Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

[ZZZX]

yo bella! I dont believe I have what it takes to summarize everything but I have a mini catch up in my iso if it would help you. (it has most major posts I think/?)

[Bellaphant]

Hi letters (xxxz), sorry for missing you out.

(Disclaimer, I'm watching Eurovision and have had rum.)

My predecessor didn't do a huge amount and our reads are way off, apparently. Initial reads-list, having caught up:

Town:
Elu (do I have to answer your RQS?? )
WNI
Ika o.0


Nullish-Town
Froggie-Mollie
Yukari


Nulls
singer
grib


Null-ish/Scummy
hydra
letters
boo
plum

Will explain any of these when questioned. Also, am inclined to think the metal-nonsense means he's obvi-scum. Happy to vote here.

[Frogging Mollie]

hi bellaphant!

so you know ika, elusive and grib yeah?

can you walk me through how wni is sandwhitched between ika and elusive? like how did you come up with that.

also what are your thoughts on metal. you know the person in the lynch lead.

[Bellaphant]

Hi,

I don't really 'know' anyone, I'm hella new, but I'm in ongoing games with most of them. Also, that list isn't in any order, sorry, but I've liked some of wni's questioning of others. At the moment their thought process seems mostly logical, so they can be weak-town for now. Do you disagree? Why?

Metal looks like obvi-scum - my last sentence referred to him, but maybe I could've been clearer.

[Frogging Mollie]

Hi,

I don't really 'know' anyone, I'm hella new, but I'm in ongoing games with most of them. Also, that list isn't in any order, sorry, but I've liked some of wni's questioning of others. At the moment their thought process seems mostly logical, so they can be weak-town for now. Do you disagree? Why?

Metal looks like obvi-scum - my last sentence referred to him, but maybe I could've been clearer.

okay.

I find it kind of strange that you think you wni's posts somehow are "logical" yet somehow miss his hard defense of metal, I mean did you think those posts were particularly logical when you think metal is "obvscum"?

and out of all that has been posted those were the only 1s compared to all other players?

this grieves me

[White Night Imagination]

mollie

reads that aren't MS/me. go

[White Night Imagination]

while I agree MS' "replace out" looks really bad, the problem is that I think he might actually do something like that as town - along the lines of legitimately wanting to replace out, deciding not to, and then making up the excuse after the fact hoping he won't look like complete shit off it

survivalism != automatically scum for someone like him

I'm not saying he's town for it; just that *if* I scum read him here, it won't be for that. the only reason I've found potentially compelling for him being scum is still the way he immediately reacted to mollie/Yukari out the gate.

I haven't checked Yukari's meta yet. will do that after catching up.

[Metal Sonic]

ok outside of metal atm.

whats your reads on boo, any, yukari, plume?

VOTE: metal

im going with mollie on this.

WNI: do it plz i trust mollie a lot more then i trust myself and it would make the game 10 times easier

Don't trust Mollie ffs

Trust me more

[Metal Sonic]

hi guys

ketching up and i am up to here:

OK,

I am replacing out. Hope this is better for everyone.

Enjoy the game, folks.

Turns out I can't do that

I'm here to stay ._________________.

I asked 5 listmods

holy jesus mary and christ SINGER AND I KNOW MOST OF THE LIST MODS PERSONALLY PRETTY SURE THAT META DID NOT PM 5 LIST MODS AND GOT A RESPONSE WITHIN 10 MINUTES W/O THE LIST MODS TALKING TO ANK FIRST METAL IS LYIG HIS FUCKING ASS OFF ANY1 WHO IS TOWNREADING METAL AFTER THIS IS EITHER SCUM WITH METAL OR A FREAKING IDIOT

Lulz.. duh duuhhhdadededuddh adadedu dedob arkhueeu ehuehheuh

Was not tryin 2 make metal want to leave the game. MS had quite the reaction to just a bit of pressure.

It's not you. It's mollie. Ffs

ika stop being dumb for like 1 day or something

[Metal Sonic]

holy jesus mary and christ SINGER AND I KNOW MOST OF THE LIST MODS PERSONALLY PRETTY SURE THAT META DID NOT PM 5 LIST MODS AND GOT A RESPONSE WITHIN 10 MINUTES W/O THE LIST MODS TALKING TO ANK FIRST METAL IS LYIG HIS FUCKING ASS OFF ANY1 WHO IS TOWNREADING METAL AFTER THIS IS EITHER SCUM WITH METAL OR A FREAKING IDIOT

Bahahaha good call Mollie. This is why you're the expert head.

I'm actually in agreement with this.

I do agree that Yukari is not playing here the way they have in both newbie games (pointed out by Froggy, MS, and I believe WNI). Yukari is being strange and I don't like it because if she's town then it's just bizarre anti-town play that causes confusion and if she's scum well that makes life easier but I rarely believe scum to hand themselves on a platter. What I've been trying to figure out is that some of MS vs. Yukari feels fake or theater without actual emotion behind it, which I'm trying to parse through.

However, I'm still trying to fathom how 5 list mods would say anything about MS replacing out in such a short time period and without any reason. That lie alone is making dislike MS quite a lot even so far I haven't been able to check WNI's points about his playstyle. AtE also always annoys me at some level.

MS, link to your latest completed scum and town game.

Go to the team mafia forum, and view Twin Trap and Vanilla Nightless.

Town in twin trap, scum in nightless. Those were my attempts at best play in those gamss

[Metal Sonic]

I would have pounced on myself for the above request too, it sounds dodgy as fuck, but everything has a reason.

I'm pretty unsure as to my feelings on Mollie.



W.r.t yukari, I don't know how you can even consider that they are town when they have literally fuck-all except for garbage posts and being blatantly wrong their entire ISO? Like, even Mollie isn't doing fuck-all. The keyword is doing fuckall

I also agree. Therefore I am town.

[Metal Sonic]

Mollie u are giving scum room to hide. and calling me scum every time you play with me =\= expert at reading me. Also, with the white flag being won by scum (great job ika!) i am even more salty about nightless. Fuck that game, stop rubbing it

[Metal Sonic]

OK so evidence is clear here that yukari is scum. Even through meta which even players ambivalent or scumreading me (froggy) can objectively point out.


Ignore the huge distraction that is Mollie and shift ----------> to the game winning yukari wagon plz and ty

[Yukari]

Vote: zzzx

We don't believe the lies.

how about explain what is a lie? because I have been so truthful in all of my posts that I cant even find a lie even if I were to nitpick

Yukari's line of thought felt really full of bullshit, I hate bullshit.

also I have a guy feeling two town players would not interact in that way, I am pretty sure of it.

explain *why* it was full of bullshit

explain *why* you specifically think 2 town players wouldn't interact that way without regard to what they're doing individually

explain whether you will suddenly start believing MS is scum if Yukari gets lynched and flips town - bc if this is the case, this is nothing more than lining up lynches, and if it's not, your line of reasoning here doesn't make sense

I explained why its full of bullshit, it says he is doing something while he is clearly not.

The thing is Yukari, he did NOT as who the best scum hunter is, He asked who a person thought to be scum/town. that is a huge differnce.

also I think you did tell something about me sheeping you and not the other way around, but this call for sheeping gives me good feelings. In the metal we trust for now.

Andrius, tell us: who are the players in this game are you most familiar with? Who do you make it a higher priority to sort first? And how good/accurate are you at sorting those players?

To avoid this being rated as a spampost: frogger, how independent are you at playing the game and hunting scum? How confident are you at finding scum without handholding from mollie? Because she is setting a wrong example by calling me scum (not a bad example cause all mistake can be learned from) but either your slot is scum or she will go "oops oh well" at the end of the game and everyone will learn

the first one is something he knows about someone being able to read people and asks him for his read.

the 2nd he is asking one head of the hydra, he knows mollie and he asks the other head which is pretty.... normal?

You claim our case on MS was full of misrep and full of bs but the only thing you point out is that we said MS was trying to find the best scumhunters. You said he did not do that and we clearly showed you where he did. Where is the lot of misrep and bs you claim to have seen?

"The thing is Yukari, he did NOT as who the best scum hunter is, He asked who a person thought to be scum/town. that is a huge differnce."
No he clearly asked them: "And how good/accurate are you at sorting those players?" And, "how independent are you at playing the game and hunting scum? How confident are you at finding scum without handholding from mollie?"

We agree with the molly read on you, seems you fell for our honeypot. We made ourselves an easy target and you jumped at the chance to be on an easy wagon with ms as a backup lynch.

[Metal Sonic]

no scumbag

you fell for my honeypot


my honeypot is too effectively apparently >__________>

[Metal Sonic]

you dont fucking get to say that you were honeypotting when i was doing it first





although thanks for teaching me the correct term for the move that i do as my main repetoire

[Yukari]

no scumbag

you fell for my honeypot


my honeypot is too effectively apparently >__________>

Lol

[Metal Sonic]

IF metal happens to flip town (and I have srs doubts here) he is throwing his town meta to support a scum 1 cos I have not said 1 single antagonstic thing towards metal, elusive yes, metal no, I read him as scum, have made a case and voted him.

how fucking bad can this be by the way.

somehow it is my fault that you suck at telling the differencce between my scumgame and towngame? that means u are not an expert at reading me. thats all

[Metal Sonic]

yukari i read yor town meta. you are fun to play with and i liked your style in those newbie games.


but you're obvious scum here. lol. your play there and here are night and day. others said it, not me. its just confirmation.


mollie's self confirmation is fail cause its confirmation bias. but others confirm my read on you with new evidence. so thats the difference.

[Metal Sonic]

I am not budging from his lynch. cos either way we are lynching a) scum or at the very least bad town. and metal's town is not bad, he can actually be quite good when he wants to be.

you are teaching a wrong example to froggy.

how about this.

after i flip town, i want to play with froggy in a game without YOU inside


that sounds fair and non-rule breaking

[Metal Sonic]

Ika I'm not sold on metal.

Sell it to me if you even want me to think about it perhaps? What makes his play the same as say nless and not like DT?

DT?

im already sold cus when i watched nightless go on mollie had him peged from entracne and mollie is top town read so i trust her a lot more.

it took you a very long while to decide on MS scum so i take your idea for a grain right now. yes im being kinda dick to you but im telling you not only is he scum btu im not going to tolarate his massifve cap/bold/spam post that he has already done

Double trap


Also I understand your point but I don't really lynch town reads that easily. I CAN be wrong but prove that I am and I will follow. Its just that simple

theres no way to really prove it besides trust me and mollie?

also if we are going off double trap it would come and show how bad sonic is if anything.

how about what are your reads atm then as a change of pace

How fucking shit is this, by the way

[Yukari]

Promise we are town. We still have our eye on you as possible scum but would prefer to sort you out d2. If you are town, work with us for a moment. 3 scum in the game, look into who was on either bandwagon and why? we still see you as scummy, but we overplayed it a bit to get an early wagon going, and without being serious about the joke we can at least see you as possible town again. We have reasons for wanting to play riskier here and change up our style from our old game. Hell our last game started in june 2014, before then it was may and sep 2013. Surely you dont expect us to play the same way we did 1-2 years ago? Specially when we did not like the way we played or how the game turned out last time. Have explained most reasons already, but some info would best be hidden for now.

[Metal Sonic]

I actually liked the way you played in the newbies.

God damn it, the last time gg disengaged first too and I let go and he flipped scum. this is the same of my target disengaging first and look at me resist not unvoting yukari now.

I agree that meta reading you from games 1-2 years ago is not accurate. But elusive asked, so a very clear answer was given. Whether it is working evidence or not will be proven after your flip.


OK. You shall vote bookitty then. I will still keep my vote on you.

[Yukari]

ZZZX, Hydrangra, and ika. We suspect at least 1 or 2 scum among them.

[Yukari]

Will work on doing individual iso on them and boo, but like our vote where it is right now.