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In post 413, popopopopopopo wrote:i have to admit im new to this 'useful town power roles claiming for no reason in day 1' meta

but i believe the shinori claim

Not like my role is really useful, if I never claim it and die before I get the chance to claim what happens then literally a mod message gets stated that "PERSON is shivering" I don't know what town does with random information of that or if they would be able to speculate that it means to lynch that person.

If I just wait and claim later then all it does is make it so that if I have targeted scum with snowmen then they won't/can't kill me and my role effectively does nothing.

Even if I stated something like "Yo, if someone is shivering lynch them." that just ends up hinting to people who have snowmen to be wary of me.

And my neighborhood chat is dead so even if I wanted to talk to those people and see if I could get scum/town reads on them to find out if it's safe to claim in my neighborhood they have literally said they don't intend to post there until at least the end of day 1 which makes the neighborhood just a gigantic waste. Like I don't understand why you wouldn't take advantage of OC contact.

In post 442, MariaR wrote:

VC 1.2

AnonymousGhost

(3)

RadiantCowbells

, popopopopopopo, Sakura Hana

PenguinPower

(2)

Dunnstral, Fa_Q2

Shinori

(1)

Moment

NicoRobin

(1)

PenguinPower

BuJaber

(1)

Kokichi Oma

Kokichi Oma

(1)

Shinori

Moment

(1)

RadiantCowbells

Toranaga

(1)

BuJaber

Not Voting

(3)

NicoRobin, Toranaga AnonymousGhost



With 13 players, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline ends in (expired on 2018-09-11 13:25:30)

Well look at that... that double vote thing RC was doing wasn't just an easy way to track his reads after all. That's clever.

@Tora - Only people I've played with before are RC, Sakura, Dunn, and Kokichi.

In post 398, Toranaga wrote:see that's why I wanna talk about this. I think there's definitely benefits in claiming the powers, I'm just not yet sure the positives surpass the negatives

knowing who's in the hood isn't really anything special

so I guess we're all claiming that already.

we shouldn't speculate if it's one in which or any other combinations and we should treat the neighborhoods as NAI, but knowing what powers is in each one makes it so that we have control over those powers as a collective, while we could have e.g. a certain power in hands of a 2/3 scum hood, they kill the towny in it and run the thing wild alongside their factional powers. this is just an example. we could ofc have a 3-town hood where claiming the powers wouldn't benefit us, but the safest route seems to be claiming everything from the get go.

that's just my 2c and I can be convinced otherwise ofc.

In post 419, Toranaga wrote:yeah the powers should be outed so we can vote them ITT,

there's no arguing against it.

I was under the false impression we'd be able to use those powers every night, but we definitely need 100% control over the votes because scum can coordinate between them to have preferable powers being used at night when they're not all packed in the same hood.

This posting is slimy

Pretty sure toranaga was the only person who expressed interest in this when he wrote that in 398

Shinori your role flips when you die, pretty sure. Haven't seen someone die in this game yet but that's the norm generally

In post 451, AnonymousGhost wrote:Well look at that... that double vote thing RC was doing wasn't just an easy way to track his reads after all. That's clever.

What does this mean?

Check the VC. See how RC's listed as voting for myself and Moment. That's what I'm referring to.

In post 454, Dunnstral wrote:Shinori your role flips when you die, pretty sure. Haven't seen someone die in this game yet but that's the norm generally

And that could range anywhere from your full role being posted (which is probably what is going to happen in this game) to just your role name and flavor being posted

Oh, I forgot that's normally a standard thing.

I'm so used to only role names flipping...

In post 453, Dunnstral wrote:Pretty sure toranaga was the only person who expressed interest in this when he wrote that in 398

nah, I'm just correct about it and I'm assuming everyone can see the merits in claiming the hoods

Hey Tora!
Where's your head at right now.

it's on his neck

In post 264, Shinori wrote:

In post 262, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm fine with Bujab or Shinori

VOTE: Bujab

Seems to have more traction

Why am I scum?

I said why earlier but I haven't caught up. I will later

In post 462, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 264, Shinori wrote:

In post 262, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm fine with Bujab or Shinori

VOTE: Bujab

Seems to have more traction

Why am I scum?

I said why earlier but I haven't caught up. I will later

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Town: Kokichi, Shinori, BuJa, Tora, RC
Null: Nico, FA, Dunn, Moment, Popo
Scum: Sakura, PP

VOTE: Sakura Hana

I think this portion of your read:

In post 444, Sakura Hana wrote:My reason is:

FA_Q2 wrote: Awful lot of setup spec and little in actual hunting.

Is bad when you consider everyone else's posting content, or in some cases, lack of content. And the fact that the second half of your read - sheep RC - is suspicious since it would allow you to shift the blame onto him if my mislynch goes through today.

Penguin's in a same boat based on sheeping RC, something he said he'd do at the start of the game.

Anonymousghost feels utterly devoid of personality and that makes me fairly sure she's scum here.

In post 464, AnonymousGhost wrote:Penguin's in a same boat based on sheeping RC, something he said he'd do at the start of the game.

You scum read me based on me sheeping RC because I said I would? K.

I mean it's fine for you to have your reads, but I find the distribution interesting...actually, I find the fact that you can distribute as you did interesting.

I really just voted you because we're early D1 and I like wagons.

You never said anything else after you voted me, so I'm left to interpret your actions and that's the conclusion that I arrived at.

Ok. Like I said, I find it more interesting that you have the distribution that you have.

In post 464, AnonymousGhost wrote:Town: Kokichi, Shinori, BuJa, Tora, RC

Why?

In post 465, RadiantCowbells wrote:Anonymousghost feels utterly devoid of personality and that makes me fairly sure she's scum here.

hard disagree

In post 460, Sakura Hana wrote:Hey Tora!
Where's your head at right now.

I think buja and anon are town and I have no scumreads

hopefully I will when I'm read up

Shinori - His claim.
Kokichi - I don't know if he spotted Shinori's claim or not, but the point he raised against Shin - keeping an RVS vote over a scum vote - was a keen observation, hence town.
BuJu - His argument with RC surrounding the joke thing. There seems to be a lack of scum motive for pushing for something so minute, even less so when you consider he was pushing it against RC of all people.
Tora - He setup suggestion has pro-town motive IMO.
RC - Mainly effort based, but that's a low bar to pass when I consider the rest of the player list.

I need some Zzzz.

@Penguin - I can guarantee to be on tomorrow, if you have any more questions or want to argue about something. G'night!