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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:13 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 429, Suka wrote:
In post 427, mbaki wrote: VOTE: Suka
Why?
Aren't you the one that thinks votes should be unjustified?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:13 pm
by Vorkuta
Not 'wrong' no:
apparently according to suka my playstyle this game sucks compared to my newbie game.
I'm replying with "in my newbie game I had stuff to analyse- here I don't"

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:14 pm
by Suka
Vorkuta, why don't you vote Bright with me?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:15 pm
by Nero Cain
Suka, whats your mafia experience? Do you play on another site?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:16 pm
by Suka
In post 450, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't you the one that thinks votes should be unjustified?
There's a difference between requesting "justification" and asking why you voted someone.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:16 pm
by Kmd4390
Jumping on to understand it is something I wouldn't do personally, but I guess I can see where it could make sense. But:
Vorkuta wrote:at which point I hop on the suka wagon.
^That sounds more like being ok with the lynch considering the size of the wagon and deadline being a little closer now. Has something changed?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:21 pm
by OkaPoka
Yyotta is going to get prodded soon so that should be resolved + she posted elsewhere on site yesterday.

My main worry rn is that certain people aren't actually reading the game.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:22 pm
by Vorkuta
In post 455, Kmd4390 wrote:Has something changed?
Suka made more posts :mrgreen:

But seriously- in all fairness, I want to see the Yyotta wagon go through as she'll stonewall the game otherwise. (prove me wrong!)
If it won't happen at all, then
In post 385, Vorkuta wrote:So I'd like to get a quick lynch and move on to night stage for when PRs can truly shine.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:24 pm
by OkaPoka
The thing is I don't think Yyotta is actually reading the game so votes won't matter to her

Sure maybe out of policy we lynch Yyotta but I think suka has a chance of being scum here so

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:27 pm
by Suka
In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:I think suka has a chance of being scum
From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:28 pm
by Vorkuta
In post 452, Suka wrote:Vorkuta, why don't you vote Bright with me?
Because I don't think that it will through

His ISO only gives me:
Yyota RVS and bit of pressure
sorry afk
sorry what'd I miss
wow guys, hating on me for asking for help
varsoon stop bully
DDL AtE = don't get the scum hread
Suka wagon

and that gives my literally no grounds to vote on him
Like- what am I supposed to say when asked for why I would be voting for BEF- Suka told me to?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:31 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 459, Suka wrote:
In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:I think suka has a chance of being scum
From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?
you know what i mean

suka has a *decent/sizable/enough to matter* chance of being scum

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:31 pm
by OkaPoka
Also you just aren't going to answer questions about your history with mafia?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:32 pm
by Suka
In post 460, Vorkuta wrote:His ISO only gives me:
Yyota RVS and bit of pressure
sorry afk
sorry what'd I miss
wow guys, hating on me for asking for help
varsoon stop bully
DDL AtE = don't get the scum hread
Suka wagon
These behaviors are more likely to come from scum than town, especially when comparing Bright's play as town/scum. He's quite active & independent thinking as town, none of which seems to be the case here.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:33 pm
by Nero Cain
this is really the only Vork post that seems scummy to me.
In post 376, Vorkuta wrote:I'm willing to jump on the DDL wagon (when/if he comes back) even though it doesn't really make sense to me..
In post 374, BrightEyedFish wrote:I don't know if he is trying to use AtE to get people off of him and its having the opposite effect or what
Pretty much this- I think scum is way too classy to AtE, especially come D1...
First the "i'll vote a wagon that I don't even understand" is a little go with the flow and his "scum wouldn't ate like that" is some strange ass justification to town read DDL.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:33 pm
by Vorkuta
In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:I think suka has a chance of being scum
Ok I'll play ball

Suka's posts come off as very pushy for whatever wagon she's feels like pushing and have a very mean time.
Based on the way she posts, I doubt that she's a newbie, and hence I think she's fishing for things.
Like there's no way good scum!suka ends up at L-2 THIS EARLY ON.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:34 pm
by Suka
In post 461, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 459, Suka wrote:
In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:I think suka has a chance of being scum
From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?
you know what i mean

suka has a *decent/sizable/enough to matter* chance of being scum
No, I didn't know what you were saying. It feels like you're using the word "chance" to hedge. Why are you scumreading me? What have I done that you think more likely to come from scum than town?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:34 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 463, Suka wrote:
In post 460, Vorkuta wrote:His ISO only gives me:
Yyota RVS and bit of pressure
sorry afk
sorry what'd I miss
wow guys, hating on me for asking for help
varsoon stop bully
DDL AtE = don't get the scum hread
Suka wagon
These behaviors are more likely to come from scum than town, especially when comparing Bright's play as town/scum. He's quite active & independent thinking as town, none of which seems to be the case here.
From my one game with him where he was town, he was not active and independent thinking.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:36 pm
by Suka
Link the game.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:37 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 465, Vorkuta wrote:Like there's no way good scum!suka ends up at L-2 THIS EARLY ON.
What if she's just not good?

Like its plenty possible, she's just scum and she's been caught. You continue to give very strange reasons for your town reads...

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:38 pm
by OkaPoka
@vorkuta, I think that's reaching a bit.
@suka I'm scumreading you because you aren't being transparent and you are too conf-bias-y to the point where I don't think it comes from town.

game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77657

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:38 pm
by Vorkuta
In post 464, Nero Cain wrote:this is really the only Vork post that seems scummy to me.
You see- that's my problem with this game in particular.
scum!vork would have such an easy pass right now, that it's not even funny.
I think the same goes for a third of the entire player cast.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:38 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 453, Nero Cain wrote:Suka, whats your mafia experience? Do you play on another site?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:39 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 471, Vorkuta wrote:scum!vork would have such an easy pass right now, that it's not even funny.
how would a scum Vork navigate this game?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:41 pm
by Suka
In post 470, OkaPoka wrote:@suka I'm scumreading you because you aren't being transparent and you are too conf-bias-y to the point where I don't think it comes from town.
Where do you see me being "non-transparent" and "too conf-bias-y"? And why are those things scummy?

I wouldn't use that terms to describe my play, nor do I think they're more likely to come from scum (transparency is a playstyle thing and confirmation bias is a minor town tell).