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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:56 am
by MattP
And before you say this isn't my general level of interest, I have a full time job and the mcats in two months. I work from 9 to five and ten study until 12am

I don't have the time to get upset about an especially stupid push on me. Maybe you should reevaluate the actual usefulness of meta arguments in the future since they fail you so consistently tierce.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:21 am
by Tierce
In post 448, MattP wrote:Also mental note made to never play in a game with tierce again
Doing something terribly stupid and blaming others for it? No. You could be explaining yourself and showing your thought process. But you used more time complaining about your level of interest than explaining any reads or your actions.

If you're Town, I'm incredibly disappointed (and by all means, stay out and don't play with me because I'll happily lynch this crap anytime). Your play has gotten progressively worse throughout the year, but I didn't think you were down to the whiny level of taking your toys and going home instead of fighting for your survival, or explaining the Town motivation behind your behaviors. THIS is your reaction to fucking up and doing something scummy in a trollish manner, and getting voted for it?

Child, please.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:21 am
by Zachrulez
In post 399, fferyllt wrote:Put your vote back on me. maybe you can save your scumbuddy.
If you feel this way certainly it makes sense to be voting for one of the two, like right now.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:30 am
by MattP
I completely recognize my play has gone down the shitter. I attribute it to not having drawn scum at all (this bars ongoing game discussion) for like EIGHT months

I don't even remember what scum DO, every time I draw town in a game now I literally curse inside my head and on top of that I am more stressed than ever with work and mcats. I'm not refusing to fight for my life because I'm being immature, I'm rolling my eyes thinking about how dreadful our last game was when you tunneled me and knowing I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with that shit right now. And that's not being a sore loser, because that on its own is me making a play. If you would like to disregard it or decide its scummy, fine

I have no choice but to keep joining games hoping for scum draws. I'm not going to be a bitch and replace out if I don't get it. But I'm discouraged and stressed and all alone with no friends in Chicago for two damn months working fifteen hours a day

So no I will not redo War is hell with you, especially when in my opinion you can be incredibly tunnely and dense

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:32 am
by Zachrulez
In post 453, MattP wrote:I completely recognize my play has gone down the shitter. I attribute it to not having drawn scum at all (this bars ongoing game discussion) for like EIGHT months

I don't even remember what scum DO, every time I draw town in a game now I literally curse inside my head and on top of that I am more stressed than ever with work and mcats. I'm not refusing to fight for my life because I'm being immature, I'm rolling my eyes thinking about how dreadful our last game was when you tunneled me and knowing I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with that shit right now. And that's not being a sore loser, because that on its own is me making a play. If you would like to disregard it or decide its scummy, fine

I have no choice but to keep joining games hoping for scum draws. I'm not going to be a bitch and replace out if I don't get it. But I'm discouraged and stressed and all alone with no friends in Chicago for two damn months working fifteen hours a day

So no I will not redo War is hell with you, especially when in my opinion you can be incredibly tunnely and dense
This is an actual argument you're making? Your play sucks because you haven't drawn scum? What the hell man?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:35 am
by Zachrulez
I'm in awe of the scale of this meltdown.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:37 am
by MattP
*slams head on desk*

Pedit: you're the other scum correct?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:38 am
by MattP
I haven't played scum in so long how the fuck am I supposed to remember how scum plays?

I can find fucking logs of me saying this within the past month in mafia chat of you want to be cartoonishly antagonist

Oh look I'm now officially getting angry so no longer looking at this thread

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:40 am
by MattP
Literally this shit upsets me to the point that it effects my work

I don't have the time to be upset about this shit, I'm not being a bad sport, I find it impossible to detach myself from games

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:41 am
by Zachrulez
In post 457, MattP wrote:
Oh look I'm now officially getting angry so no longer looking at this thread
That's at least the 2nd time you've said that now.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:43 am
by MattP
How does saying it more than once make it scummy or worth pointing out

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:44 am
by Tierce
I don't need that kind of argument, Matt. But you're still focusing on the wrong thing. I'm having trouble seeing that coming from Town with limited time who KNEW this game was going to have harsh deadlines. What's with all the smoke screen instead of being useful where you can?

Zach I'm lynching the hell out of you if he flips Town. Stop trying to make him look worse instead of trying to make him be useful.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:46 am
by Zachrulez
In post 461, Tierce wrote:I don't need that kind of argument, Matt. But you're still focusing on the wrong thing. I'm having trouble seeing that coming from Town with limited time who KNEW this game was going to have harsh deadlines. What's with all the smoke screen instead of being useful where you can?

Zach I'm lynching the hell out of you if he flips Town. Stop trying to make him look worse instead of trying to make him be useful.
At this point I'm blacklisting him if he flips town. This is just ridiculous.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:47 am
by Zachrulez
Hell the whole I'm too busy to play the game shtick is my go to argument as scum.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:49 am
by Tierce
It is ridiculous, yes. But this Zhar-ptitsa is already :Justice: enough for one game and I am STILL trying to understand his mindset. You're not; you're adding more wood to the fire, and it bothers me.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:50 am
by MattP
I'm trying to be useful! I'm trying to get fiery lynched. Why wasn't I useful before that? I was moving to Chicago and starting up my job, today is my fourth day of work

Pedit: why should I be blacklisted?

Pedit2: you just said you're going to blacklist me for doing what you do as scum so you're now an asshole or scum

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:53 am
by Zachrulez
In post 464, Tierce wrote:It is ridiculous, yes. But this Zhar-ptitsa is already :Justice: enough for one game and I am STILL trying to understand his mindset. You're not; you're adding more wood to the fire, and it bothers me.
If he's scum, I really don't care what his mindset is. If he's town I have reason to be upset, hence the reaction.

I don't think my reaction is unfair to him at all.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:56 am
by fferyllt
In post 452, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 399, fferyllt wrote:Put your vote back on me. maybe you can save your scumbuddy.
If you feel this way certainly it makes sense to be voting for one of the two, like right now.
I won't be chivvied into voting before I'm ready to vote.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:56 am
by Zachrulez
In post 465, MattP wrote:I'm trying to be useful! I'm trying to get fiery lynched. Why wasn't I useful before that? I was moving to Chicago and starting up my job, today is my fourth day of work

Pedit: why should I be blacklisted?
This post right here.
In post 415, MattP wrote:It wasn't faking anything, I was TROLLING you

I am EXPLICITLY saying it wasn't a fake derp, it's so blatantly fucking obvious I wouldn't mistake "L1" and "L-1" when L1 isn't even a thing since L stands for lynch

I don't give a FUCK if you know my role, that is my role, I was being snarky and fullclaiming for shits, now if you would like to believe that I just fake nameclaimed and roleclaimed then congrats
Means that if you're town you're not taking the game seriously, and that's just bullshit.
In post 465, MattP wrote:Pedit2: you just said you're going to blacklist me for doing what you do as scum so you're now an asshole or scum
Saying you're too busy to play is meant to excuse poor activity and contribution, that's a separate point and it's not something I'd blacklist you for. If you're town and it's valid reasoning however, you probably shouldn't have signed up in the first place if you didn't think you'd have sufficient time to play.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:57 am
by Zachrulez
In post 467, fferyllt wrote:
In post 452, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 399, fferyllt wrote:Put your vote back on me. maybe you can save your scumbuddy.
If you feel this way certainly it makes sense to be voting for one of the two, like right now.
I won't be chivvied into voting before I'm ready to vote.
I bring it up because I'm having trouble understanding your mindset. You're arguing from a position of apparent certainty not only in a scumread, but a pairing, but you don't have a vote to back it up. I don't understand that.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:00 am
by MattP
I had sufficient time to play if I had not been tunneled and it's not a time in thread thing its a "how this will effect me and my other time" thing

I would never say "I won't join this game because if all goes wrong I'll be a wreck and will fail my MCAT" because that doesn't cross my mind

And I OBVIOUSLY even if expressing frustration am still not giving up or why the fuck am i still posting? So your blacklist reasoning is nonsensical even if I was frustrated and said that it has NO reflection on what I post following it

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:03 am
by Zachrulez
Let's back this up a bit.

Why did you claim Matt?

Why when Tierce asked you why you moved to Antigen did you give her a dismissive response? It was a fair inquiry?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:03 am
by Zachrulez
Sorry the last sentence is not meant to have a question mark.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:05 am
by Zachrulez
Oh and Tierce, how reliably do you think you're able to read me based on meta? The answer to this is important to me.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:05 am
by Tierce
No, Matt, you are not trying to get ffery lynched. How could you be doing so when your pushes are weak and you don't show your reasoning? Not drawing scum doesn't mean you get worse at pushing Town to do what you want, it just makes you a potentially worse scumhunter. But you expect SEVEN people to echo and sheep you on fferyllt out of nothing, even when you're asked to do more about it? No, that's not a push for a lynch. I had three scum games in a row after not drawing scum since November, and I had forgotten nothing about efficiently pushing wagons since the last time I was scum. It didn't take me those scum games to realize I need to do SOMETHING to get my scumreads lynched, which is what you are saying has essentially happened to you. I don't doubt you feel your Towngame has decreased in quality due to a lack of scum counterpoint, I doubt that THIS would be affected to the point you do shitty plays and then utterly refuse to explain them or your reads so that they become useful should you be lynched and flip Town. You're having an unpragmatical approach that doesn't jive with your reduced time, and have yet to address my issues with what you've done.

Zach: when did you decide I am Town?