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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:04 pm
by pirate mollie
could you plz tell me why you hate me?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:11 pm
by MattP
In post 447, Whiskers wrote:
In post 312, MattP wrote:
In post 300, shos wrote:@Matt, why are you voting me?
Well, because you're mafia
Wow. Much content. So quality.
Ty for choosing one miniscule, inconsequential, snarky post of mine to make a point.
In post 448, Whiskers wrote:
In post 438, MattP wrote:(or maybe you don't have daytalk! Gotta avoid "scumslipping" about mechanic knowledge or Whiskers may Mr. Literal me)
Says the guy who told me to wait for shos to post his scum role PM.

Or, wait, was that a joke? Sorry. Figured it must be another "reaction test".
Yes, I wasn't being literal with either point. You're very literal. We continue in this limbo. I don't see the point you're trying to make here.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:50 pm
by Whiskers
In post 451, MattP wrote:
In post 448, Whiskers wrote:
In post 438, MattP wrote:(or maybe you don't have daytalk! Gotta avoid "scumslipping" about mechanic knowledge or Whiskers may Mr. Literal me)
Says the guy who told me to wait for shos to post his scum role PM.

Or, wait, was that a joke? Sorry. Figured it must be another "reaction test".
Yes, I wasn't being literal with either point. You're very literal. We continue in this limbo. I don't see the point you're trying to make here.
Oh, I was just kind of taking up shos' cause from
Spoiler: here
In post 417, shos wrote:
In post 23, MattP wrote:If someone puts wisdom at l-1 I'm going to hammer

But actually
In post 418, Wisdom wrote:23 - reaction test
In post 419, shos wrote:seriously? you think that was a reaction test? that was such an obvious rvs lie,

In post 451, MattP wrote: Ty for choosing one miniscule, inconsequential, snarky post of mine to make a point.
Here, let me choose another minuscule, inconsequential, snarky post of yours.
In post 69, MattP wrote:Aw man pirate you couldn't have waited just a little longer?
Another
Spoiler:
In post 162, MattP wrote:
In post 161, Wisdom wrote:I could, if I felt he was scummier than mala.
Well I'm not gonna try to dissuade you, I'll let the duck quack for itself.
Another
In post 314, MattP wrote:
In post 313, Whiskers wrote:Also, does anybody want to remind me why shos is scum?
I think I would find it more helpful if you reminded me why he's not scum so that I had something concrete to reference in my response.
Another
In post 319, MattP wrote:
In post 317, Whiskers wrote:
In post 316, MattP wrote:Oh, well I think he sounds like scum. That's probably where we disagree. It's his melodrama of his tone and fixation on inconsequential, theoretical arguments more so than the quantity of his text during his catchup.
Erp-- you probably don't like me much here then either, do you?
Oh, I'm sorry for giving the impression that I don't like shos much. I think he's a very nice guy. He just drew scum. Regardless, I have no possible way of comparing you with shos in any form because you're both two unique lil snowflakes in a winter wonderland
Another
In post 380, MattP wrote:o no im out of popcorn how am i suposed 2 reed these posts lel
Another


In fact... most of your "useful" posts-- with some quality of content, you know-- are in discussions with Wisdom. In which one of your says something, and the other one can't understand it, you both make a few more posts and it amounts to nothing.
Or, you know, "nothing" to everybody except for you two, 'cause you guys are just getting loads and
loads
of reads and shit, out of inconsequential chit-chat made between the two of you.

So we have the Townleader scum, the active lurking scum (buddied), we just need to suss out the third, bussed scum, and we'll have a whole prospective scum-team.



Interestingly enough, I think the fact that Wisdom can't understand and has to dip his fingers into every post MattP makes, makes Wisdom more likely scum, than Matt-- but also that WisScum means MatScum is more likely. Like, MatScum is 25% and WisScum is 50%, but if Wisdom flips scum. MatScum 50%.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:53 pm
by Whiskers
In post 451, MattP wrote:Yes, I wasn't being literal with either point. You're very literal. We continue in this limbo. I don't see the point you're trying to make here.
Also, seriously? In a game based 100% on communication, you're going to try your very hardest to obfuscate the actual meaning of things? Fuck you, mate.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:08 pm
by Whiskers
In post 453, Whiskers wrote:
In post 451, MattP wrote:Yes, I wasn't being literal with either point. You're very literal. We continue in this limbo. I don't see the point you're trying to make here.
Also, seriously? In a game based 100% on communication, you're going to try your very hardest to obfuscate the actual meaning of things? Fuck you, mate.
"Oh, I wasn't being literal when I said you were too literal. What I actually meant was that shos is scum. But not literally. By that I meant he is mafia. But not literally. By that I meant is that his role in this game is of the
Mafia
faction. But not literally."


I-- what?

"What I actually meant is that, by using a complicated series of deeply meaningful exchanges with fellow player Wisdom (but not literally, he probably has a different name IRL), I believe I have found evidence to suggest that shos is, not literally, scum."


But, but, where have you had any meaningful exchanges with Wisdom? Where is the evidence you're using?!

"My, how literal!"

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:43 pm
by MattP
Now now, let's be polite about who we tell to fuck whom.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:45 pm
by ooba
Let's see - I don't have any reads that scream scum yet

Town

Wisdom - General posting and anybody who posts what I'm thinking always get's town points"Matt, why do you think Arc and Nacho are town?"
Mirari - Town. We're good at reading each other and play\posting looks very town.
Whiskers - Vibe - seems town.

Neutral+

MattP - Too quick to add Nacho, Arc as town but looks earnest in trying to get shos lynched

Neutral

Nachomamma8
Malakittens
penguin_alien
Desperado
Grimgroove - Unlikely to be scum with shos, I think
shos - I hated that he did a pbpA for 12 pages since it's something I like to do as scum - but other than that - have nothing oh him

Neutral-

ArcAngel9 - Needs to post. Also too many people have written her off as town. (without there being much to back it up)

pirate mollie
- Mollie's tone seems off - I have a town baseline and this is not it. But that's based off one game and Mala apparently has more experience on mollie's game so disregarding my meta knowledge for now
- I also didnt like the whiskers vote

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:59 pm
by Desperado
@ Mollie: Why are you hesitant to vote shos when he was intentionally playing scummy in Doctor mafia because he was the nurse? He said as much in thread. I also agree with Ooba, your Whiskers vote just looks like sour grapes to me. Who do you actually think is scum?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:20 pm
by shos
Well, an unexpectedly light day at work, so i can phonepost.

Mirari. You say my posts are filler. Quote me some of that filler, and iso matt. I do not see how that computes.

My push on wisdom - is light. Im voting wis because omg dat tunnel was incredibly without logic, as you can see with what whiskers posted. But i never PUSHED wisdom at all. I pushed you at the time, perhaps to some extent PA, but i only said anything against wisdom in like 2 posts after being overwhelmed by ill logic.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:23 pm
by shos
In post 444, Mirari wrote:
In post 442, shos wrote:also, please do not use 'you sound like scum'. it's been used by four people now.
1...2...3...4... Yup. That's how many people on your wagon. :D

I said your content posts were filler. I still don't understand why you are pushing for Wisdom. You and penguin are generally being useless with your votes. But, you do have earlier emphasis on the vote. She doesn't.

Matt, is it odd that a pseudo-bloc has formed this quickly?
Ooba, hun, you should probably change your vote.
You saying my vote is useless is in no way a reason to vote me. If my opinion isnt popular, that doesnt make me scum. Edpecially when the popular vote is on me myself. I stand on my own and state my opinion, its not like ww are nearing deadline.

Earlier emphasis on vote=??

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:30 pm
by MattP
Ah, them 2:30am hesitations/insecurities

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:38 pm
by shos
Huh?
Who/what are you talking about?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:45 pm
by MattP
In post 461, shos wrote:Huh?
Who/what are you talking about?
The irrational fear where you flip town and this entire time scum has been laughing their asses off. But it's ok, I think I was being too concrete about my read on you, and I think I'll try to give it a more objective read in the morning. [:

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:43 pm
by Wisdom
Starting to think mollie is right on whiskers

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:02 pm
by Grimgroove
Wisdom has the awful habit of scumreading whoever disagrees with him. To his benefit, it's also his biggest towntell.

Loved . This is someone I'll be able to talk to.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:22 pm
by Wisdom
Whiskers makes no sense, it has been pointed out, yet he continues his nonsense without caring. I am past the point where I think he's just VI.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:24 pm
by Wisdom
In post 452, Whiskers wrote:Wisdom can't understand and has to dip his fingers into every post MattP makes,
And he is now even using misreps to make conclusions. This is done by scum, every time.

Where the fuck did I not understand something Matt said, Whiskers?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:26 pm
by Wisdom
And Whiskers, you obviously missed (or more likely, ignored) the post where I explained how Matt's posts have helped me in this game and how they actually had content in them. You ignored it and you basically echoed shos in how he does not have any content.

Is there any reason I should believe you are town when something is explained, you ignore it, and say the same things all over again?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:29 pm
by Wisdom
UNVOTE:
VOTE: whiskers

@Matt
I think we might have whiskers-scum with shos-town here. Both scum works too.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:32 pm
by Wisdom
In post 280, Whiskers wrote:penguin is being more useful than most of you
I believe you never answered how penguin has been any useful.
Do it.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:37 pm
by Wisdom
In post 457, Desperado wrote:@ Mollie: Why are you hesitant to vote shos when he was intentionally playing scummy in Doctor mafia because he was the nurse? He said as much in thread. I also agree with Ooba, your Whiskers vote just looks like sour grapes to me. Who do you actually think is scum?
I also don't like Desperado at all. I expected much more from him than just this. He is not scumhunting.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:44 pm
by Wisdom
MattP - Town
ooba - Town
Malakittens - Town
Mirari - Town
pirate mollie - Town
Nachomamma8 - Town, he needs to come here and get involved though
ArcAngel9* - Maybe town, needs to post

Grimgroove - Maybe town

shos - Scum or Bad town who is getting WK'd
Desperado - Leaning scum
penguin_alien - Scum
Whiskers - Scum

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:45 pm
by Grimgroove
Can you go over the things that made you drop your scumread on Malakittens? I'm obviously missing something.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:48 pm
by Wisdom
Matt, Nacho and ooba correcting me, me realizing what Mala did with the wiki was actually town (I had ignored it at first), and Mala's posts becoming better.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:18 am
by Whiskers
In post 466, Wisdom wrote:
In post 452, Whiskers wrote:Wisdom can't understand and has to dip his fingers into every post MattP makes,
And he is now even using misreps to make conclusions. This is done by scum, every time.
Whoa, whoa, I thought we could only use meta, man. Only meta tells are effective in scumhunting. It is the
major scumhunting tool!