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In post 440, bji wrote:

In post 439, Irrelephant11 wrote:yeah this game is way too quiet
Garmr who's never scum here? Maybe we just PoE the lynch

Sorry, someone please remind me what AtE and PoE mean?

Creature comes in and basically just writes that no one knows what they are doing, with very little evidence except a few quotes cherry picked from here or there, and people start unvoting?

I sense that some players are just waiting to sheep Creature because he's Creature? Like I've never played with this person before or even heard of him, there's no way I'm doing that personally. Even if I did know him, I still wouldn't do it. That's just stupid because whatever town feel you think you are reading from his play could easily be faked.

Appeal to Emotion
Process of Elimination

I have played with town Creature a few times, and while this isn't stellar play from him so far, it's definitely enough for me to not want to lynch him right now
Also if you aren't familiar with his play how do you know that the town feel I get from his posts could be easily faked

In post 450, Irrelephant11 wrote:

In post 440, bji wrote:

In post 439, Irrelephant11 wrote:yeah this game is way too quiet
Garmr who's never scum here? Maybe we just PoE the lynch

Sorry, someone please remind me what AtE and PoE mean?

Creature comes in and basically just writes that no one knows what they are doing, with very little evidence except a few quotes cherry picked from here or there, and people start unvoting?

I sense that some players are just waiting to sheep Creature because he's Creature? Like I've never played with this person before or even heard of him, there's no way I'm doing that personally. Even if I did know him, I still wouldn't do it. That's just stupid because whatever town feel you think you are reading from his play could easily be faked.

Appeal to Emotion
Process of Elimination

I have played with town Creature a few times, and while this isn't stellar play from him so far, it's definitely enough for me to not want to lynch him right now
Also if you aren't familiar with his play how do you know

that the town feel I get from his posts could be easily faked

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I want to add a lot of people underestimate creature and think he falls under the easy read category I won't make that mistake.

In post 392, Creature wrote:I don't have someone particular in mind, and I make any post I want.

ok, and i can scumread you for making them
that post read to me like you were shading bji for pushing your slot
you're saying it wasn't made for any particular purpose, which seems kinda odd to me, and the context looks scummy to me

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In post 398, Creature wrote:

In post 382, skitter30 wrote:i don't really want to talk about politics in a mafia game tbh

Well, I don't want to talk about politics in the us politics thread

if i wanted to talk about politics i'd post in the us politics thread

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In post 400, bji wrote:Do you actually want to lynch Tex? Because it doesn't sound like you do. If you wanted to lynch him, a modkill should be just as good from your perspective; maybe even better. Because:

i don't really want a slot to be modkilled; it kinda ruins the integrity of the game imo

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In post 408, ReaperOfSouls wrote:

In post 407, bji wrote:OK, thanks, I really did not understand your initial post -- I actually thought you might be throwing the game out of frustration with the mod.

No. And I know no one knows me on this site. But that is one of my biggest peeves. I honestly just needed a few days to take care of the things that I needed to do in real life without having to worry about possibly fighting off a wagon. I don't want to be a distraction for anyone let alone the players with my alignment. I havent had an issue except in this game. And it really seems like from one player. Just seems like to push when someone is known to be gone isn't very townish. Now I have to get some sleep. There are things I need to do in the am in preparation of the most beautiful girl in the world coming home for the first time.

i think that's fair; i think you can be pushed a little more so that you give some more reads/thoughts on the game
but i don't think it needs to happen *right now*; it can wait a few irl days until you have more time for this imo

i think i'm voting you?
UNVOTE:

also congrats!!!!!!!!!

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In post 417, ReaperOfSouls wrote:

In post 416, Irrelephant11 wrote:You can if you want. Your vote would be L-1

That's why I asked. Pressure is good. But I didn't want it set up for someone to quick hammer them. Sorry I don't remember off hand the term that is used on this site.

yes, let's not end the day yet; ther's a slot that's literally done nothing

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In post 414, Irrelephant11 wrote:congratulations reaper!

the AtE is working, I'll VOTE: creature and see how that goes

i thought you were townreading him yesterday?

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In post 422, Creature wrote:

In post 414, Irrelephant11 wrote:congratulations reaper!

the AtE is working, I'll VOTE: creature and see how that goes

What are you expecting to happen?

For the mod to confirm my alignment out of nowhere?

???
this feels like shade?
voting someone can prompt them to act in ai ways, making them easier to read
and how other people respond provides info both then and later in the game

like why are you saying the bolded? you know how wagoning people works and why other players may want to do that ...?

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In post 424, Creature wrote:

In post 382, skitter30 wrote:d) i don't townread creature which is low-key worrying

Then there's this crappy shade

that's not shade; that's comparing your play here o the last time you repped into a game i was in
there i was able to townread you pretty much immediately (or at least after you caught up)
here i'm not, and i find this worrying given last time

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In post 429, Irrelephant11 wrote:Okay great this is town creature
VOTE: bji

why is this town!creature?
why are you voting bji?

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In post 440, bji wrote:I sense that some players are just waiting to sheep Creature because he's Creature? Like I've never played with this person before or even heard of him, there's no way I'm doing that personally. Even if I did know him, I still wouldn't do it. That's just stupid because whatever town feel you think you are reading from his play could easily be faked.

not sheep him really
he has a rep of being really good at obvtowning when he's town

irrel seems to think he's met that threshold? i don't think he has yet

I will withhold my Creature thoughts for a bit

I'm voting Bji for a reason

In post 452, skitter30 wrote:like why are you saying the bolded? you know how wagoning people works and why other players may want to do that ...?

As far as I know voting someone and saying "let's see where it goes" isn't that effective.

In post 452, skitter30 wrote:that's not shade; that's comparing your play here o the last time you repped into a game i was in
there i was able to townread you pretty much immediately (or at least after you caught up)
here i'm not, and i find this worrying given last time

Maybe because I was since the start there? Maybe because it had more players there? Maybe because the players were more fun there?

Whatever, 9-players games are starting to be more horrible

Seems like some inverse Malthus' theory, replacing food with number of players and population with open-mindedness

In post 455, Creature wrote:

In post 452, skitter30 wrote:that's not shade; that's comparing your play here o the last time you repped into a game i was in
there i was able to townread you pretty much immediately (or at least after you caught up)
here i'm not, and i find this worrying given last time

Maybe because I was since the start there? Maybe because it had more players there? Maybe because the players were more fun there?

it was a 9player micro that you replaced into on page7 that also had a fair amount of lurking

Did it have Ausuka and Umlaut?

In post 454, Creature wrote:

In post 452, skitter30 wrote:like why are you saying the bolded? you know how wagoning people works and why other players may want to do that ...?

As far as I know voting someone and saying "let's see where it goes" isn't that effective.

sometimes it is

i didn't like the followup question of 'do you expect the mod to confirm my alignment' because you and he both know that's not how it works and you're kinda like undermining the notion of pressure votes

In post 459, Creature wrote:Did it have Ausuka and Umlaut?

yes

In post 460, skitter30 wrote:and you're kinda like undermining the notion of pressure votes

Garmr wanted to hammer me

In post 461, skitter30 wrote:

In post 459, Creature wrote:Did it have Ausuka and Umlaut?

yes

That's right

There were plenty of readable players there and I easily pegged scumteam + 1 town D1.

In post 462, Creature wrote:

In post 460, skitter30 wrote:and you're kinda like undermining the notion of pressure votes

Garmr wanted to hammer me

you said it in response to irrel's vote

In post 463, Creature wrote:

In post 461, skitter30 wrote:

In post 459, Creature wrote:Did it have Ausuka and Umlaut?

yes

That's right

There were plenty of readable players there and I easily pegged scumteam + 1 town D1.

and? why does that explain why i was able to townread you there but i'm not townreading you here?

In post 450, Irrelephant11 wrote: Also if you aren't familiar with his play how do you know that the town feel I get from his posts could be easily faked

Because any posting style that would lead you to a conclusion that he is town in like 10 posts is easily faked. It only takes 10 posts' worth of work apparently.

Also it's impossible for someone to be so easily town read just on style unless their scum game is terrible. Because then one could easily know when creature was scum because he wouldn't be playing this easy to read town style. Of course if he could then fake that easy to read town style, then my point above would be proven.

In post 456, Creature wrote:Whatever, 9-players games are starting to be more horrible

Are large games more fun? I wondered if I was was to join another small or large one next game. Do you have to be much better?

In post 464, skitter30 wrote:and? why does that explain why i was able to townread you there but i'm not townreading you here?

Because I didn't need much effort to solve the game there?

In post 466, Sashaddin wrote:

In post 456, Creature wrote:Whatever, 9-players games are starting to be more horrible

Are large games more fun? I wondered if I was was to join another small or large one next game. Do you have to be much better?

You probably need to know who to trust. If you happen to townread someone and that someone is pretty confident someone else is town, you should consider townreading that someone else too.

What exactly is the difference between 15 sentences scattered over 15 posts and a 15 sentence wall? I can't see any ...

In post 465, bji wrote:Also it's impossible for someone to be so easily town read just on style unless their scum game is terrible. Because then one could easily know when creature was scum because he wouldn't be playing this easy to read town style. Of course if he could then fake that easy to read town style, then my point above would be proven.

he has a reputation for having an awful scumgame
(although in recent months it's gotten better; i think he just won 3way lylo as scum)

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In post 467, Creature wrote:

In post 464, skitter30 wrote:and? why does that explain why i was able to townread you there but i'm not townreading you here?

Because I didn't need much effort to solve the game there?

so you're saying i was able to townread easily there because you didn't need to effort to solve that game, but since this game requires more effort you aren't able to towntell as easily here?

In post 453, Irrelephant11 wrote:I will withhold my Creature thoughts for a bit

I'm voting Bji for a reason

I disagree
how about talking to me?

In post 452, skitter30 wrote:

In post 400, bji wrote:Do you actually want to lynch Tex? Because it doesn't sound like you do. If you wanted to lynch him, a modkill should be just as good from your perspective; maybe even better. Because:

i don't really want a slot to be modkilled; it kinda ruins the integrity of the game imo

Fair enough; one of my only two losses came from a modkill, and I guess I'm ambivalent about them now as a result. If I'm going to lose to them, then I don't mind if they help me out either. This is assuming that a Tex death would be good for town; and I think it would.

In post 448, Creature wrote:Oh right, you think I have a decent chance of flipping scum, but others don't.

Others don't have a decent chance of flipping scum?

Or others don't think you have a decent chance of flipping scum?

Which did you mean?

Also my lynch won't give any info if everybody goes like "let's lynch creature for info"

But not will say that. I've never once seen a unanimous wagon. The dissention itself will provide info won't it?

In post 473, bji wrote:Others don't have a decent chance of flipping scum?

Or others don't think you have a decent chance of flipping scum?

Which did you mean?

The latter lol