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It looks town driven. It looks like water flowing downhill. I'm meh.

Will hammer in a few hours. Would like to hear from Starbuck and Nacho before deadline.

Would be awesome to hear from ASP. I'm not optimistic.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:Starbuck? What do you think is going on?

Sometimes you have to take the preservation of the town into your own hands and stop an opportunistic wagon yourself.

So among my abilities:

I can pair with another person at night. We become lovers, and we share a 1-shot BP
I can send in messages at night to be revealed upon my death. I don't see how that's a great ability, but I have it.
My flavor is Pete from Harvest Moon.

More killing roles? What a game.
Is the loverizer one-shot or no? Are both players informed?

↑ Knuckles wrote:A Simple Plan - I thought that his initial vote for random midget while expressing that he didn't like breaking the games was pretty town because it's a ballsy as shit claim to make at the beginning of the game (game is broken, this player is scum, what we did to make the game broken is stupid). The thing that prevents this read from becoming a full town read is that he later unvoted for reasons I'm not really understanding; if he can explain this satisfactorily, will upgrade this.

ASP, can you explain why you unvoted randomidget?

↑ Vedith wrote:I'll vote Random or Knuckles today.
Both are scum for me. I don't understand why the town are being so blind here...

The fact that he didn't believe Nos's role but yet didn't question my role of giving people BP vests? He went for an easy target with a "Whoops, sorry!" response.

It's funny that as soon as I start reading again you've already backed off this.
Why?

↑ Xtoxm wrote:Nacho, do you have other abilities than your bomb? Details are not required, just a simple yes/no.

No.

↑ Starbuck wrote:it concerns me that he has been the loudest voice for an ASP lynch from the start. I'm slightly worried that he could have gotten saddled with a lazy scumpartner, and is doing his best to bus/distance.

I doubt scum is going to do too much distancing; in a gamestate that is this stagnant, there's really no reason to bus.

↑ Aj The Epic wrote:Lastly, bask in the glory of Xtoxm saying Starbuck's post isn't terrible probably SOLELY off the fact starbuck unvoted him.

Maybe. Probably not.

↑ Knuckles wrote:It's funny that as soon as I start reading again you've already backed off this.
Why?

Read my posts. I need to be on the lynch wagon.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:Nacho/MS have you played some games with most of the player list?

Dongempire/Davesto are the only players completely foreign to me.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:

↑ grapes wrote:SoS, could you go into your thoughts on starbuck? I recall you had some suspicions there but don't remember if you elaborated.

I had her as pretty null and I wanted to know the basis of Nacho's town read.

I'm a little surprised how that developed.

What in particular surprises you?

↑ Starbuck wrote:I do think it was foolish of Knuckles to use their dayvig on Nosferatu. There were much better options.

Didn't see them before. In retrospect, not really kicking myself over the shot all that much. Took a risk; didn't pay off.
In general, in a game state where wagons are not being driven but need to be driven, I'm much more amendable to voting anyone and pushing until a towntell; the only time when I trust townleans or anything beyond "decently confident town" is when enough people are engaged where the "decently confident town reads" are there because I can spend time sorting through their posts. This game isn't like that.

↑ Aj The Epic wrote:What? I mean, I'm being honest. xtoxm has literally no other reason to think the posts turned around other than starbuck hopped off his wagon.

I thought the posts turned around and I didn't think it was because of the unvote.
So... no.

Eh. Actually, I probably have too many townreads, will hammer unless ASP decides to answer my question soonish.

I think Pepto is a decent choice for scum #2 and would whole-heartedly endorse his shot tomorrow. If ASP and Pepto are both dead by the morning, will be heartily pushing an AJ lynch. If not, will be heartily pushing a Pepto lynch.

↑ Knuckles wrote:

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:Nacho/MS have you played some games with most of the player list?

Dongempire/Davesto are the only players completely foreign to me.

The only players I've played with are you/ms and Aj. I was wondering how much credence to put on your reads.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:

↑ grapes wrote:SoS, could you go into your thoughts on starbuck? I recall you had some suspicions there but don't remember if you elaborated.

I had her as pretty null and I wanted to know the basis of Nacho's town read.

I'm a little surprised how that developed.

What in particular surprises you?

I'm not likely to follow you off a cliff this game, but it shouldn't surprise me that your vote would gather a comet tail after the dayvig, but it did a little.

↑ Knuckles wrote:I think Pepto is a decent choice for scum #2 and would whole-heartedly endorse his shot tomorrow. If ASP and Pepto are both dead by the morning, will be heartily pushing an AJ lynch. If not, will be heartily pushing a Pepto lynch.

You don't appear to have a scumread on ASP but you're positing Pepto as 2nd scum with scum ASP?

A vedith lynch is not only highly likely to get rid of a scum, but it will also increase my trust of Knuckles for the already stated reasons. ASP is an easy pick. I dont know why you all jumped on him, the only thing he did was fluffing and inactivity, we just need to pressure him, not lynch him right now.

starbuck would been a fine choice for me though... yeah wtf.

This vote stays.

Also, ASP, it would be cool if you chose me. Im a lightining rod, im the person that needs BP the most. That is, if you are truthfull about your claim, which i think you are.

↑ Donempire wrote:starbuck would been a fine choice for me though... yeah wtf.

Why?

Your readslist is off.

↑ Donempire wrote:Your readslist is off.

It very well could be, but just because you have different reads than me doesn't mean that all your reads are correct. You could be completely off on someone. That's the magic of mafia.

I hope Starbuck does get revived.
I've forgotten how much I enjoy her posts when she's town.

Right, this is getting way out of hand



I'm in to many games at once and some are getting shafted.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:The only players I've played with are you/ms and Aj. I was wondering how much credence to put on your reads.

I feel decent in my ability to read Starbuck/Xtoxm.
Everyone else I haven't played with enough to know if I read them or not.
I would say probably don't trust reads on Noseferatu!

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:

↑ Knuckles wrote:I think Pepto is a decent choice for scum #2 and would whole-heartedly endorse his shot tomorrow. If ASP and Pepto are both dead by the morning, will be heartily pushing an AJ lynch. If not, will be heartily pushing a Pepto lynch.

You don't appear to have a scumread on ASP but you're positing Pepto as 2nd scum with scum ASP?

I don't have a read on ASP at this point in time, no, but having faith in townreads elsewhere means that he's a pretty solid choice for scum.
Dongempire is town as town can be.
Xtoxm is playing a hell of a scumgame if scum.
Starbuck's last few posts are awesome, I really don't think she's scum.
Davesto probably isn't scum unless something is horrible wrong (or different!) about this setup.
Vedith is playing very well if he's scum.
You haven't yet slipped up if scum.

This is 7/12 players I'm happy with townreads on, add in town leans on grapes and a pretty confident townread on Midget and there's literally nowhere to go anymore.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:I'm not likely to follow you off a cliff this game, but it shouldn't surprise me that your vote would gather a comet tail after the dayvig, but it did a little.

Hmmm.

↑ Donempire wrote:starbuck would been a fine choice for me though... yeah wtf.

What about Pepto?

Oh nevermind I should give the moderator time to look for a replacement!
Let me find a bomberman picture before I hammer, please hold.

↑ Knuckles wrote:I hope Starbuck does get revived.
I've forgotten how much I enjoy her posts when she's town.

I agree except for the forgetting part!

Oh!!!
Better way to word how I'm feeling is in a classic early Muffin sense: want another flip to confirm if the way I'm viewing the game is okay or not.
Another townflip tells me something is probably going horribly wrong. A scumflip means townreads are strong even if my scumreads aren't.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:

↑ Knuckles wrote:I hope Starbuck does get revived.
I've forgotten how much I enjoy her posts when she's town.

I agree except for the forgetting part!

I was hoping I could hammer before you got back D: