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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:01 am
by Gustavo
In post 448, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 447, Gustavo wrote:Defending myself is scum like? Dude you can’t really be this bad at mafia.
Focusing on one person scum reading you is scum like. You can call me names all you want but it doesn't make me wrong.
I’m not even voting you.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:15 am
by TwoInAMillion
In post 450, Gustavo wrote:
In post 448, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 447, Gustavo wrote:Defending myself is scum like? Dude you can’t really be this bad at mafia.
Focusing on one person scum reading you is scum like. You can call me names all you want but it doesn't make me wrong.
I’m not even voting you.
I never said you were voting me.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:16 am
by Srceenplay
we are far enough ahead, why not mass claim?

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:28 am
by TwoInAMillion
I don't think we really need it and it would hurt town more than help.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:33 am
by TehBrawlGuy
In post 449, Gustavo wrote:Look. This game is weird. I was legitimately busy last weekend and when I came back both scum were caught with a potential lead on the 3rd. You can disagree with me all you want but there is no way I’m ever going to put brawl as confirmed town and I’m not comfortable leaving him til lylo.
Clearly we don’t have an investigative or else they would have investigated brawl.


You can say I’m not scum hunting all you want but based on day 1, brawl is my desired lynch.
Not necessarily. It's very possible they hit one of the inactives instead, which is the better play, because you have content to read me on and you don't for the inactives.

It's also possible we have something like a Tracker, so even if they investigated me, they wouldn't have a clear because Garuga could've performed the kill.

Hell, it's even possible they DID investigate me, but are hoping the wagon shifts direction so they don't have to claim publicly.

In post 452, Srceenplay wrote:we are far enough ahead, why not mass claim?
Definitely not. If we have any PRs left, this just neuters them, and if we don't, we confirm that to the Scum and they know not to play around them. I would wager we probably do, given the Ascetic modifier on Garuga.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:53 am
by Gustavo
In post 452, Srceenplay wrote:we are far enough ahead, why not mass claim?
Nah

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:04 pm
by Gustavo
I’m still hung up on brawl has to be lynched before lylo. That’s a fact.

So why not now when we have the mislynch instead of later? I’d rather know now than wait.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:09 pm
by Gustavo
Fuck it, let’s shake things up.

VOTE: knuflanto

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:50 pm
by Voyc
I'm not seeing the scumreads on Brawl except for that post from Garuga
Brawl seemed pretty townie to me throughout D1??

I want to give Byron another look bc I don't really know where I stand on him and he feels kinda weird
I'll do that when I manage to squeeze some time in for it

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:09 pm
by BuJaber
Byron seems townie to me from interactions with shoshin

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 5:29 am
by ByronVilla
Is Knu not gonna get replaced? He hasn't posted in like 6 days

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:46 am
by TwoInAMillion
Byron has always been in the town block as far as I was concerned.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:14 am
by Hopkirk
@Screen: are you suggesting a MC to decide whether to lynch your neighbour?

Knuf should be replaced then lynched.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:43 am
by Music Box
I haven't finished catching up yet but so far I'm reading BuJaber, Byron and Srceenplay as town, leaning town on Brawl and Hopkirk, and leaning scum on Knuflanto.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:43 am
by Archwing
In post 460, ByronVilla wrote:Is Knu not gonna get replaced? He hasn't posted in like 6 days
Both Knu and Voyc were prodded on the last vote count. Voyc has since posted, Knu has not... I will be searching for a replacement for them immediately.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 12:04 pm
by Archwing
Dunnstral replaces knuflanto.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:08 pm
by Dunnstral
@mod Could a werewolf roleblocker perform the kill and roleblock on the same night as the last werewolf alive?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:31 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 340, Archwing wrote:
Welcome, Garuga, to Mini Normal 2010! You are an
Ascetic Werewolf
!
In post 340, Archwing wrote:
Welcome, Mumble, to Mini Normal 2010! You are a
Town Odd-Night Vigilante
!
We shouldn't mass claim, but It's positive equity for me to claim here: I'm an even night commuter, if there is a role capable of getting results weaker than a straight cop they should be on me tonight to confirm I can't be targeted.

Keep in mind that if my role were scum, I wouldn't be able to perform the factional kill while commuting, I'd be doing the same thing as the ascetic, and I wouldn't be protected from the vigilante

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:56 pm
by Archwing
In post 466, Dunnstral wrote:
@mod Could a werewolf roleblocker perform the kill and roleblock on the same night as the last werewolf alive?
A werewolf roleblocker would be allowed, as stated in the ruleset, #14] in particular.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:05 pm
by TwoInAMillion
Mafia Commuters are pretty rare, I don't think we have to worry much about that.

But commuter is a pretty common fakeclaim.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:21 pm
by Dunnstral
Should be provable if anyone can target me, there isn't any real need to lynch me today anyway

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:42 pm
by BuJaber
Can we not lynch brawl? As far as I can see the only argument against him is garuga claiming he is. We can lynch him at a later stage.

We need to sort the unknown slots.

I agree with dunn we shouldn't lynch him today either but he's far from a townread. I'm highly suspicious of his mod question. Feels like he is most concerned with showing us how he can't be scum by mechanics.

Got any reads for us Dunn?

For today I still think voyc is the best lynch

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:21 pm
by TehBrawlGuy
I'm down to hop to vocywagon for now. I'm pretty sure our last is in hopkirk/tiam still, but I think the pressure on voyc will do us good, and she's not a bad lynch anyway. VOTE: voyc

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:57 pm
by ByronVilla
Tbh I'm down to voyc too, but I'm down to lynch like any of Voy/Music/Dunn due to the inactivity (maybe not Dunn as it looks like he's actually going to be active). I have my vote on Brawl for the info we get on the flip but the more I think about it it's better to try and lynch scum now then get info on lynch flips (especially because the likelihood of there being one more scum left is super high), and Brawl is nowhere near the scummiest person here.

However out of the three I want to hear Music the most, all we have from her are a few reads with nothing behind them. I understand they're catching up but I want to hear some reasonings at some point soon. I'm interested in the scum read Voyc has on me too considering the general consensus is that I'm town, but it feels like Music just saw us posting the town block, put that down as town, and then just picked a random inactive player as scum. I'm gonna put my vote on Music Box until they've gave the reasons behind their reads, and then probably hop on the Voycwagon unless anything changes.

UNVOTE: Brawl
VOTE: Music Box

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 8:03 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 469, TwoInAMillion wrote:But commuter is a pretty common fakeclaim.
It is a pretty common fake claim, but for reasons that aren't relevant here.

People fakeclaim commuter to explain why they aren't being killed and to dissuade investigations on themselves - here, I'm not in a position to be killed by the mafia in the first place (which is part of why I claimed anyway) and I can actually be targeted by even more roles than I could before to figure out my alignment (I'm either lying about being a commuter or I'm not, there was already a werewolf ascetic flip)
In post 471, BuJaber wrote:Feels like he is most concerned with showing us how he can't be scum by mechanics.
Sure, in my 2 or so posts so far I can see you drawing that conclusion. It's not actually scummy, by definition, to prove that I'm not scum, but ok.