In post 416, rmpeacoc wrote:@jon Have you not noticed that no matter what I say, no matter how I explain myself, I get accused of being scum. Yes, I'm certain at least one of Pitoli/Flay/Xiao is scum now... it's hard to discern which one I think is scum for sure, because they're all ALL OVER me.
Have you noticed that you only ever have scum reads on people who question you? I'm struggling to find an example of you trying to paint someone as scum when they haven't already said they thought you were scummy.
Xiao was rude before and is getting extremely rude now again, he thinks that because I posted after him I was talking to only him 407 was not pointed at him.
I'm not being rude, I'm being blunt. And no, I realise that post was directed towards more than one person, but it doesn't make what I said any less true.
If you haven't noticed it's really hard to say ANYTHING when you get accused of being scum for everything you say.
It's not that hard, you can defend yourself as well as scum hunt in the same post. Did you ever think you just weren't doing a very good job of defending yourself?
how do you think Pitoli 'obviously' isn't convinced? She seems rather convinced to me.
I meant she's obviously not convinced you're town.
In post 441, Kattaze wrote:Urgh...this bandwagon sucks. He's a pretty useless player but I really doubt he's scum. This is just a policy lynch and nothing more because there isn't anything of substance against him. Why don't you all jump on jon's bandwagon because there's actually convincing reasons for him being scum. You won't look sheepish because I'll take all the blame if he flips town. Seriously people there is scum smiling right in your face and you are getting distracted by an inactive ghostship. Leave lortaku until tomorrow, lynch jon today. If I'm wrong about jon I will look so scummy that you'd be justified in lynching me tomorrow.
Jon is null for me, and him swinging either scum or town mostly depends on the lynch and NK. I have been looking at his posts, as well as others posts, but I'm not ready to start making cases yet.
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:01 am
by JerryArr
Sorry about not posting for awhile. I wanted to wait until either Lortaku posted something or we had a replacement, so I was in a weird place where I was kind of tunneled into Lor.
VOTE: rmpeacoc, for the weird pedantic stuff, and for (at least, seems to me) being kind of defeatist on the subject of his lynch. If I don't like what Mutley has to say for himself (and/or Lortaku), though, I wouldn't mind putting it on Mutley.
Back later. Hopefully Mutley will be more participatory.
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:30 pm
by notquitethere
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jon_h61
What do you think of RM's insistence that she should be mislynched:
In post 407, rmpeacoc wrote:I don't even want to give you all the satisfaction of having me fight back right now. Clearly you all think I'm scum, so vote me and lynch me. I'd rather be the ML now than have you lynch wrong on lylo.
Do you see how even if this (as I reckon) is a town mistake, is deeply unhelpful to town? I'm beginning to see Kattaze's argument that this is exactly what you were doing at the end of Day 1. Do you still think encouraging deliberate mislynch on yourself is a sane policy?
Mutley
What do you think about Lortaku's play? What do you think about the people on the Day 2 Lortaku wagon?
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:04 am
by Mutleyddmc
Sort of catching up to an extent now. Found it funny about the no lynch talk on first page and you had a NL. There's a few things I've seen that I'd like to quote but not yet so just a few thoughts.
Glad you came to your senses on hypoclaiming flay! When I first read that I was really hoping that didnt happen.
@notquite erm there's not a whole lot of his play to comment on. To the people on the wagon it's not surprising you are on day 2 with no kill or lynch. So I don't think we can analyse the quick wagon. It's basically day 1. We need flip info before going to much into wagon analysis
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:54 am
by Mutleyddmc
In post 347, rmpeacoc wrote:wow I didn't even realize there was no nk. i'm oblivious.
i actually agree with that. Also I think since there wasn't a nk we can count on lortaku being scum... that or mafia want us to think that, but then why give us a ml?
also if there is doctor or jk or both you should SUBTLY breadcrumb who you saved, don't just out it. kthanks
VOTE: lortaku
This post. The subtly breadcrumb but don't out it. So scum here. By telling someone to subtly breadcrumb means the mafia (you) will be looking for subtle bread crumbs. You should leave the PR to do what he wants he would have done something to make it clear in his death probably.
I'm sure there are many theories on last nights NK, I don't think any really need to be said until we have a flip.
I'm happy to lynch this post and get some info so
VOTE: rmpeacoc
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:21 am
by rmpeacoc
O yay lets lynch rmp.
Okay so for srs I'm really sick right now and so I'm going to say one thing.
Mutely this is a newbie game... so yeah it wouldn't surprise me if after n1 someone had been like 'I'm doc and I saved soandso' or 'i'm jk and I was on soandso'. I don't think there's anything wrong with helping.
I'm surprised that that one thing makes you think I'm scum over everything else pitoli suspects, and it makes me suspect you even more, so I'm leaving my vote. You still think you can push a lynch on me so you vote me. Its simple.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:34 am
by Mutleyddmc
Tbh we need a flip. Looking at this game there's 3 people I think the game could get a lot if info from there flips. Me you and flay. I have you as much scummier than flay so I'd rather your flip
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:06 am
by pitoli
In post 458, rmpeacoc wrote:I'm surprised that that one thing makes you think I'm scum over everything else pitoli suspects, and it makes me suspect you even more, so I'm leaving my vote. You still think you can push a lynch on me so you vote me. Its simple.
Yeah I found that quote weird too.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:18 am
by rmpeacoc
In post 459, Mutleyddmc wrote:Tbh we need a flip. Looking at this game there's 3 people I think the game could get a lot if info from there flips. Me you and flay. I have you as much scummier than flay so I'd rather your flip
i think just about any flip would give us information...
Anyway we are certainly not lynching Flay. That's a really bad idea.
I still think we should lynch you.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:23 am
by Mutleyddmc
Yes I didn't suggest flay as a viable lynch just his flip would give is info. It's me vs you for flip thanks. K everyone decide me or him
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:26 am
by rmpeacoc
read under my avatar again. its her...
anyway don't pressure them, let them decide. i'm sure town would like to get a better read on you before they lynch you.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:34 am
by pitoli
In post 462, Mutleyddmc wrote:Yes I didn't suggest flay as a viable lynch just his flip would give is info. It's me vs you for flip thanks. K everyone decide me or him
Can you give me your thoughts on everyone else?
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:38 am
by pitoli
and why we wouldn't get as much info from their lynch.
In post 462, Mutleyddmc wrote:Yes I didn't suggest flay as a viable lynch just his flip would give is info. It's me vs you for flip thanks. K everyone decide me or him
Can you give me your thoughts on everyone else?
xiao I have as town, but a flip of rm would confirm deny that
john null
Pitoli - null
notthere - town
kattaze - town
jerry - null
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:34 am
by rmpeacoc
wait wait how would my flip confirm or deny xiao? I want to hear this one.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:39 am
by Mutleyddmc
If you flip scum, xiao could be scum. If you flip town, xiao is town
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:55 am
by rmpeacoc
can you further explain? I'm not sure I believe that... why could he NOT be scum if I'm town.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:55 am
by rmpeacoc
EBWOP: why can't he be scum if I'm town.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:56 am
by Mutleyddmc
He can be but I highly doubt it
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:24 am
by pitoli
I highly doubt that Xiao/rmp's early interactions were that of two partners...