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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:17 pm

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we get confirmation from Peers that his conversion would take place after the SK got in a nightkill?

My no-lynch position is more of a "safe" option that lessens our risk.

I've said that I'm willing to go along with a lynch, if someone can also make a case that their scum target is not likely to be the SK, but no one has even put forth a suspect other than KradDrol. He's at the top of my list of scum, but I'm not convinced that he couldn't be the SK.

I wouldn't put too much reliance on power roles in this game. With the "bastard mod" factor, we may not even have a doctor or it could be referring to Liam's role as the doc. I'm seriously doubting that anyone alive is a traditional doc now, otherwise we could probably blow this open with a massclaim.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:28 am

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HackerHuck wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we get confirmation from Peers that his conversion would take place after the SK got in a nightkill?
Okay, you're wrong. The only post I have about the subject says that I'll ask, but I assume it happens before any nightkills take place. Just 'cause I'm not posting much doesn't mean you can put words in my mouth. :)
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:48 am

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Peers, what do you think about KradDrol's suggestion that liamcool should tell us how many times his power can be used?
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:44 pm

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I think it sounds like KradDrol is fishing for information. At this point, liamcool is the most powerful weapon the town has; if he had a limit, say, three uses... then after the third use, the scum woudl go about killing other townies because they know he's powerless. Then again, how do we know it has a limit on how many times it can be used? Perhaps it's wishful thinking on the scum's part. Personally, I'd rather he keep his mouth shut... we know what he does, he's not in danger of being lynched, so we need to take advantage of the time he buys us... no matter how much or how little that may be.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:59 pm

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angelmouse wrote:Oh also, about the SK claim. I don't think the best idea. I'm sure the SK is on the towns side, at least for the moment, so claiming and being cured is just as much help to the mafia right now.
I'm curious why you believe this to be true.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:45 pm

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angelmouse wrote:Oh also, about the SK claim. I don't think the best idea. I'm sure the SK is on the towns side, at least for the moment, so claiming and being cured is just as much help to the mafia right now.
I'm curious why you believe this to be true.
For the same reason you did before, I can't really see an SK win with the whole scum group here and someone out there that an cure them. If the SK thought they could go it a lone then I think that would be foolish. If Peers claim is true, then the SK has a fighting chance as town. Mind you this is just my opinion.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:32 am

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It seems that what you are saying supports the SK claiming. Maybe I should have been more specific in my quote. Here is the part I'm curious about...
angelmouse wrote:...so claiming and being cured is just as much help to the mafia right now.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:58 am

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Because then it would be another town/about to be town after Peers investigates, out in the open. What with Liam and Peers essentially outed townies, another one out in the open would be another the mafia would have to kill off and seeing as a SK is dangerous to scum then it's a dangerous move outing themself. I can see the benefits of the claim granted, but I think a town's best weapon is not outing too many power roles or giving away too much information. If the SK was under fire for being scum then i would reccommend telling the town. Granted the SK is essentially neautral, but as i said before, IMO the SK would be on the town's side at least for the moment with the dimentions of the game and would want to hit scum with the next kill. That may have been why they didn't attack Peers when they could, but I don't know that for certain.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:10 pm

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I see your point. I was concerned that Peers could be lost before he gets to convert the SK, but then the scum are probably more interested in eliminating the SK than the town at this time. I was also banking on the fact that the SK would also get a kill in tonight even if converted. That wildcard definitely makes things a little more dicey if the SK were to claim.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:25 pm

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Having been on the other side of a similar situation... yeah, if we could convince the SK to work for the town, I can see a reason not to convert him... yet. But that would involve having targets for the SK and a relatively safe way to say "kill who we say, or we cure you".
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:05 pm

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It bothers me that I have nothing to say after 4 days of not posting. It doesn't help that we're missing half the players.
Apart from ryanjunk and SeraphicMirth, KradDrol has also disappeared now that he's under pressure.

Are we going to lynch KradDrol or no-lynch? Or does someone have an alternative plan?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:16 pm

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Alright, well, I've got nothing. I haven't been this clueless in a game in a while. I feel dumb.

Anyway, I think lynching anyone is better than a no-lynch unless we can be sure that liamcool can use his power. If he could, I'd consider a no-lynch. Otherwise, I think a no-lynch is a terrible idea until possibly you're into endgame.

So, I'll go for a KradDrol lynch, I suppose. Just because I don't even know right now and we need to get somewhere.

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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:04 pm

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Could we get a votecount please? I think it might be time for Kraddrol to claim.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:25 am

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HackerHuck wrote:Could we get a votecount please? I think it might be time for Kraddrol to claim.
Agreed.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:18 am

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I haven't disappeared (well, I have, but not for this reason), because the show I've been directing just opened this week, so I've been justifiably busy trying to get everything sorted. It takes a bit of precedence.

I'll claim, but I doubt it'll help. I'm the Backspace key, and I.......

do nothing. Vanilla townie. Makes no sense to me why Backspace doesn't do anything, but it doesn't. But, if you want to kill me, fine, because it means the mafia played a good game and you all are suckers for falling in for it.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:19 am

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SeraphicMirth wrote:Alright, well, I've got nothing. I haven't been this clueless in a game in a while. I feel dumb.

Anyway, I think lynching anyone is better than a no-lynch unless we can be sure that liamcool can use his power. If he could, I'd consider a no-lynch. Otherwise, I think a no-lynch is a terrible idea until possibly you're into endgame.

So, I'll go for a KradDrol lynch, I suppose. Just because I don't even know right now and we need to get somewhere.

Vote KradDrol
Why if you are stumped do you go on a (strong) bandwaggon for a lynch and put him at l-2 rather than hang fire to gain more information or wait for a claim? Nobody was saying it was a choice between No-lynch and KradDrol? Putting your l-2 vote on him with all the mafia in the game is extreamly dangerous so
Major FOS SeraphicMirth
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Also why are you clue-less? There has been a lot to talk about of late, ok not cases on player, but stuff to mention and comment on at least. I think your trying to go un-noticed and being "dumb" helps do that.

I'm not suer what to think abuot KradDrol's claim. There has been quite a few powers outed/dead so vanillia isn't out the question. I don't get the backspace either. Sadly this doesn't explain your scummy behaviour either way. I would have though having the power to delete would be a scummy/SK key to be honest. Not sure what I think of this yet.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:14 am

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Hmmmm no, there hasn't really been a lot to talk about. I don't really care too much about all that has been argued in the past few pages, because it doesn't get us anywhere in regards to finding scum. I feel like there's a lot more speculating on game theory than needs to be happening, so I haven't commented. I can see what both sides are saying and ok, that's fine and dandy, but it doesn't get us anywhere. It's also hard to wade through it all and see who's scummy within it because of that. I mean..I guess part of the game being argued would make KradDrol scum (that is why it's being argued), but..ehh...it's all kind of built on shaky foundations on both sides.

As far as No-lynch, that's not an option to me.


I put my vote on KradDrol because if I can't see anything, maybe someone else is. L-2 is not that horrendous to do. KradDrol seems as scummy as any other player to me, so sure. *shrug* I mean, obviously, as we discuss more and more information comes up, my vote may change if other things appear but right now it's all I've got.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:10 pm

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angelmouse wrote: Also why are you clue-less? There has been a lot to talk about of late, ok not cases on player, but stuff to mention and comment on at least. I think your trying to go un-noticed and being "dumb" helps do that.
Actually, being dumb and trying to be unnoticed seem to be the things that get you the most attention in most games I've been in.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:25 pm

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Peers wrote:
angelmouse wrote: Also why are you clue-less? There has been a lot to talk about of late, ok not cases on player, but stuff to mention and comment on at least. I think your trying to go un-noticed and being "dumb" helps do that.
Actually, being dumb and trying to be unnoticed seem to be the things that get you the most attention in most games I've been in.
It doesn't stop people trying it though.

Having said that, I don't see any kind of case against SeraphicMirth. I don't even see a reason to pressure her.
If anything, it looks like angelmouse (formerly ryan...) is trying to derail a KradDrol lynch.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:30 am

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eldarad wrote:
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angelmouse wrote: Also why are you clue-less? There has been a lot to talk about of late, ok not cases on player, but stuff to mention and comment on at least. I think your trying to go un-noticed and being "dumb" helps do that.
Actually, being dumb and trying to be unnoticed seem to be the things that get you the most attention in most games I've been in.
It doesn't stop people trying it though.

Having said that, I don't see any kind of case against SeraphicMirth. I don't even see a reason to pressure her.
If anything, it looks like angelmouse (formerly ryan...) is trying to derail a KradDrol lynch.
No not at all. I find him as scummy as the next, but i wouldn't just vote him l-2 (with all the mafia in the game) to move the game along though. SM's post seemed just seemed off to me and the state of play didn't lend itself to a vote to "move the game along" thats all.

Currently at the the moment I see KradDrol as the most probable lynch, but we need to eliminate other players first IMO and i was only looking around for clues. SM used her clue-lessness and dumbness as reasons not to scum hunt or comment on the game and I didn't like that. As i said before, I don't really like Krad's claim as to be a backspace key, deletion key, wouldn't have a vanila role.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:31 am

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Oh also forgot to say that I have a major job interview on wed and need to travel to it tomorrow so it's not likely i will be posting at all till wed night at the earliest.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:09 pm

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yeah, trust me, I'm not thrilled I had to claim, because it makes me look even worse.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:21 pm

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KradDrol wrote:yeah, trust me, I'm not thrilled I had to claim, because it makes me look even worse.
If anything, it's convinced me that you're not the serial killer. That could be good, but I still think you're more than a little scummy.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:51 am

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To be honest, I'm pretty sure this game is firmly in control of the scum at this point. I'm getting real close to a lynch here and even if liamcool gets to use his power again you all have spent so much time looking at me that you still have no info on who actually is mafia.

So go ahead and lynch me then, hope that liam gets one more night of powers and hopefully don't get hung up tomorrow on whether someone is asking for info or not. Because if you don't, even if I make it until tomorrow, you all will still be looking at me. Might as well get it over with before you reach an unavoidable LyLo position.

I will say, you all have made this game very easy for the scum.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:03 pm

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Sadly, in Krad's position, it's impossible to distinguish 'self-righteous townie' from 'sneaky scum'...
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