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I, uh, count two votes? Out of five people living?
I'm torn. I really can't see there being no doctor in this game, and Clara's play strikes me as much more scummy than PJ's, especially in recent days. I'm very uncomfortable lynching our only claimed Doc right now, especially seeing as how he probably saved our nightkill last night. Am I missing some key logic piece?
I'm torn. I really can't see there being no doctor in this game, and Clara's play strikes me as much more scummy than PJ's, especially in recent days. I'm very uncomfortable lynching our only claimed Doc right now, especially seeing as how he probably saved our nightkill last night. Am I missing some key logic piece?
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We have a resurector. Resurector + doctor = strong possiblety for brokennesss.Lostprophet wrote:I, uh, count two votes? Out of five people living?
I'm torn. I really can't see there being no doctor in this game, and Clara's play strikes me as much more scummy than PJ's, especially in recent days. I'm very uncomfortable lynching our only claimed Doc right now, especially seeing as how he probably saved our nightkill last night. Am I missing some key logic piece?
Surfs up dude.
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I get it.
Clara's lurking is still far, far more suspicious than anything PJ's done in my mind, except for his recent attacks on Fritz, which would be absolutely justifiable if we didn't know for sure that Fritz is clear. We do of course know that Fritz is clear, which makes that comment irrelevant. But nonetheless: I'm moving closer and closer to just voting him in the interest of moving the game along, which is never good at this stage in games.
Clara's lurking is still far, far more suspicious than anything PJ's done in my mind, except for his recent attacks on Fritz, which would be absolutely justifiable if we didn't know for sure that Fritz is clear. We do of course know that Fritz is clear, which makes that comment irrelevant. But nonetheless: I'm moving closer and closer to just voting him in the interest of moving the game along, which is never good at this stage in games.
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FRITZ, AFTER HOW MANY MISTAKES WE'VE MADE CONCERNING TRYING TO OUTGUESS THE MOD IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE SET-UPS, I'M FRANKLY NOT SWAYED BY POSSIBLE BROKENNESS (CONSIDERING I AM THE DOCTOR, SO THE ROLES MUST BALANCE OUT SOMEHOW).
AS IT IS, WE NEED TO HEAR A NUMBER OF THINGS.
MAZ MEDIAS, CAN YOU VERIFY IF YOU WERE ROLE-BLOCKED LAST NIGHT? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE A PM FROM STEVIE IF YOU ARE ROLE-BLOCKED, AND SINCE I DID NOT RECEIVE ONE, I KNOW THAT I WAS NOT ROLE-BLOCKED LAST NIGHT.
SECONDLY, CLARAMATA, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE WHETHER OR NOT BACDE EVER USED HIS "HACKING" ABILITY?
AND THIRDLY, CLARAMATA IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS YET TO CLAIM A ROLE YET. IT MIGHT HELP IS IN OUR DECISION (AND THERE IS REALLY NO POINT IN KEEPING ONE PERSON UNCLAIMED AT THIS POINT).
IN ANY CASE, LOSTPROPHET, ALTHOUGH I AGREE THAT FRITZLER WAS VERIFIED PRO-TOWN YESTERDAY, WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT ASSURANCE TODAY: HE MAY HAVE BEEN RECRUITED BY THE CULT (MAZ MEDIAS), DESPITE WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT ROLE-BLOCKING MAZ MEDIAS.
AS IT IS, WE NEED TO HEAR A NUMBER OF THINGS.
MAZ MEDIAS, CAN YOU VERIFY IF YOU WERE ROLE-BLOCKED LAST NIGHT? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE A PM FROM STEVIE IF YOU ARE ROLE-BLOCKED, AND SINCE I DID NOT RECEIVE ONE, I KNOW THAT I WAS NOT ROLE-BLOCKED LAST NIGHT.
SECONDLY, CLARAMATA, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE WHETHER OR NOT BACDE EVER USED HIS "HACKING" ABILITY?
AND THIRDLY, CLARAMATA IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS YET TO CLAIM A ROLE YET. IT MIGHT HELP IS IN OUR DECISION (AND THERE IS REALLY NO POINT IN KEEPING ONE PERSON UNCLAIMED AT THIS POINT).
IN ANY CASE, LOSTPROPHET, ALTHOUGH I AGREE THAT FRITZLER WAS VERIFIED PRO-TOWN YESTERDAY, WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT ASSURANCE TODAY: HE MAY HAVE BEEN RECRUITED BY THE CULT (MAZ MEDIAS), DESPITE WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT ROLE-BLOCKING MAZ MEDIAS.
"Logic? I call that flapdoodle."
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LP, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE PRO-TOWN, HOWEVER, I HONESTLY
WE KNOW FRITZ IS NOT "SCUM". I THINK MAZ MEDIAS WAS PRO-TOWN ORIGINALLY, BUT NOW IS PART OF THE CULT. I ALSO THINK THAT FRITLZER IS PART OF THAT CULT. I AM FAIRLY SURE THAT YOU, LP, ARE PRO-TOWN (YOU CANNOT BE CULT OR ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE LYNCHED ME BY NOW).
I THINK, THEREFORE, THAT CLARAMATA IS PROBABLY THE SERIAL KILLER: SHE HAS YET TO CLAIM ANYTHING, AND SHE HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AT LEAST ONE LYNCH: SHE MAY HAVE EVEN HAD BACDE SUBMIT A KILL INSTEAD OF HER SUBMITTING A KILL JUST IN CASE SHE WAS EVER ROLE-BLOCKED. AS IT IS, HOWEVER, I AM FAIRLY SURE THERE ARE TWO CULT MEMBERS: IF WE LYNCH SOMEBODY BESIDES A CULT MEMBER TODAY, THE CULT WINS. AS IT IS, WE CANNOT EVEN AFFORD TO LYNCH THE SK BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE CULT WINS.
HERE'S WHERE IT GETS WEIRD.
IF CLARAMATA IS THE SERIAL KILLER, SHE CANNOT AFFORD TO LYNCH ME, BECAUSE THAT WILL MEAN SHE LOSES TO THE CULT. HER BEST OPTION IS TO LYNCH FRITZLER, WHO IS VERY LIKELY PART OF THE CULT AND WHO MAY OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO ROLE-BLOCK HER.
IF CLARAMATA IS PRO-TOWN, SHE ALSO CANNOT AFFORD TO LYNCH ME, BECAUSE THAT WILL MEAN SHE LOSES TO THE CULT. AGAIN, HER BEST OPTION IS TO LYNCH FRITZLER.
IF CLARAMATA IS PART OF THE CULT, ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS PLACE A THIRD VOTE ON ME AND IT'S GAME OVER.
FRITZLER, AS PART OF THE CULT, WOULD OF COURSE GO AFTER ME ONCE AGAIN AFTER THE CULT GOT SO CLOSE TO LYNCHING ME YESTERDAY. BOTH FRITZLER AND MAZ MEDIAS ARE BASICALLY GOING TO BE WILLING TO LYNCH ANYBODY BESIDES THEMSELVES BECAUSE THAT WILL MEAN THE CULT WINS.
AND HERE'S THE KICKING ARGUMENT:
FRITZLER HAS VERIFIED THAT HE ROLE-BLOCKED MAZ MEDIAS LAST NIGHT. I TRADITIONALLY PROTECTED FRITZLER LAST NIGHT. WHERE HAS THE "HACKER" GONE, THEN?
I KNOW THIS IS "WIFOM", BUT IF I WERE REALLY SCUM, I HONESTLY
PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES: WHAT POSSIBLE MOTIVE WOULD A SERIAL KILLER (OR EVEN SCUM) HAVE FOR ATTEMPTING A NO-KILL THIS LATE IN THE GAME? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FRITZLER EITHER DIDN'T ROLE-BLOCK LAST NIGHT OR HAS INEFFECTIVE ROLE-BLOCKING POWERS, AND THAT CLARAMATA ATTEMPTED TO KILL FRITZLER LAST NIGHT BUT FAILED DUE TO MY PROTECTION.
I AM BECOMING MORE AND MORE POSITIVE THAT FRITZLER NEEDS TO GO TODAY. HE HAS ALREADY SCREWED THE TOWN OVER ONCE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
DO
THINK WE'RE DEALING WITH A SERIAL KILLER, AND NOT A MAFIA GROUP.WE KNOW FRITZ IS NOT "SCUM". I THINK MAZ MEDIAS WAS PRO-TOWN ORIGINALLY, BUT NOW IS PART OF THE CULT. I ALSO THINK THAT FRITLZER IS PART OF THAT CULT. I AM FAIRLY SURE THAT YOU, LP, ARE PRO-TOWN (YOU CANNOT BE CULT OR ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE LYNCHED ME BY NOW).
I THINK, THEREFORE, THAT CLARAMATA IS PROBABLY THE SERIAL KILLER: SHE HAS YET TO CLAIM ANYTHING, AND SHE HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AT LEAST ONE LYNCH: SHE MAY HAVE EVEN HAD BACDE SUBMIT A KILL INSTEAD OF HER SUBMITTING A KILL JUST IN CASE SHE WAS EVER ROLE-BLOCKED. AS IT IS, HOWEVER, I AM FAIRLY SURE THERE ARE TWO CULT MEMBERS: IF WE LYNCH SOMEBODY BESIDES A CULT MEMBER TODAY, THE CULT WINS. AS IT IS, WE CANNOT EVEN AFFORD TO LYNCH THE SK BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE CULT WINS.
HERE'S WHERE IT GETS WEIRD.
IF CLARAMATA IS THE SERIAL KILLER, SHE CANNOT AFFORD TO LYNCH ME, BECAUSE THAT WILL MEAN SHE LOSES TO THE CULT. HER BEST OPTION IS TO LYNCH FRITZLER, WHO IS VERY LIKELY PART OF THE CULT AND WHO MAY OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO ROLE-BLOCK HER.
IF CLARAMATA IS PRO-TOWN, SHE ALSO CANNOT AFFORD TO LYNCH ME, BECAUSE THAT WILL MEAN SHE LOSES TO THE CULT. AGAIN, HER BEST OPTION IS TO LYNCH FRITZLER.
IF CLARAMATA IS PART OF THE CULT, ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS PLACE A THIRD VOTE ON ME AND IT'S GAME OVER.
FRITZLER, AS PART OF THE CULT, WOULD OF COURSE GO AFTER ME ONCE AGAIN AFTER THE CULT GOT SO CLOSE TO LYNCHING ME YESTERDAY. BOTH FRITZLER AND MAZ MEDIAS ARE BASICALLY GOING TO BE WILLING TO LYNCH ANYBODY BESIDES THEMSELVES BECAUSE THAT WILL MEAN THE CULT WINS.
AND HERE'S THE KICKING ARGUMENT:
FRITZLER HAS VERIFIED THAT HE ROLE-BLOCKED MAZ MEDIAS LAST NIGHT. I TRADITIONALLY PROTECTED FRITZLER LAST NIGHT. WHERE HAS THE "HACKER" GONE, THEN?
I KNOW THIS IS "WIFOM", BUT IF I WERE REALLY SCUM, I HONESTLY
CANNOT
IMAGINE WHY I WOULD CHOOSE TO "NO KILL" LAST NIGHT, ESPECIALLY WHEN I COULD THEORETICALLY TARGET MAZ MEDIAS TO RID MYSELF OF THE CULT PROBLEM (KNOWING THAT FRITZLER WOULD ROLE-BLOCK MAZ).PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES: WHAT POSSIBLE MOTIVE WOULD A SERIAL KILLER (OR EVEN SCUM) HAVE FOR ATTEMPTING A NO-KILL THIS LATE IN THE GAME? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FRITZLER EITHER DIDN'T ROLE-BLOCK LAST NIGHT OR HAS INEFFECTIVE ROLE-BLOCKING POWERS, AND THAT CLARAMATA ATTEMPTED TO KILL FRITZLER LAST NIGHT BUT FAILED DUE TO MY PROTECTION.
I AM BECOMING MORE AND MORE POSITIVE THAT FRITZLER NEEDS TO GO TODAY. HE HAS ALREADY SCREWED THE TOWN OVER ONCE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
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*hits self in head*
Here's the thing, though: When could Fritz have been recruited? He was only rezzed N3; I doubt the cult was targeting a dead man. Night 4 is the ONLY possible night, since you protected him last night, and he was on the lynch of the recruiter yesterday. Since the cult was only 2 members yesterday (logically), it makes a great deal more sense for Maz to have been the other cult member, seeing as he defended Logic till the end and never voted for him. I think in this instance Fritz may just be a townie with wrong convictions; leaving Maz as the lone remaining cultist (or even just a townie if the cult disbanded, and in either case certainly unable to recruit himself) and Clara as our lone killing group.
Therefore, if you got through all of that, I think we can win (or effectively win) by lynching Clara today.
Therefore:
I am in fact. Why did the possibility of a SK never even cross my mind? In fact, it makes a great deal more sense, considering that we haven't hit a single scum yet. And that the person infiltrating the Chat was singular. It also goes a great deal toward explaining why your role was unrecruitable; if only the SK was unrecruitable, then the Cult would have a much larger advantage in a game this small. Finally, Clara's play makes a great deal of sense for a SK without a buddy to lean on.Me wrote:Am I missing some key logic piece?
Here's the thing, though: When could Fritz have been recruited? He was only rezzed N3; I doubt the cult was targeting a dead man. Night 4 is the ONLY possible night, since you protected him last night, and he was on the lynch of the recruiter yesterday. Since the cult was only 2 members yesterday (logically), it makes a great deal more sense for Maz to have been the other cult member, seeing as he defended Logic till the end and never voted for him. I think in this instance Fritz may just be a townie with wrong convictions; leaving Maz as the lone remaining cultist (or even just a townie if the cult disbanded, and in either case certainly unable to recruit himself) and Clara as our lone killing group.
Therefore, if you got through all of that, I think we can win (or effectively win) by lynching Clara today.
Therefore:
Vote: Claramata
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OKAY, WE AGREE ON THAT. HOWEVER, I THINK WE SHOULD LYNCH A CULT MEMBER TODAY.
CONSIDER: WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ALIVE. I AM NOT SURE IF FRITZLER IS PRO-TOWN OR CULT: IT IS PERFECTLY POSSIBLE HE IS INDEED A MISGUIDED TOWNIE AS YOU SAY. IF WE LYNCH CLARAMATA TODAY, IT STILL LEAVES MAZ MEDIAS ALIVE FOR TOMORROW, AND
IF WE LYNCH MAZ MEDIAS TODAY, WE WILL FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CULT DISBANDS OR IS STILL ALIVE. IF THE CULT IS DEAD, THEN THE SERIAL KILLER WILL STILL BE CLARAMATA, AND WE CAN STILL DO AWAY WITH HER TOMORROW AND WIN THE GAME. IF THE CULT DOES NOT DISBAND, THEN WE CAN BE FAIRLY SURE THE OTHER MEMBER IS FRITZLER, IN WHICH CASE THE GAME WILL PROBABLY BE OVER ANYWAYS.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE THE TOWN CAN WIN THIS GAME AT THIS POINT (IT MIGHT JUST BE CLARAMATA AGAINST THE CULT), BUT I THINK THE MORE SURE-FIRE WAY IS TO GET RID OF THE CULT (WHICH CAN HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS) OVER THE SK (WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY ONLY HAVE ONE MEMBER).
CLARAMATA, WHERE ARE YOU? WE NEED TO HEAR YOUR ROLE-CLAIM. I'M STILL TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS DAY IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY.
CONSIDER: WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ALIVE. I AM NOT SURE IF FRITZLER IS PRO-TOWN OR CULT: IT IS PERFECTLY POSSIBLE HE IS INDEED A MISGUIDED TOWNIE AS YOU SAY. IF WE LYNCH CLARAMATA TODAY, IT STILL LEAVES MAZ MEDIAS ALIVE FOR TOMORROW, AND
IF
FRITZ WAS RECRUITED LAST NIGHT, THE CULT WILL WIN 2 AGAINST 2 TOMORROW.IF WE LYNCH MAZ MEDIAS TODAY, WE WILL FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CULT DISBANDS OR IS STILL ALIVE. IF THE CULT IS DEAD, THEN THE SERIAL KILLER WILL STILL BE CLARAMATA, AND WE CAN STILL DO AWAY WITH HER TOMORROW AND WIN THE GAME. IF THE CULT DOES NOT DISBAND, THEN WE CAN BE FAIRLY SURE THE OTHER MEMBER IS FRITZLER, IN WHICH CASE THE GAME WILL PROBABLY BE OVER ANYWAYS.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE THE TOWN CAN WIN THIS GAME AT THIS POINT (IT MIGHT JUST BE CLARAMATA AGAINST THE CULT), BUT I THINK THE MORE SURE-FIRE WAY IS TO GET RID OF THE CULT (WHICH CAN HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS) OVER THE SK (WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY ONLY HAVE ONE MEMBER).
CLARAMATA, WHERE ARE YOU? WE NEED TO HEAR YOUR ROLE-CLAIM. I'M STILL TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS DAY IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY.
"Logic? I call that flapdoodle."
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Alright.. I
Logicticus recruited me the same night I resurrected Fritzler. On the day we lynched Logicticus, I was in fact a cultist, struggling to keep the recruiter alive.
I was pleasantly surprised to receive notification that night, that without Logicticus around to keep us convinced, I had thrown away the ways of the Conservative and reverted to a townie.
There's one little snag here, though:
Fritzler is also a former cultist, which means that PJ's cult protection is either A) ineffective or B) non-existant.
Fritzler did not block me last night, because at the time of submission of night actions, he was still a cultist with me. Presumably, there was an intentional one-night delay for Logicticus' influence to "fade".
One last thing...
I, as the senior cult member, was able to recruit last night, as I was not informed that I was abandoning my beliefs just yet. I targetted LostProphet and was told quite tersely that he simply didn't care, because he was busy.
Therefore, I believe that PJ and LP are mafia members together and that Claramata is a townie.
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a cultist. Or, at least.. used to be.Logicticus recruited me the same night I resurrected Fritzler. On the day we lynched Logicticus, I was in fact a cultist, struggling to keep the recruiter alive.
I was pleasantly surprised to receive notification that night, that without Logicticus around to keep us convinced, I had thrown away the ways of the Conservative and reverted to a townie.
There's one little snag here, though:
Fritzler is also a former cultist, which means that PJ's cult protection is either A) ineffective or B) non-existant.
Fritzler did not block me last night, because at the time of submission of night actions, he was still a cultist with me. Presumably, there was an intentional one-night delay for Logicticus' influence to "fade".
One last thing...
I, as the senior cult member, was able to recruit last night, as I was not informed that I was abandoning my beliefs just yet. I targetted LostProphet and was told quite tersely that he simply didn't care, because he was busy.
Therefore, I believe that PJ and LP are mafia members together and that Claramata is a townie.
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HA, NOW WE
WHAT YOU CLAIM IS IMPOSSIBLE.
FIRSTLY, I HAVE
SECONDLY, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT YESTERDAY, YOU, LOGICTICUS, AND FRITZLER WERE ALL PART OF THE CULT. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE, BECAUSE THERE WAS
THIRDLY, FRITZLER WOULD HAVE
FOURTHLY, FRITZLER HAS ALREADY CLAIMED THAT HE ROLE-BLOCKED YOU, MAZ MEDIAS, AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY. EITHER WAY,
I AM NOW POSITIVE THAT BOTH FRITZLER AND MAZ MEDIAS ARE PART OF HE CULT, AND I AM WILLING TO LYNCH EITHER.
KNOW
YOU'RE LYING, MAZ MEDIAS.WHAT YOU CLAIM IS IMPOSSIBLE.
FIRSTLY, I HAVE
NEVER
SEEN A GAME WHERE THE TOWN WAS NOT NOTIFIED WHEN THE CULT HAD DISBANDED. IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT YOU WOULD EVEN GET ONE LAST ATTEMPT AT CONVERSION IF THE CULT HAD DISBANDED. ALSO, YOU ARE CLEARLY USING MY OWN WORDS (FOR HOW I WAS NOT RECRUITED) TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE YOURSELF SOUND MORE BELIEVABLE: MY PM DID NOT
SAY THE WORDS THAT I WAS "TOO BUSY", BUT RATHER AN EQUIVALENT PHRASE, AS I HAD TO AVOID QUOTING THE MOD.SECONDLY, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT YESTERDAY, YOU, LOGICTICUS, AND FRITZLER WERE ALL PART OF THE CULT. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE, BECAUSE THERE WAS
6 PEOPLE ALIVE
, AND AS WE CAN CLEARLY READ FROM LOGICTICUS' PM, AS SOON AS THE CULT TAKES UP HALF THE TOWN, THE CULT WINS. THIRDLY, FRITZLER WOULD HAVE
NO
MOTIVE TO HAMMER LOGICTICUS YESTERDAY IF HE COULD FORCE A TIE AND THUS A NO-LYNCH (OR AT LEAST A LYNCH ON WHOEVER THE CULT PLACED THREE VOTES ON FIRST). THE CULT GAINS NOTHING FROM LYNCHING ITS OWN MEMBERS WHEN IT CAN FORCE A WIN.FOURTHLY, FRITZLER HAS ALREADY CLAIMED THAT HE ROLE-BLOCKED YOU, MAZ MEDIAS, AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY. EITHER WAY,
ONE OF YOU IS LYING
. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT LITTLE MOTTO THAT GOES "LYNCH ALL LIARS"? THERE IS A REASON THAT IS IN PLACE. TO CATCH CULTISTS LIKE YOU TWO WHO ARE CAUGHT UP IN YOUR OWN TANGLED WEBS.I AM NOW POSITIVE THAT BOTH FRITZLER AND MAZ MEDIAS ARE PART OF HE CULT, AND I AM WILLING TO LYNCH EITHER.
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AHA, SO YOU
AND, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE CLAIMING IS IMPOSSIBLE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THERE TO HAVE BEEN 3 CULT MEMBERS OUT OF 6 PLAYERS WITHOUT THE GAME ENDING.
WE'VE GOTTEN BOTH OF THEM TO ADMIT THEY'RE IN THE CULT NOW, PEOPLE. I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST LYNCHING FRITZLER TODAY, AS HE STILL HAS A ROLE-BLOCKING ABILITY WHICH COULD MESS WITH MY PROTECTIONS OR WHATEVER CLARAMATA'S ABILITY IS (ALTHOUGH I SUSPECT SHE CAN KILL). I WILL PROBABLY PROTECT FROM THE CULT TODAY AFTER LYNCHING FRITZLER. SINCE I CANNOT BE RECRUITED, IT IS ONLY NECESSARY FOR ME TO PROTECT ONE OF LOSTPROPHET OR CLARAMATA, WHICH MEANS MAZ WILL HAVE A SHOT AT AIMING FOR THE WRONG PERSON.
LYNCH FRITZ AND MAZ GUYS, WE'VE CAUGHT THEM BOTH LYING.
ARE
PART OF THE CULT.AND, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE CLAIMING IS IMPOSSIBLE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THERE TO HAVE BEEN 3 CULT MEMBERS OUT OF 6 PLAYERS WITHOUT THE GAME ENDING.
WE'VE GOTTEN BOTH OF THEM TO ADMIT THEY'RE IN THE CULT NOW, PEOPLE. I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST LYNCHING FRITZLER TODAY, AS HE STILL HAS A ROLE-BLOCKING ABILITY WHICH COULD MESS WITH MY PROTECTIONS OR WHATEVER CLARAMATA'S ABILITY IS (ALTHOUGH I SUSPECT SHE CAN KILL). I WILL PROBABLY PROTECT FROM THE CULT TODAY AFTER LYNCHING FRITZLER. SINCE I CANNOT BE RECRUITED, IT IS ONLY NECESSARY FOR ME TO PROTECT ONE OF LOSTPROPHET OR CLARAMATA, WHICH MEANS MAZ WILL HAVE A SHOT AT AIMING FOR THE WRONG PERSON.
LYNCH FRITZ AND MAZ GUYS, WE'VE CAUGHT THEM BOTH LYING.
"Logic? I call that flapdoodle."
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AH, AND WHAT'S MORE, IF BOTH OF YOU WERE TRULY DISBANDED, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD HAVE TOLD THE TOWN
INSTEAD, BOTH OF YOU ANGLED FOR A QUICK-LYNCH ON ME, HOPING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE ATTACK BEGUN YESTERDAY. BOTH OF YOUR STORIES ARE CHANGING TO FIT THE SITUATION, AND I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT LP AND CLARAMATA CAN SEE THAT AS WELL.
SINCE I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP BOTH OF MY PROTECTION POWERS, I CANNOT PLACE A VOTE YET, SO I ASK THAT ONE OF LP OR CLARAMATA
RIGHT OFF THE BAT
! IF IT WERE TRUE, THAT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION, AND YOU GAIN NOTHING BY NOT TELLING THE TOWN AS MUCH.INSTEAD, BOTH OF YOU ANGLED FOR A QUICK-LYNCH ON ME, HOPING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE ATTACK BEGUN YESTERDAY. BOTH OF YOUR STORIES ARE CHANGING TO FIT THE SITUATION, AND I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT LP AND CLARAMATA CAN SEE THAT AS WELL.
SINCE I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP BOTH OF MY PROTECTION POWERS, I CANNOT PLACE A VOTE YET, SO I ASK THAT ONE OF LP OR CLARAMATA
PLEASE
PLACE A VOTE ON FRITZLER, HE HAS JUST ADMITTED THAT IS PART OF THE CULT."Logic? I call that flapdoodle."
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Fritz that was LAST NIGHT. The recruiter was DEAD, and Maz claims that, as the "senior member" of the cult, he got one last recruitment (which I think he's making up entirely; I was never informed that he'd attempted to recruit me).
Your guys stories are so confused and twisted that I think it's entirely likely that you're both lying.
Your guys stories are so confused and twisted that I think it's entirely likely that you're both lying.
Vote: Fritzler
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Lostprophet, that's not true.Lostprophet wrote:Fritz that was LAST NIGHT. The recruiter was DEAD, and Maz claims that, as the "senior member" of the cult, he got one last recruitment (which I think he's making up entirely; I was never informed that he'd attempted to recruit me).
I got recruited night four. The leader didn't die until the day after. Therefore, petroleumjelly is lying.petroleumjelly wrote:NIGHT FOUR: I CULT PROTECTED FRITZLER (AGAIN, BECAUSE HE IS A CONFIRMED INNOCENT)
Surfs up dude.
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WRONG FRITZLER: IF YOU WERE RECRUITED NIGHT FOUR, YOU WOULD HAVE NO REASON TO LYNCH LOGICTICUS: IF YOU WERE TRULY PART OF THE CULT, YOU COULD HAVE FORCED A TWO WAY TIE OF THREE VOTES EACH, AND I KNOW YOU'RE EXPERIENCED ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT. YOU WERE RECRUITED LAST NIGHT, AND WE HAVE CAUGHT YOU IN THE LIE. I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU TRIED TO ROLE-BLOCK LAST NIGHT (IF ANYBODY: FOR ALL WE KNOW, RECRUITED PLAYERS LOSE THEIR ABILITIES) BUT I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT WAS MAZ MEDIAS. AND NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT LOSTPROPHET WAS NEVER AN ATTEMPTED RECRUIT (THUS FURTHER SHOWING HOW MAZ MEDIAS HAS BEEN LYING) I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO VOTE FOR YOU.
VOTE: FRITZLER
. LP, I THINK I GOTTA PROTECT YOU TONIGHT, I JUST NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE PROTECTION FROM THE CULT OR A TRADITIONAL KILLING. EITHER WAY, I'LL PROBABLY BE DEAD, SO GOOD LUCK TOMORROW."Logic? I call that flapdoodle."
Wrong, I thought I became townie after lynching him. Plus I always lynch my buddies. You don't play enough with me.petroleumjelly wrote:WRONG FRITZLER: IF YOU WERE RECRUITED NIGHT FOUR, YOU WOULD HAVE NO REASON TO LYNCH LOGICTICUS: IF YOU WERE TRULY PART OF THE CULT, YOU COULD HAVE FORCED A TWO WAY TIE OF THREE VOTES EACH, AND I KNOW YOU'RE EXPERIENCED ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT. YOU WERE RECRUITED LAST NIGHT, AND WE HAVE CAUGHT YOU IN THE LIE.
Surfs up dude.
Plus I forogt he was my leader.Fritzler wrote:Wrong, I thought I became townie after lynching him. Plus I always lynch my buddies. You don't play enough with me.petroleumjelly wrote:WRONG FRITZLER: IF YOU WERE RECRUITED NIGHT FOUR, YOU WOULD HAVE NO REASON TO LYNCH LOGICTICUS: IF YOU WERE TRULY PART OF THE CULT, YOU COULD HAVE FORCED A TWO WAY TIE OF THREE VOTES EACH, AND I KNOW YOU'RE EXPERIENCED ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT. YOU WERE RECRUITED LAST NIGHT, AND WE HAVE CAUGHT YOU IN THE LIE.
Surfs up dude.