Mini 476: Pariah's GBH Mafia - Game Over!
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You forgot to mention again that if I get lynched there will be 2 deaths tonight.
If one of them is town. Town loses as well.
Basically if you lynch me the town will lose if either Bussy or UA kill a townie. And that's imo the most likely scenario.
If one of them is town. Town loses as well.
Basically if you lynch me the town will lose if either Bussy or UA kill a townie. And that's imo the most likely scenario.
Why did I become a teacher?
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
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The difference between Whome? and JaC is Whome? was a Zombie Cult Recruiter, who gave up once it was revealed he was a zombie, and volunteered to be lynched. JaC, on the other hand, sacrificed his win condition to reveal the SK. I don't see how Whome?'s martyrdom is more protown than JaC's.
AlyG: If he's not a joke account then what is he? He starts bandwagons on himself and insults other people.
Here is the way I am looking at it, from all those massive posts of JACs.
There is four ways this can go, if Bussy is an SK like we think.
One, I vote for Bussy and there is one mafiate left, and we still have a chance.
Two, I vote for Bussy and there's two Mafia's left, town loses.
I vote for one of the Mafiates, TWO KILLS HAPPEN, we lose.
Now there's the out there in the air idea that the two kills would target the same person, but I think its silly to count on that decision.
Therefore, I would still say that Bussy is the best decision. Since I'm such a silly hesitant to vote person, I'm giving everyone another day to change my mind, and I'll come back tomorrow with my final post.
There is four ways this can go, if Bussy is an SK like we think.
One, I vote for Bussy and there is one mafiate left, and we still have a chance.
Two, I vote for Bussy and there's two Mafia's left, town loses.
I vote for one of the Mafiates, TWO KILLS HAPPEN, we lose.
Now there's the out there in the air idea that the two kills would target the same person, but I think its silly to count on that decision.
Therefore, I would still say that Bussy is the best decision. Since I'm such a silly hesitant to vote person, I'm giving everyone another day to change my mind, and I'll come back tomorrow with my final post.
HurriKaty: *runs over Nightson with a mack truck*
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Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
Ok, I have to ask, if I were an SK, would I have told you who my targets were? I will admit, I had an alternate win condition. If I found the jello, I'd get an auto win that was announced either at my death or when the game was over. I did NOT find jello on Zindaras and since Billy was a burglar, I assumed he must have taken it, which is why I searched him. All I can think is that Zindaras gave the jello to someone else before I searched him - I don't know how things done the same night go in priority.
I think there are two mafiates and they are most probably UA and JaC.
I doubt my words will sway anyone to my side, but I definitely think I'm far less dangerous that other people.
I think there are two mafiates and they are most probably UA and JaC.
I doubt my words will sway anyone to my side, but I definitely think I'm far less dangerous that other people.
Ummmm
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Well, you were asked about a target list, so you had to give the namesBussy wrote:Ok, I have to ask, if I were an SK, would I have told you who my targets were? I will admit, I had an alternate win condition. If I found the jello, I'd get an auto win that was announced either at my death or when the game was over. I did NOT find jello on Zindaras and since Billy was a burglar, I assumed he must have taken it, which is why I searched him. All I can think is that Zindaras gave the jello to someone else before I searched him - I don't know how things done the same night go in priority.
About the N2-actions, that may be possible, but you must admit that is a very weird coincidence that your target at N1 was beat unconscious, your target N3 died and your target N2 (to which I gave the jello) came of without a scratch.
And I will have to ask you as well:
Why are you sure this was a 3-1-8 setup at the start?
The bartender's role is mafia recruit. So basically by saying me and UA are mafia you would give an ok to a 4-1-7 setup.
We both know that alko is pretty good in the creating of these games and he would balance things out.
We also know what roles the town had at the start. And they're not so good.
And this game is based on PK's mafia games, of which all 12-player games were 2-1-9.
So the logical conclusion is that we started with a 2-1-9 setup with a mafia recruit.
And here it's the question who the last mafiate is, myself or UA.
But we also very likely still have an SK, so if we lynch the wrong one between myself and UA today the town loses if a townie dies tonight.
So that's why I believe the best play is to get rid of the SK, and I think it is you.
And even if that happens town still loses, because then it would be a town + mafiate + SK.HurriKaty wrote:Now there's the out there in the air idea that the two kills would target the same person, but I think its silly to count on that decision.
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Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Alright, I've thought it over and over, even had a dream about this game last night that involved two of my friends that aren't even on this site ending up as a scum team. There are so many options in this game, and I can count all but one of the being bad, if things are what we think they are. Then there's the option that things AREN'T what we think they are, and we were fucked all along. I'm trying to do whats best, guys, and if I've made the complete wrong decision and we lose, I'm really, really, really sorry.
Vote: Bussy
HurriKaty: *runs over Nightson with a mack truck*
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Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
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You all gather around to string up poor Bussy because, well, it's just gonna be fun. So do it. And you string her up and lynch her, the poor girl, was nothing more than .
Oh wait, I guess that's a good thing. Night! Send in choices by Mon 10 PM PST!!
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Oh wait, I guess that's a good thing. Night! Send in choices by Mon 10 PM PST!!
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Lights in the museum are turned on. Everybody looks around, but then the lights start to flicker. They oscillate on and off more and more frequently to where it's almost blinding, until finally the lights burst and you are all engulfed in darkness. You hear a loud cry, a terrible scream. It's the pain and agony of somebody suffering a fate worse than death.
Somehow everybody magically find flashlights and turn them on to see
Somehow everybody magically find flashlights and turn them on to see
Dead Rikamaru
dead. He also appears to hold the mark of the devil on his body, though you have no idea what this means though. You also can't seem to determine neither his alignment nor what he's supposed to be.It is now Day 5. 3 alive, so 2 to lynch!
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What the...
Weird scene
Closing statements everyone?
Relatively early in the game she came with a claim as Cleric. A result that seemed confirmed by the findings of BillyTwilight at N3.
If she is scum I must heartily applaud her for a game very well played. Especially with the things she did last day (not going the obvious route against Bussy and waiting until everyone spoke)
Has stayed relatively hidden the entire game. Made a few posts throughout the game that followed some people and later claimed Boat Rocker.
I already expressed my feelings against him. We have had a normal doc already. A second, stronger, doc extra seems a bit too much imo.
On the other hand he didn't vote for me last day when he had the chance to kill another townie. Afraid for the SK as well? Or actually town?
Either way I'm losing.
I gave Bussy on a silver platter yesterday which means that I'm not going to win. The fact that Zindaras didn't die at N2 by Bussy seemingly confirms that I gave the Jello to him at N1. After all, Bussy did give her targets.
When I put everything together I'm leaning UA, but that devil's mark is bothering me. What if the cleric went to the dark side?
My item this day was a Pariah's Shield. I could use it to redirect a kill that would be going to me to another player. I targeted UltimaAvalon, because yesterday I was convinced he was the last mafiate
I'll wait with voting until at least you two also made a post with your feelings.
Weird scene
Closing statements everyone?
HurriKaty
Relatively early in the game she came with a claim as Cleric. A result that seemed confirmed by the findings of BillyTwilight at N3.
If she is scum I must heartily applaud her for a game very well played. Especially with the things she did last day (not going the obvious route against Bussy and waiting until everyone spoke)
UltimaAvalon
Has stayed relatively hidden the entire game. Made a few posts throughout the game that followed some people and later claimed Boat Rocker.
I already expressed my feelings against him. We have had a normal doc already. A second, stronger, doc extra seems a bit too much imo.
On the other hand he didn't vote for me last day when he had the chance to kill another townie. Afraid for the SK as well? Or actually town?
Just_a_cleric
Either way I'm losing.
I gave Bussy on a silver platter yesterday which means that I'm not going to win. The fact that Zindaras didn't die at N2 by Bussy seemingly confirms that I gave the Jello to him at N1. After all, Bussy did give her targets.
When I put everything together I'm leaning UA, but that devil's mark is bothering me. What if the cleric went to the dark side?
My item this day was a Pariah's Shield. I could use it to redirect a kill that would be going to me to another player. I targeted UltimaAvalon, because yesterday I was convinced he was the last mafiate
I'll wait with voting until at least you two also made a post with your feelings.
Why did I become a teacher?
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
I can assure you that though I did not go to the darkside, someone definately tried something last night.
I recieved a paper from the Museum Director asking me to join the mafia, but I automatically turned it down, leaving me to believe something in my role makes me unrecruitable or something.
Funnily enough, isn't our Museum Director DEAD?
I recieved a paper from the Museum Director asking me to join the mafia, but I automatically turned it down, leaving me to believe something in my role makes me unrecruitable or something.
Funnily enough, isn't our Museum Director DEAD?
HurriKaty: *runs over Nightson with a mack truck*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
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Yeah, Sacred was the director.
I don't know what the flavor surrouding that paper was, but could it perhaps be that the last mafiate just still had that letter from the director?
And can I have a small summary on myself and UA from you?
I don't know what the flavor surrouding that paper was, but could it perhaps be that the last mafiate just still had that letter from the director?
And can I have a small summary on myself and UA from you?
Why did I become a teacher?
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
UA has given me the vibe of very good lurkerscum. I say good, because he's managed to stay off the radar this long without anyone calling him out on being it.
You, well, I'm not actually sure. I know that's not a good thing to say in response to "tell me what you think of me" but its the truth.
I'd quite like a post by UA now. He hasn't been doing enough of that.
And when I'm telling you that, you know its true.
You, well, I'm not actually sure. I know that's not a good thing to say in response to "tell me what you think of me" but its the truth.
I'd quite like a post by UA now. He hasn't been doing enough of that.
And when I'm telling you that, you know its true.
HurriKaty: *runs over Nightson with a mack truck*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
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EBWOP:
A little research made me realize what might be going on.
Remember what I said last day about the bartender being the likely mafia recruit?
In MPFG II, the Museum Director got to send a letter to the Bartender asking to join the mafia. I have a hunch that this paper was meant for the bartender and that's why you automatically turned it down.
A little research made me realize what might be going on.
Remember what I said last day about the bartender being the likely mafia recruit?
In MPFG II, the Museum Director got to send a letter to the Bartender asking to join the mafia. I have a hunch that this paper was meant for the bartender and that's why you automatically turned it down.
Why did I become a teacher?
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
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I think it's pretty ironic how this game is ending.HurriKaty wrote:UA has given me the vibe of very good lurkerscum. I say good, because he's managed to stay off the radar this long without anyone calling him out on being it.
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I'd quite like a post by UA now. He hasn't been doing enough of that.
And when I'm telling you that, you know its true.
I heard you were known for lurking a fair bit before this game started.
I am known on the Wizards boards for lurking a lot (though that was mostly because I was in too many games at a time)
And now UA seems to be lurking.
UA, care to make a post about HK and myself?
It's been 2 days already and we haven't heard from you yet.
Why did I become a teacher?
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Yeah, I was known for that, but the difference is I decided to crawl out of my little hole and actually voice my opinion this game. I think I use to lurk more out of fear of being lynched for no reason more than anything else.
Thing is, UA has not posted since the beginning of the day, and I think the both of us are waiting on him now.
Thing is, UA has not posted since the beginning of the day, and I think the both of us are waiting on him now.
HurriKaty: *runs over Nightson with a mack truck*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
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In my early days I jumped in with 4-5 games at once.
That didn't really work out
Now I'm keeping it to a max of 3 and as you can see in this game I can cope with that pretty well.
And yeah, I think we're out of stuff to say until UA makes his post.
That didn't really work out
Now I'm keeping it to a max of 3 and as you can see in this game I can cope with that pretty well.
And yeah, I think we're out of stuff to say until UA makes his post.
Why did I become a teacher?
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
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Oh hai. Prod? Wha? Game? I'm here.
I'm actually a bit confused. I have no idea why its still day and not end-game. Two theories about that. Either Hurrikaty has some uber powerful role, or something about the fact that JaC can't win anymore has turned this into an HK vs UA game, with JaC as some third party person just standing there. I'm leaning more towards the second. Either way,
I'm actually a bit confused. I have no idea why its still day and not end-game. Two theories about that. Either Hurrikaty has some uber powerful role, or something about the fact that JaC can't win anymore has turned this into an HK vs UA game, with JaC as some third party person just standing there. I'm leaning more towards the second. Either way,
Vote: Hurrikaty
AlyG: If he's not a joke account then what is he? He starts bandwagons on himself and insults other people.
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I really didnt want to do this fast, but there's really nothing else to do. You semi lurk the whole game, you dont post for days, and the first thing you do is vote for someone who's been the most confirmed innocent for a couple days now. My last post, looking at it, was pretty useless, but I was just hoping I could put this off a little more as I tend to do.
The ball is in your court now, JaC. Whatever the outcome, game well played everyone.
Vote: UltimaAvalon
The ball is in your court now, JaC. Whatever the outcome, game well played everyone.
HurriKaty: *runs over Nightson with a mack truck*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
Jathan84: OWNED BITCH
Filiusnocte: *is run over*
Filiusnocte: *bites Katy anyway*
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I'm going to come out with everything and my conclusion will probably come in exactly this post. As of right now I don't know yet what I'll do.
I am the Director of the Museum.
I spoke the truth about the way my role acted, but not the targets.
At N2 I got the illusion and used it on Sacred to change her role/alignment to my own. After that I sent the order to have her killed.
At N3 I did get the contract, but I did not use it. I had UA use his role (his role changed every day, while mine changed every night) to investigate Bussy. He got a smaller cop role.
I was fairly sure Bussy was the SK though, but I must give props to Dead Rikamaru to almost unravel my plan. I must admit, there were some flaws in my plan at day 3 that PK would completely tear apart if he was still playing. At that point I guess I lucked out.
So we went down into last night with the SK gone, the zombies likely gone (unless Rikamaru was one after all), thus 4 players with 2 of them mafia.
Our win condition was formulated as 'There is no way the mafiates will not come out on top' (not quoted, this was the basic gist).
The fact that the game didn't end lead me to believe that UA may not be who he said he was. After all, he said to me he was the Janitor of the Museum, but there is no Janitor in the old games as far as I know.
Just now I thought of another possibility.
The night I investigated Bussy was also the night you (HK) asked to the gods about the zombies. It was also the night after PK said he wasn't zombified. The probability exists that you were zombified after all and came up with that question on the spot.
Which brings us to last night.
UA claimed to me to have gotten the Warlock ability (which gave a Devil's mark) and I got the letter to get another mafiate.
Due to me not reading that PM well enough I sent it to you. The PM mentioned that there was a certain person that had to receive it. And I said yesterday that it had to be the bartender. Yeah, I missed that initially
I found out about it only this day and as such made that little EBWOP in which I "guessed" (I knew it for sure) what might have happened.
Now I can see a number of possibilities:
1) You are not a zombie and do not have extra abilities.
This means UA isn't what he says he is. When I lynch you it is only a question if I can still win even though I sent in the kill for the mafia.
2) You are a zombie or another alignment.
I wasn't zombified, so either UA got zombified or the zombification missed.
2a) If UA got zombified we lynch you and UA either zombifies me or I kill him. Either way I still win with or without UA.
2b) If UA didn't get zombified we lynch you and we win.
3) You have another ability next to the cleric that prevents us from winning.
The original cleric got random answers and didn't do much. But then again, another big ability gained next to the fact that your role seemed to have gotten stronger seems a bit too out of the blue for me.
That would mean that either this lynch fails or I die (princess ability) or UA will get lynched. Tonight I/UA kill you and we win.
In the end I will probably go for
It was a pretty fun game though and I must applaud everyone for a game well played.
I am the Director of the Museum.
I spoke the truth about the way my role acted, but not the targets.
At N2 I got the illusion and used it on Sacred to change her role/alignment to my own. After that I sent the order to have her killed.
At N3 I did get the contract, but I did not use it. I had UA use his role (his role changed every day, while mine changed every night) to investigate Bussy. He got a smaller cop role.
I was fairly sure Bussy was the SK though, but I must give props to Dead Rikamaru to almost unravel my plan. I must admit, there were some flaws in my plan at day 3 that PK would completely tear apart if he was still playing. At that point I guess I lucked out.
So we went down into last night with the SK gone, the zombies likely gone (unless Rikamaru was one after all), thus 4 players with 2 of them mafia.
Our win condition was formulated as 'There is no way the mafiates will not come out on top' (not quoted, this was the basic gist).
The fact that the game didn't end lead me to believe that UA may not be who he said he was. After all, he said to me he was the Janitor of the Museum, but there is no Janitor in the old games as far as I know.
Just now I thought of another possibility.
The night I investigated Bussy was also the night you (HK) asked to the gods about the zombies. It was also the night after PK said he wasn't zombified. The probability exists that you were zombified after all and came up with that question on the spot.
Which brings us to last night.
UA claimed to me to have gotten the Warlock ability (which gave a Devil's mark) and I got the letter to get another mafiate.
Due to me not reading that PM well enough I sent it to you. The PM mentioned that there was a certain person that had to receive it. And I said yesterday that it had to be the bartender. Yeah, I missed that initially
I found out about it only this day and as such made that little EBWOP in which I "guessed" (I knew it for sure) what might have happened.
Now I can see a number of possibilities:
1) You are not a zombie and do not have extra abilities.
This means UA isn't what he says he is. When I lynch you it is only a question if I can still win even though I sent in the kill for the mafia.
2) You are a zombie or another alignment.
I wasn't zombified, so either UA got zombified or the zombification missed.
2a) If UA got zombified we lynch you and UA either zombifies me or I kill him. Either way I still win with or without UA.
2b) If UA didn't get zombified we lynch you and we win.
3) You have another ability next to the cleric that prevents us from winning.
The original cleric got random answers and didn't do much. But then again, another big ability gained next to the fact that your role seemed to have gotten stronger seems a bit too out of the blue for me.
That would mean that either this lynch fails or I die (princess ability) or UA will get lynched. Tonight I/UA kill you and we win.
In the end I will probably go for
Vote: HurriKaty
.It was a pretty fun game though and I must applaud everyone for a game well played.
Why did I become a teacher?
Because I like high school girls and stuff!
Because I like high school girls and stuff!