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In post 424, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 288, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 149, AngryPidgeon wrote:
P-P-edit:

She really did call herself likely town for the plan

and then defend the plan by pointing to "experience". That is not town motivated.

Part in bold: Not true.
The rest: Don't agree.

Yes, she did:

In post 94, Amrun wrote:In fact, traditionally, such suggestions are made far more often by town

Grim is not commenting on my alignment but soft-agrees with Venmar's 'case' on me and implies I'm blatantly misrepping events in the thread. I'm basically down to lynch that with no questions asked right now.

I did comment on your alignment: you're my scumread for having a very poor case and trying to sell it as a good one.
And yes, you put 94 way out of context. This is statistics, not an Appeal to Emotion where someone asks you to townread her.
About that last thing: here's your chance. Nice to meet you.

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I take it you don't agree with Majiffy's decision either?

Yea. This is bullshit.

What is your read on the 4 candidates?

Grim town. Mollie,majiffy nulltown. SC null. I think i need to iso SC. Will be discussing this with amrun. But amrun doesn't seem very active in qt . Maybe our time zone don't match.

I don't have strong scum reads on anyone in this group.

Fuck you, Majiffy. This is fucking terrible.

From your group I pick piratemollie, from Sc's group I pick strangercoug.

Although at this point I'd be perfectly fine with Majiffy dying for being so anti-town that it could come from scum easily -- and picking on the newbie in this manner isn't attractive either.

Shit this is fucking terrible.

Now the whole town is forced to vote out of a pool we would not have chosen organically.
Fuck you, seriously.

In post 456, Amrun wrote:Although at this point I'd be perfectly fine with Majiffy dying for being so anti-town that it could come from scum easily

Yeah I thought of this too, can't say I disagree. Perhaps Majiffy is the correct lynch just for the possibility this is a scum gambit of (this is too dumb to be scum, theyll just blame it on my ego), and ensuring a town mislynch in the process.

The more I think about it the more the blood of righteousness flows through my veins.

VOTE: majiffy

Ugh I told myself I needed to cut back on games so I could start getting more sleep, start being more productive and ETC and then the Balto invitational starts and I check my inbox and this game snuck up on me from BLEH.

I really need to catchup all the way before I start spamming. I have no interest in voting Majffy and probably not mollie either.

In post 432, Majiffy wrote:

Challenge: Silver Snakes

Both are scum, so keep calm and vote on.

VOTE: Grimgroove

We agreed that we would come to a consensus on challenging and neither of us have been nominated. I'm personally fine with either of you going now, but since you have gone against the agreed upon plan, I think the more useful spot to put my vote is on you.

VOTE: Majiffy

In post 460, StrangerCoug wrote: I'm personally fine with either of you going now,

Could you clarify who you mean by "either of you", and the reasons for why you don't care about who goes?

If we all end up as townreads after all of this, I agree it's Majiffy's head that should be rolling. But I want to hear what he has to say for himself once he sobers up.

In post 460, StrangerCoug wrote:We agreed that we would come to a consensus on challenging and neither of us have been nominated. I'm personally fine with either of you going now, but since you have gone against the agreed upon plan, I think the more useful spot to put my vote is on you.

Could you take any less responsibility for your vote?

In post 461, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 460, StrangerCoug wrote: I'm personally fine with either of you going now,

Could you clarify who you mean by "either of you", and the reasons for why you don't care about who goes?

If we all end up as townreads after all of this, I agree it's Majiffy's head that should be rolling. But I want to hear what he has to say for himself once he sobers up.

The Blue Barracudas. pirate mollie is actually the one I'm more confident in (see #410 for my case), but Amrun explained—, it feels like, though it doesn't affect my read on her either way—why what Majiffy's doing is a bad idea for the town and helps scum. Reactions tell me the lack of cohesion has left a lot of people without good places for their votes—what I'm gathering is that it was the Purple Parrots, if anybody yet, that should have been challenged.

I could definitely see Majiffy doing this as scum.

Right now I don't want to lynch Mollie and probably not Grim either.

In post 462, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 460, StrangerCoug wrote:We agreed that we would come to a consensus on challenging and neither of us have been nominated. I'm personally fine with either of you going now, but since you have gone against the agreed upon plan, I think the more useful spot to put my vote is on you.

Could you take any less responsibility for your vote?

I taking responsibility. I don't have a scum read on my partner, and while I'll happily switch to pirate mollie, there aren't that many people who thinks he's scum right now. Which leaves Majiffy.

In post 463, StrangerCoug wrote:what I'm gathering is that it was the Purple Parrots, if anybody yet, that should have been challenged.

You're just repeating things people said. This quote was said by Venmar, and your vote and reasoning on Majiffy is repeating Amrun's thought process.
You're the least townish person of the group for me, and if I lynch anyone out of that group, it's you.

VOTE: StrangerCoug


And to anticipate responses like "but you said Majiffy iz best lynch", I said that to see if people(scum) will sheep that, and they indeed did. I am not lynching Majiffy, he's still town.

"What I'm gathering" was supposed to indicate that it was a summary of the reactions to the challenge. It was not supposed to reflect my opinion, and you have stopped acting like a fish out of water for awhile now. That I am effectively sheeping Amrun is conceded, however—she came up with the plan Majiffy went against in the first place.

I am not so sure about Majiffy town, wisdom.

In post 467, StrangerCoug wrote:"What I'm gathering" was supposed to indicate that it was a summary of the reactions to the challenge.

What summary of reactions?
Only Venmar said that he wanted us to be challenged instead.

EDIT: Um, I have no idea what you two below are talking about... yeah, that's the ticket!

^I'm voting StrangerCoug

jesus fucking christ

majiffy, I love you but that was a completely fucking idiotic thing to do. I get that you didn't want to go along with the plan cos you want to play the game your way but that was shitty to put us for a lynch without discussing it with me first. we are supposed to be a team and we are supposed to work together totally did not do that.

@ amrun

majiffy did not agree with the plan and said so. so there is no "we had a consensus agreement on it" cos we didn't. there were a few who agreed to it but not everybody had weighed in on it. and majiffy is town. I would put money on it. I am telling you that he freaking me in gchat cos he thought I referenced an ongoing game <-----that reaction can only come from a town mindset. just cos he did not go along with the plan does not make him scum and if you have played close to a 100 games than you should know that by now. also since when did I become a scum read of yours cos this is the first time I have heard about it. why aren't you asking me questions or interacting with me?

@ coug

so you think I am scum but are voting majiffy? lol. your vote looks opportunistic as fuck and this is like the third time you have ticked my scumdar. I shot down your 410 case and you even conceded some points. I think you are scummier than grim and you are most likely going to be where vote lands.

@ groovy kid

plz don't take me not responding to every single point in your post personally. will it help you to know that I am add? I have the attention span of a housefly it is one of the reasons why don't even bother reading set up designs cos I lack the ability to maintain focus. I prefer it when people ust give me tl;dr versions of it.

you asked if I have a large toolbox as scum and the answer is yes. I am sure someone is going to meta stalk me at some point but it came up in the last game that I was scum in; I have had 44 non town roles. not all of them were scum but the overwhelming majority of them were. when this next batch of games have completed I will have played somewhere around 150 games. the vast majority of them have been on the 7 other sites I used to play on. so yes I have a tool set for playing scum. the format was different as was the duration of the day rounds (day rounds last from 12 to 24 hours) and so far the transition has not been very successful lol. it is much easier to maintain a town appearance for only 12 or 24 hours than to try to maintain it for 3 weeks. so far it has been lynch lynch lynch but I think I did pretty good in the last game I was scum in. wis was in that game.

re: sticky reads vs. trolleytracking - the difference is that being sticky with reads requires you to stick to the original reasons as to why you thought someone was scum and ignore new info while trolleytracking is taking in new info but interpreting it in scummy ways.

I am feeling a million times better about wis cos I had the same reaction to coug as he did. venny's response was meh and I don't know what to think about ap. I am not entirely sure about amrun's but I think I am still leaning town on her but it is a shakier read cos this whole mollie is scum has come out of nowhere and she isn't doing anything with it. elyse looked natural but coug's completely sucked donkey balls.

I didn't say he agreed to the plan. I said what he did was fucking terrible and anti-town.

There were actions he could have taken that weren't the plan that I didn't find scummy. This wasn't one of them. It strong arms the town into doing something they don't want to do and presenting them with only one likely option who is a newbie and likely to crack under pressure no matter the alignment.

Even challenging someone who more people suspected (like AP's group) would have been marginally better.