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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:22 pm
by Kagami
Bro, you've thrice complained that it would be impossible for scum not to know about the weak stuff, and have even said that it would be "gamebreakingly bad modding" for that to be so. If you're wrong, that's one hell of an insult to pitoli. I think it's unlikely that you'd be willing to tell the mod off like that, especially since you've modded yourself and not without difficulty. The only way you could be sure you're not seriously insulting pitoli is if you are scum and you were indeed told about the weak modifier.
VOTE: bro
fwiw, I think pasch is scum too~
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:22 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
This is fucking idiotic. Scum are pushing my wagon either in response to Pasch or BRO because the stupid town can't figure out who the scum are if scum danced in front of them wearing nothing.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:24 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
In post 450, Kagami wrote:Bro, you've thrice complained that it would be impossible for scum not to know about the weak stuff, and have even said that it would be "gamebreakingly bad modding" for that to be so. If you're wrong, that's one hell of an insult to pitoli. I think it's unlikely that you'd be willing to tell the mod off like that, especially since you've modded yourself and not without difficulty. The only way you could be sure you're not seriously insulting pitoli is if you are scum and you were indeed told about the weak modifier.
VOTE: bro
fwiw, I think pasch is scum too~
I am down with lynching BRO as well. Even if he is town, he is a fucktard so w/e.
VOTE: BROseidon
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:25 pm
by zMuffinMan
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:26 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Why are you unvoting?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:26 pm
by zMuffinMan
i don't think bro is town but there's too many bro votes atm and i'm not really reading anything so i dunno why there's too many bro votes atm
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:32 pm
by BROseidon
In post 450, Kagami wrote:Bro, you've thrice complained that it would be impossible for scum not to know about the weak stuff, and have even said that it would be "gamebreakingly bad modding" for that to be so. If you're wrong, that's one hell of an insult to pitoli. I think it's unlikely that you'd be willing to tell the mod off like that, especially since you've modded yourself and not without difficulty. The only way you could be sure you're not seriously insulting pitoli is if you are scum and you were indeed told about the weak modifier.
VOTE: bro
fwiw, I think pasch is scum too~
Where the fuck is this coming from.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:35 pm
by BROseidon
In post 447, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote: In post 443, BROseidon wrote:lol falcon, your answers are kind of shit and you're either being kind of dense or not following my logic, let me lay it out for you:
Nice discredit.
It can come from both town or scum, but he chose one interpretation and ran with it.
Then he followed up on it in a way to check that assumption, and came to the conclusion that his initial assumption was right. I'm not getting why you aren't following that sequence of positions; it's not like it's hard.
You're second point is actually worth responding to (grats on that
). However, he's likely working off the assumption that you'd look at his posts in some depth and try to figure out what he's gunning and, and try to figure out why town might interpret things a certain way. It's like my response to Muffin after he voted me; I looked back at what he was saying to try to gauge his trajectory. The fact that you didn't do the same and come to the same conclusion as him would set off alarm bells from a townDan, wouldn't it?
So yeah, can you give me more things that are worth my time? I'd appreciate it kthx.
That is dependent on the assumption that there is an ERROR in my statement where it isn't. Also, how does his "trajectory" on me make sense?
Sorry not sorry that you're heads stuck too far up your ass to see my logic.
And it's not dependent on their being an error. Everything in this game is relative. Ffery had a good quote in a dead thread about this.
His trajectory makes sense because I can track his thought process to see why he thinks that you're scum. Doesn't mean I agreed with him.
Until now.
I find it interesting that right after I push you there's suddenly people coming out of the woodwork to attack me.
VOTE: F-16
F-16/Kagami/x. I like Pie from earlier, but I'm not sure it makes sense with F-16 Kagami.
Muffin's town.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:36 pm
by BROseidon
In post 448, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote: In post 445, BROseidon wrote:Kaze, I was thinking that scum were splitting votes on me/F-16, but F-16's shit answers are making me question that.
HOW THE FUCK ARE MY RESPONSES SHIT? YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON. I EXPLAINED EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AND YOU ARE STILL NOT GETTING IT.
Your responses are shit b/c you're not tracking my reasoning, and then dancing around it.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:38 pm
by Plum
In post 450, Kagami wrote:Bro, you've thrice complained that it would be impossible for scum not to know about the weak stuff, and have even said that it would be "gamebreakingly bad modding" for that to be so. If you're wrong, that's one hell of an insult to pitoli. I think it's unlikely that you'd be willing to tell the mod off like that, especially since you've modded yourself and not without difficulty. The only way you could be sure you're not seriously insulting pitoli is if you are scum and you were indeed told about the weak modifier.
VOTE: bro
fwiw, I think pasch is scum too~
Kagami, please don't. Bro is almost certainly not a better vote than Pasch. Basides, your argument makes almost zero sense. Bro's point was that your belief depended on something that was very unlikely from a balance perspective. Why do you think Bro wouldn't take the small risk, if it was that, of insulting the Mod, if he genuinely believed something was unviable from a balance perspective and that it was relevant to Town assumptions about gamestate? Arrrrgh.
No. Bad. Very bad. Make it stop.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:41 pm
by BROseidon
Now re Kagami:
If I'm wrong, then pitoli can use that to improve her next game. I'm outspoken about what I think of game balance/modding; I've called multiple mods shit for stuff that's happened in there games (not sure if I ever said it to one of their faces, I definitely have openly bitched about LotR Mafia both to Empking and elsewhere on site). If pitoli didn't tell scum about weak, and it's a thing that could be reasonably used to find scum, that's a bad setup problem that got through a bunch of people.
And my modding issues had nothing to do with the setup. I modded a fucking open. I don't get why the fuck you'd bring this up here.
Nice try swooping in right as I'm on F-16. Gg no re.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:41 pm
by BROseidon
In post 459, Plum wrote: In post 450, Kagami wrote:Bro, you've thrice complained that it would be impossible for scum not to know about the weak stuff, and have even said that it would be "gamebreakingly bad modding" for that to be so. If you're wrong, that's one hell of an insult to pitoli. I think it's unlikely that you'd be willing to tell the mod off like that, especially since you've modded yourself and not without difficulty. The only way you could be sure you're not seriously insulting pitoli is if you are scum and you were indeed told about the weak modifier.
VOTE: bro
fwiw, I think pasch is scum too~
Kagami, please don't. Bro is almost certainly not a better vote than Pasch. Basides, your argument makes almost zero sense. Bro's point was that your belief depended on something that was very unlikely from a balance perspective. Why do you think Bro wouldn't take the small risk, if it was that, of insulting the Mod, if he genuinely believed something was unviable from a balance perspective and that it was relevant to Town assumptions about gamestate? Arrrrgh.
No. Bad. Very bad. Make it stop.
Kagami just tipped her hand.
She's either a lot less good that people have been giving her credit for, or she's scum trying to protect a buddy.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:43 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
In post 457, BROseidon wrote:Sorry not sorry that you're heads stuck too far up your ass to see my logic.
And it's not dependent on their being an error. Everything in this game is relative. Ffery had a good quote in a dead thread about this.
His trajectory makes sense because I can track his thought process to see why he thinks that you're scum. Doesn't mean I agreed with him.
Until now.
I find it interesting that right after I push you there's suddenly people coming out of the woodwork to attack me.
VOTE: F-16
F-16/Kagami/x. I like Pie from earlier, but I'm not sure it makes sense with F-16 Kagami.
Muffin's town.
You are completely evading my question and throwing around vague bullshit like "everything in the game is relative." There was one person that attacked you. Who are these "people" coming out of the woodwork? Plum was happy to say that your shitlord logic is making sense because for whatever reason it seems like town are buying into your arguments.
How is Muffin town? Because he unvoted you?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:45 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Why is it bad. He is spending a massive amount of time discrediting me and acting like he is King fucking BROseidon in his fuck-all-rationality castle sitting on his mighty throne acting like a fucktard.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:48 pm
by BROseidon
Given you/Kagami/X scum, muffin wouldn't unvote there.
People is really just Kagami. Still, the timing on that attack is, like, classic chainsaw.
And you just misrepped Plum's point.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:52 pm
by Kagami
In post 460, BROseidon wrote:Now re Kagami:
If I'm wrong, then pitoli can use that to improve her next game. I'm outspoken about what I think of game balance/modding; I've called multiple mods shit for stuff that's happened in there games (not sure if I ever said it to one of their faces, I definitely have openly bitched about LotR Mafia both to Empking and elsewhere on site). If pitoli didn't tell scum about weak, and it's a thing that could be reasonably used to find scum, that's a bad setup problem that got through a bunch of people.
And my modding issues had nothing to do with the setup. I modded a fucking open. I don't get why the fuck you'd bring this up here.
Nice try swooping in right as I'm on F-16. Gg no re.
I searched your posts and saw nothing that looked like this. In the LotR game, you point out that the balance was bad and that gollum was unkillable, you do not tell Empking that he is a terrible mod.
I said nothing bad about your modding, only that you should recognize it isn't easy. I don't get this reaction.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:53 pm
by BROseidon
What I'm saying is a balance point, not a modding point.
Implicit in calling the balance bad is saying that the mod/reviewers fucked up.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:56 pm
by Kagami
You can't possibly believe that saying someone's game is imbalanced carries the same connotation as telling them they are a terrible mod.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:58 pm
by BROseidon
Part of being a good mod is balancing a game, no?
Yeah, I'm harsher with my words here than I was to Emp or to Monkeyman (just checked, I did go off on him a bit for one of his mistakes in Calvin and Hobbes in the dead QT), but the point stands. What I'm saying is true, and if pitoli fucked that up, then she fucked up.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:06 pm
by Kagami
In post 459, Plum wrote:...
Kagami, please don't. Bro is almost certainly not a better vote than Pasch. Basides, your argument makes almost zero sense. Bro's point was that your belief depended on something that was very unlikely from a balance perspective. Why do you think Bro wouldn't take the small risk, if it was that, of insulting the Mod, if he genuinely believed something was unviable from a balance perspective and that it was relevant to Town assumptions about gamestate? Arrrrgh.
...
The risk isn't small from town perspective, though. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that scum didn't know about it, or they would have reacted to it in the thread. I only recently realized there's a flavor-based reason for the weak modifier, which requires knowledge of the manga, and that there's a strong chance there's an additional mechanic that scum would likely be told about, or I would persist in the belief that scum couldn't have been told about it.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:10 pm
by BROseidon
In post 469, Kagami wrote:The risk isn't small from town perspective, though. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that scum didn't know about it, or they would have reacted to it in the thread. I only recently realized there's a flavor-based reason for the weak modifier, which requires knowledge of the manga, and that there's a strong chance there's an additional mechanic that scum would likely be told about, or I would persist in the belief that scum couldn't have been told about it.
You're just being wrong at this point.
Standard scum response would be to feign ignorance. Claiming weak would have been akin to claiming miller/PGO, which is explicitly none-standard play.
I don't see what's so hard about this.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:12 pm
by BROseidon
This fits nicely into the narrative of scum-Kagami gambiting and trying to discredit me catching onto why something she hoped would be an auto-towntell isn't actually a town tell.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:14 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
In post 464, BROseidon wrote:Given you/Kagami/X scum, muffin wouldn't unvote there.
People is really just Kagami. Still, the timing on that attack is, like, classic chainsaw.
And you just misrepped Plum's point.
I didn't misrep anything. If you are town, you really need to work on your communication skills. I'll just tell you honestly, you are the most uncharismatic player I've ever had the misfortune to play with. You don't attempt to understand anyone's arguments. You just keep bullshitting like you know everything and go into vague generalities like "depends" and shut down discussion. You never really engaged anything I said calling my arguments shit or undermining them, not to mention discrediting me. All I am asking is for you to use your brain and actually understand what I am saying.
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:16 pm
by Kazekirimaru
These votes on Bro need to stop in a hurry. Goodness gracious.
Votecount, please~
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:17 pm
by Kagami
He only has 4, I think. Not cause for alarm even if muffin had stayed on.