someone to talk. I think you should do the same.

Sven, the last you said you hadn't had time to focus in on ferret. If that is still the case, just ISO him, come back, and try to justify his actions as town. If you can do that convincingly, I'll jump back on Jebus with you.

I'd equate Jebus's play as sloppy, and anti-town, but not necessarily scummy as such, which is why he's not a suspect of mine. I can still understand why you guys are voting him though, we do need him to contribute somehow.
~Krabs

Agreed, my research on him (stated in thread) is that his lack of participation is role neutral.

But its so fucking selfish. Why sign up and not play? HOW IS THIS ALLOWED.

I have no objections to your post other than it knocking out my last bit of motivation.

I just dont understand this site. Scumming is very easy when you dont post an people dont give a fuck.

In post 438, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 436, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Just looked at their ISOs, was not impressed by scum reads on these lazy slots

how will you respond to a

Vote: Nero Cain

?

-BadCop

you're an idiot. Why am I scummy for finding the ferret and goat slots suspicious/scummy but not others?

i dunno LOL ¯\(°_o)/¯

I just wanted to see how you'd respond



you earned my vote though

lol @ everyone getting upset

-BadCop

In post 454, Desperado wrote:Sven, the last you said you hadn't had time to focus in on ferret. If that is still the case, just ISO him, come back, and try to justify his actions as town. If you can do that convincingly, I'll jump back on Jebus with you.

I like you for town alot in this short exchange.

It will have to wait thou. sleep time soon and got to get to work early, might not have my thoughts on ferret for 20 hours. But I will do it.

In post 457, GoodCopBadCop wrote:

In post 438, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 436, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Just looked at their ISOs, was not impressed by scum reads on these lazy slots

how will you respond to a

Vote: Nero Cain

?

-BadCop

you're an idiot. Why am I scummy for finding the ferret and goat slots suspicious/scummy but not others?

i dunno LOL ¯\(°_o)/¯

I just wanted to see how you'd respond

Unvote, Vote: ferret

you earned my vote though

lol @ everyone getting upset

-BadCop

Kay, so this sounds like scum crawling back for cover.

I just want to point out how bad GCBC have played here.

GCBC asks where to put vote <--- bad in itself
nero says ferret and someone else

GCBC iso´s them both in 4 minutes
GCBC vote nero for having bad reads

everyone is like "yo, wtf?"

GCBC votes ferret and claims that nero has earned his vote


So... GCBC went from thinking that ferret was a bad vote to a good vote in like... 20 minutes?
He also doesnt specify how nero earned his vote.


Man thats alot of shit.

In post 452, Svenskt Stål wrote:Look, I dont want to get rid of an active poster. There are so many lurkers its mindboggling how town ever wins.

We need to send a message here.
We need to avoid "stupid" lynches.
We need to FORCE people into contribution.

Do you have research to back up that Day 1 lurker lynches are more successfull than day 1 lynches on active players?

Well GCBC has found himself a place in my scum reads because of this.
~Krabs

In post 461, MonkeyMan576 wrote:

In post 452, Svenskt Stål wrote:Look, I dont want to get rid of an active poster. There are so many lurkers its mindboggling how town ever wins.

We need to send a message here.
We need to avoid "stupid" lynches.
We need to FORCE people into contribution.

Do you have research to back up that Day 1 lurker lynches are more successfull than day 1 lynches on active players?

What? How can you belive that is what I am sudgesting?

You are missing the point.

Its about sending a message that slacking gets you lynched. That will make people post. Increased posting equals increased difficulty to scum.

In post 463, Svenskt Stål wrote:

In post 461, MonkeyMan576 wrote:

In post 452, Svenskt Stål wrote:Look, I dont want to get rid of an active poster. There are so many lurkers its mindboggling how town ever wins.

We need to send a message here.
We need to avoid "stupid" lynches.
We need to FORCE people into contribution.

Do you have research to back up that Day 1 lurker lynches are more successfull than day 1 lynches on active players?

What? How can you belive that is what I am sudgesting?

You are missing the point.

Its about sending a message that slacking gets you lynched. That will make people post. Increased posting equals increased difficulty to scum.

I agree with this, but I think scummy active players need to be looked at with equal scruitiny. I don't want a day one mislynch just because someone forgot about the game, is my point.

Agreed. It is player dependant, some slack as scum specificly and some are active in both roles.

My thoughts on wagoning are that we have like 10 more days. Appraoching your vote as "this is who i want to kill" is in my opinion wrong. Your vote is a tool that you should use to improve your decision making. So while you guys are voting people you find scummy I am voting someone I want more from, and I fucking refuse to be disctated by some lazy ass selfish A_HOLE that signs up for a game he has no attention of playing, MULTIPLE TIMES.

So... like if this was must lynch, I agree, vote your strongest scum read... but its day 1, so I think you should approach voting as a tool for getting information.

Hope that made sense, I am hitting the hay now. Night all.

Jeff Hardy v Umaga, Steel Cage Match (Raw January 7th 2008)

So I get back from school, and I get a wagon on me. lolwut

What is being expected of me currently? There are so many posts when I get back from school that I get overwhelmed. I have no idea what questions people are trying to ask me, because they are just getting boggled up with all of the other (for the lack of a better term) "filler" posts.

Could someone make a post with the questions they would like me to answer, and I would be glad to comply.

In post 436, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Just looked at their ISOs, was not impressed by scum reads on these lazy slots

how will you respond to a

Vote: Nero Cain

?

-BadCop

if you're going for the split personality type play to justify mistakes, don't.

I want you to tell me why you love Ferrets?

@ferretlover: There's plenty of questions waiting for you. Scavenge through the thread.

@Doctor: What are your reads?

~Krabs (I nearly screwed up and put my forum name in the signature there)

Dammit Sven, I wish you didn't just go to sleep. I still need to do a catch up but your activity today has left me with a few questions. Mainly, all the points about Jebus lurking and not posting could be said for me as well. My first impression is that Jebus already had some heat so it is easier to go that route for the mislynch? And why lynch lurkers, someone else just said it but it really has correlation to someones alignment. Also seems a bit ironic that you are saying that lurkers should be lynched and here you are one of the most active players as late.

And to whomever was asking why I brought up Amethyst's meta, basically the past games I had played with them popped into my head as I was reading their post. Since I thought I had a good read on them I figured a stream of consciousness post was good to post, almost a form of note taking if you will.

Dango out.

In post 470, Nero Cain wrote:I want you to tell me why you love Ferrets?

'Cause they are epic. Don't underestimate the power of ferrets.

I have 8 pages to look through. Can you turds stop posting until I respond?

Well, I just C+F'd ('cause I have a life and can't read through all of the posts right now) the last 10 pages, and didn't see any questions pertaining to me. Could someone just have some questions that you want me to answer?