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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:13 am

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In post 447, Robbnva wrote:I think I understand your pov but I don't necessarily agree with it. I think we learn much more from a creature lynch, at least I would. Would help me figure out at least 2 people plus he's scummy
So you're saying you were arguing from a completely premise from the start? Jesus. I clearly can't learn whatever it is you're looking for since I'm not you...

Well at least I know what your issue with me was now. >.>
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:14 am

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Robb: How would your reads change depending on how Creature flipped?
I won't go for or against a Creature lynch right now but I'll look through its ISO to make up my mind.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:17 am

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In post 448, Eggman wrote:Smithereens: how would you feel about the scumminess of Creature's defense if, hypothetically:
a. we were both town
d. I was town, and it was mafioso
b. we were both mafiosos
c. I was mafioso, and it was town

(I think that we're both town, and the "scummy" part of Creature's defense is just it misremembering stuff (I do that a lot as town, too).)
Creature is scummy because what he has done is best explained by defending a scum buddy. If you're town, this assumption is wrong. If you're scum, this assumption is most likely correct. There's no 4 options.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:19 am

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did you mean completely different premise?
i'm looking for scum, i'm also looking for people who seem like they are looking for scum, and who's actions make sense to me.

p.edit - If creature flipped scum i'd be more suspicious of you. If he flipped town not sure because I would be kind of confused by his 180 for weak reasoning.

interesting note it was atm's reason for voting you that factored into me reconsidering my vote on you The reason he gave is something I actually see as something coming from town vs scum and after I iso'd you I saw at least one post that looks very town to me.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:20 am

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the fact they came in at the same time with a similar message.. uhhh
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:23 am

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In post 454, Dwlee99 wrote:the fact they came in at the same time with a similar message.. uhhh
if you are referring to the creature being scum thing, well it's pretty obvious they look to be connected.

how else do you explain him providing pretty decent reason for egg being scum and when the wagon grows he backs off for weak and incorrect reasoning?

I guess he could be scum backing off a mislynch for town cred but I don't think an egg townflip would actually earn creature any town cred
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:24 am

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@Robb, my entire suggestion is that we lynch Eggman -> Creature. My ordering makes more sense because I don't have a case against Creature if it turns out that Eggman is town.

@Dwlee fucking well spotted lol.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:25 am

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In post 448, Eggman wrote:Smithereens: how would you feel about the scumminess of Creature's defense if, hypothetically:
a. we were both town
d. I was town, and it was mafioso
b. we were both mafiosos
c. I was mafioso, and it was town

(I think that we're both town, and the "scummy" part of Creature's defense is just it misremembering stuff (I do that a lot as town, too).)
In post 449, Creature wrote:How much would your opinion on Eggman change then?
3 minutes apart..
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:26 am

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I think creature is the scum here.
VOTE: creature
it seems like creature is attempting to tie himself to egg.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:26 am

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Oh that
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:28 am

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In post 456, Smithereens wrote:@Robb, my entire suggestion is that we lynch Eggman -> Creature. My ordering makes more sense because I don't have a case against Creature if it turns out that Eggman is town.

@Dwlee fucking well spotted lol.
You say you don't have a case for creature yet your iso is full of reasons why you are suspicious of him and not as many reasons for egg so that looks like it could be compiled into a case if you wanted to.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:28 am

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I find it so anti-town saying that if I flip town you're going to lynch Eggman anyway, either your logic is bad or I got a reason to change my view on you.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:30 am

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From what I recall I publically retracted my earlier reasoning vs Creature and replaced with the argument that he's clearly defending a scum buddy in Eggman.

I'm going to sleep, If the Eggman wagon doesn't go ahead, I'm fine for killing Creature.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:31 am

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In post 461, Creature wrote:I find it so anti-town saying that if I flip town you're going to lynch Eggman anyway, either your logic is bad or I got a reason to change my view on you.
Who said they would lynch egg anyway if you flip town? Smitherines nor I said that
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:32 am

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In post 462, Smithereens wrote:From what I recall I publically retracted my earlier reasoning vs Creature and replaced with the argument that he's clearly defending a scum buddy in Eggman.

I'm going to sleep, If the Eggman wagon doesn't go ahead, I'm fine for killing Creature.
I must have missed that retraction
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:33 am

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In post 426, Robbnva wrote:
In post 417, atm487 wrote:
In post 414, Derek12 wrote:
atm487:
Do you have any scumreads that aren't Eggman currently?
so far, no, i'm still looking at all the posts, but other than Robb(only slight read) i can't think of anyone
I have had quite a few posts. You haven't been able to get a stronger read on me yet? :shifty:
Or every active player so far
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:33 am

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Hello! Reading through last nights posts...
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:37 am

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In post 416, Eggman wrote:
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In your 401, you said you'd make a chart later today. Well, it's later - did you chart it out?
That chart was literally the post before you posted that... The only explanation I have for that is that you were on a different page and didn't even check if I had posted anything....
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:38 am

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In post 436, Robbnva wrote:Also you think me putting somebody to l-1 is hopping the wagon without suspicion? If I'm wrong about egg and he flips town historically people look at the people who joined the wagon late so if anything I've put a bigger spotlight on myself especially when I said earlier that we should take our time and now a day or 2 later I'm putting him back to l-1.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:40 am

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In post 441, Robbnva wrote:And now I'm not sure what to make of egg

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What made you question your decision?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:41 am

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Smithereens

I don't understand why you're assuming me defending Eggman can't be scum whiteknighting town, are you hiding anything?
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:42 am

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In post 445, Robbnva wrote:But if you are more suspicious of creature your vote should be on creature. You even thought he was lying about eggs games and I proved he was and you don't vote him?

That just strikes me as weird. Id like to see creature get a few more votes on him.
Sometimes more information can be gained by lynching someone who could flp either way, like in my last and first game the tojam lynch would provide valuable information no matter how he flipped, and it led to my investigation of LicketyQuickety, which ultimatly led to scums downfall.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:44 am

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In post 469, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 441, Robbnva wrote:And now I'm not sure what to make of egg

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Lots to think about now
What made you question your decision?
Pretty sure all of my reasonings have been posted. Finish catching up and if you still can't tell I'll point them out. I'm heading out to pick up my son.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:45 am

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In post 472, Robbnva wrote:
In post 469, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 441, Robbnva wrote:And now I'm not sure what to make of egg

unvote


Lots to think about now
What made you question your decision?
Pretty sure all of my reasonings have been posted. Finish catching up and if you still can't tell I'll point them out. I'm heading out to pick up my son.
This looks like an SvS interaction.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:48 am

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In post 472, Robbnva wrote:
In post 469, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 441, Robbnva wrote:And now I'm not sure what to make of egg

unvote


Lots to think about now
What made you question your decision?
Pretty sure all of my reasonings have been posted. Finish catching up and if you still can't tell I'll point them out. I'm heading out to pick up my son.
If you posted them within the past few pages, I have no idea where they are.
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