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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:49 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
one more thing anti- I was completely ignoring you until you said, well why is no-one picking on me. So I took a look at your wiki, saw a lot of mafia wins (only looking at results column) and went oh my, dangerous and made such a statement and now here we are. (yes I know that sentence is gawd awful.)

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:51 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
In post 443, Antihero wrote:caled:

the reason this is so soul-suckingly infuriating is the nature of the jabs. i feel like the majority of the thrust is "OMG mastin has reads on people who didn't post or unexplained reads. burn the witch!" (not a scumtell) and "policy lynch because i don't like antihero or mastin or both" (which is thinly veiled behind "no good reads" or some arguments that's just transparently crap).

yes, there are scum on this wagon, but knowing there are town that are on this wagon for all the wrong reasons (wanting to "clean up" the thread) is taxing and it actually kind of hurts.
talk about setting up a strawman...

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:39 pm
by Fear
In post 433, Fear wrote:i dont make cases

i fuck scum
Perhaps this is
half
true ??????? Give me a day to catch up and bounce ideas off of him. I just moved in, which sucks because I like being around when RVS happens. Also this internet is shit.

Spoiler: irrelevant
64 bytes from 173.194.43.127: icmp_seq=4475 ttl=48 time=2157.090 ms (DUP!)

I've never seen DUP! in my life, the way the "!" was there, I thought it was a joke or something, but it's turned out to be pretty legit.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:14 pm
by Xayzeck
In post 305, TiphaineDeath wrote:As a rule I don't use meta Xayzeck, I find it a slippery slope.

People asking to be meta'ed also bugs me, though I'm not sure whether that's really a scumtell or just a personal peeve.

Xayzeck, go ahead and define omgus for me, I'm curious what you think it means.
because my scumgames are completely different from my towngames and i like being townread as town
exactly what I do whenever I get scumread because i'm always obvtown to myself
In post 306, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 187, Xayzeck wrote:this feels lazy
Why?
1. read the thread
2. sheep a rvs vote that actually could be used for a mislynch
3. don't explain why because you already voted and just say vote is good

at least sheep a case and not an rvs vote like yo
In post 311, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 303, Xayzeck wrote:except i do this more often as town than scum but this time I'm doing it as scum to look town
Do to the logical extension of this argument into a mafia game, never use this excuse again.
In post 312, PeregrineV wrote:This part depends. When you do this, do you catch a lot of town players? If so, don't do it.
overly aggressive if you ask me, of course it could just be because he's talking about me

but i can see pere being scum

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:16 pm
by Xayzeck
In post 328, RachMarie wrote:Though with Wis in the mix will definitely keep it leaning town for now till I see more.
wis hasn't been on in forever

i don't think there is a wis head yet

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:19 pm
by Xayzeck
In post 381, Doublade wrote:i am flattered

but in terms of buddying you sound even worse than xayzeck
this makes me sad

it was called being polite :(

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:25 pm
by Xayzeck
necro wagons still looks good

fear is probtown, i don't like how he's ignoring so much in the interaction with necro, but i think that's more of a towntell

i also like everyone on the necro wagon

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:44 pm
by RachMarie
Some of you need to settle down a tad


BTW Sharp we know you are Peacebringer you do not have to keep bringing it up. I have noticed you use your old account meta to justify how you play on THIS one. If you were going to do that why did you change your name?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:52 pm
by Bulbazak
Field Polarity:
Neutral


Vote CountShiny Hydreigon (0):
Doublade (0):
Saki (2): ZZZX, Dry-fit
ZZZX (0):
PeregrineV (0):
Spring Starflower (0):
Zdenek (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (1): Saki
The Most Curious Thing (1): PeregrineV
Nachomamma8 (0):
TSO (0):
MafiaSSK (0):
Natirasha (1): MafiaSSK
Talah (1): TheNecromancers
Xayzeck (3): The Most Curious Thing, Zdenek, TiphaineDeath
TheNecromancers (8): Jordan_Downey, Talah, Xayzeck, Natirasha, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Aegor, Doublade, Fear
Fear (0):
Jordan_Downey (2): Shiny Hydreigon, Spring Starflower
Aegor (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (3): Nachomamma8, TSO, RachMarie

It is day 1. With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day ends on Sunday, June 15 at 2:00am EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-06-15 02:00:00).

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:30 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
In post 457, RachMarie wrote:Some of you need to settle down a tad


BTW Sharp we know you are Peacebringer you do not have to keep bringing it up. I have noticed you use your old account meta to justify how you play on THIS one. If you were going to do that why did you change your name?
I was trying to do different when I alt slipped... and that put it in the crapper.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:31 pm
by TiphaineDeath
So here I am reading along, quietly minding my own business slowly growing my scumread on Fear as he joins in with beautiful quotes such as "I don't make cases, I fuck scum." And on sharpest as he continues to justify every post and remain relatively impervious to logic.

I was almost for a second going to drop off on Xayzeck. I was gonna drop right off. 453 was a hell of a townie post. Not so much a good player post, rather the opposite in fact, but i am not in the habit of lynching people because they irritate me.

And along comes post number 456 doing the following.
A) Letting us all know he still likes the wagon he's on.
B) Proclaiming Fear to be town.
C) Proclaiming everyone on the necro wagon to be town.

Lets look at that list of names for a moment shall we?
"Jordan_Downey, Talah, Xayzeck, Natirasha, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Aegor, Doublade, Fear"

Now I'm not going to claim I have scum reads on all of these players. Jordan-Talah-Nati-Aegor are all rather null to me.

Hell, dou seems a little derpy just now, but he comes off pretty town.

But Xayzeck-Fear-SKOT, I'd bet there are at least two scum in those three, and one of them is almost definitely Xayzeck. Leaning more in favor of Fear as his partner right now, SKOT might just be as he claims not really running on the same wavelength as the rest of us.

But my reads aren't the point, really my point is this. In what world does an even semi-competent player look at the one big wagon for the day and think there isn't a single scum on it? Honestly, If I for some miraculous reason had 7 townreads and one neutral read on the 8 players on the necro wagon, even if I thought necro was scum I would go over that eighth players iso with a fine toothed comb looking for the bussing scum I probably missed.

So please, Xayzeck, explain to me your eight townreads and your justification for them.

And everyone else, please vote Xayzeck while he flails his way through that.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:39 pm
by Xayzeck
Im town
I think someone is scum
Someone else thinks that same someone is scum
Therefore they must be town too

Lol

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:40 pm
by Xayzeck
I'll get home in a few hours and maybe ill give a serious response

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:40 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
TiPDeath- we played the same game I played with mastin in before. You were dead set I was scum there and were wrong. Maybe you can do better if town this time.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:53 pm
by TiphaineDeath
Come on Xay, was 461 sarcasm? Cause I don't think it was but it was so bad it sounded like it through the goddamned internet. Do you even know what the term bus means?

SKOT, I've been out for awhile and my memory was never the best, feel like throwing me a link to that game?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:57 pm
by Spring Starflower
VOTE: fear

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:30 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
In post 464, TiphaineDeath wrote:Come on Xay, was 461 sarcasm? Cause I don't think it was but it was so bad it sounded like it through the goddamned internet. Do you even know what the term bus means?

SKOT, I've been out for awhile and my memory was never the best, feel like throwing me a link to that game?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=30965

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:51 pm
by TiphaineDeath
Yeah I ended up on you there for completely different reasons than I am on you this game. That was me overreacting to perceived scumslips, kind of a classic TD thing, I gotta work on that :/.

Don't worry though, you're like third on my list, plenty of time for your theoretical towniness to shine through even if i was getting my way. Which given that the average scumhunting ability of people in this game appears to be unfavorably comparable to the scooby do squad is unlikely.

Seriously people, someone tell me why Xayzeck is town, what am I missing?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:04 pm
by Spring Starflower
In post 467, TiphaineDeath wrote:Seriously people, someone tell me why Xayzeck is town, what am I missing?
metal sonic calls this dilemma: "dumb or scum?"

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:15 pm
by TiphaineDeath
I'm reasonably certain it's dumb and scum actually.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:21 pm
by Xayzeck
Yeah I know what a bus is

I just don't think anyone is bussing?

And no that was legit what I was thinking when I said I liked those on necro wagon

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:37 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
In post 469, TiphaineDeath wrote:I'm reasonably certain it's dumb and scum actually.
only ones not really dumb at this point are scum...

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:40 pm
by Jordan_Downey
Not a big fan of attempts of meta being thrown about. It's especially not useful when it's the person themselves throwing around the meta. Such as xay, but honestly don't think it's an alignment indicator either way.

Not a fan of fear's activity. Accusing people of having no content when also not including content.

Spring Starflowers voting is horrible even if I can agree with the fear vote. Still not introducing anything.

Letting the other head catch up before we decide if we'll change a vote, as including the above I still agree with the Necro wagon at this time.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:41 pm
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
oh and xay's posts to me have a tone of trying to sort things out and sharing opinions. Nothing scummy about that at all.

TipDeath... please share elements of what you think about Necro's game. What about their reactions seem town to you?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:49 pm
by TiphaineDeath
Mastin's thought process is readily followable, he seems perfectly willing to engage, and has been giving reads I understand and often agree with. He hasn't yet done anything that particularly pinged my scumdar.

Antihero has been generaly antagonistic, frustrated and ragey, but still coherent. Reads very town to me.

But more than that their wagon is for total shit. You don't generally get shit wagons that do well on scum. But a shit wagon can do fine on town if it has scum backing it.