In post 353, Havo wrote:Well IDK. skitters ISO is very town to me.
Anything particular that sticks out?
No, it’s more of a composite thing. No guarantees there of course, but yeah, I think it’s pretty townie.
Because I was thinking he wasn’t so much going into his ISO, and then I was like , well. A bit surprised.
In post 366, PMysterious wrote:I haven't played much in the past 2 years. I'm just now getting back into Mafia again. So, my playstyle may be a little different from before. It's been 7 years since then after all.
Outside of that, I can't really add a lot at the moment.
I'm not sure pm is scummy really ^
I agree, that post was bad but I think it was genuine. I don’t see scum making that post.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:51 pm
by Havo
In post 440, Flavor Leaf wrote:As of right now, I have a hard town read on Robb, and a decently strong scum read on Skitter. I don’t have much time today.
I still haven’t been able to fully soak up this game yet, so i’m Going merely surface level.
I’m not quite sure on Vorkuta yet.
I”d like to hear more about this Skitter scum read.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:51 pm
by Flubbernugget
I'm going to look at this tomorrow
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:51 pm
by Skygazer
Prodded Flubbernugget, Vorkuta and Tchill13.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:52 pm
by Havo
In post 448, Luca Blight wrote:@Mod: Vorkuta hasn’t posted for over three days. Can he get a prod?
And Havo needs replacing + possible deadline extension, although I’m losing the will to play this game atm...
Okay Luca hang in there. I’ll be more active for sure. And I thing this game will pick up when Flavor gets involved.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:53 pm
by Skygazer
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:55 pm
by Havo
It would be nice if Vork would come post and give his thoughts.
Right now I don’t really feel any different, other than taking PM out of my lynch pool.
Vork, Fall and Flub.
I’d like to hear more from Tchill
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:10 pm
by Vorkuta
Sorry I forgot to announce an unexpected V/LA, but I've more or less caught up.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:19 pm
by Vorkuta
Right- let's begin with the usual suspects
@skitter- come on. What even is this push.
You know my MO when it comes to scum games so if you think this even compares to cats then I have nothing but facepalm emojis for you
@papa leaf- it's funny because out of all the slots you replaced, it HAD to be fallsoul, like the one person that I probably would've actually decided to push properly today. now we have the usual "dun vote this slot until endgame" shenanigans with your replace in
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:29 pm
by Vorkuta
Havo seems to be the only one out of the remaining "active" players that's doing meaningful pushing and solving IMHO.
Robb has one trick in his book and every other posts comes from his "lets hypertunnel" agenda. I don't know if this lack of nuance is his town play, but I can see it go both ways.
Tchill feels like he's saying words but not producing actual content with his posts- reads as someone being political and not attracting any unwanted attention
Flubber, like ^, has even more hot air in his ISO. However in our previous game together he was pretty much exactly like this and it was very difficult to get stuff out of him so this might well be his town game
I don't have a read on jigglypuff but I think there are more interesting slots to hunt today
Luca is also doing solving
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:44 am
by Luca Blight
You’d better vote someone then as there isn’t long left in the day.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:47 am
by Luca Blight
I don’t get the lack of interest in a PM lynch. His recent post was ok but overall then isn’t much that makes me feel like he is Town.
I would be willing to compromise on lynching any of the following: Slitter, Tchill, Flavor.
Vorkuta is probably Town due to the lack of action in the game while he’s been main wagon.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:03 am
by Robbnva
In post 459, Vorkuta wrote:@skitter- come on. What even is this push.
You know my MO when it comes to scum games so if you think this even compares to cats then I have nothing but facepalm emojis for you
so why do you think skitter is town?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:04 am
by Robbnva
In post 460, Vorkuta wrote:Robb has one trick in his book and every other posts comes from his "lets hypertunnel" agenda. I don't know if this lack of nuance is his town play, but I can see it go both ways.
I'm your top scum read and this is why?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:07 am
by Robbnva
In post 462, Luca Blight wrote:I don’t get the lack of interest in a PM lynch. His recent post was ok but overall then isn’t much that makes me feel like he is Town.
I would be willing to compromise on lynching any of the following: Slitter, Tchill, Flavor.
Vorkuta is probably Town due to the lack of action in the game while he’s been main wagon.
I can get behind a pm lynch also but vork just said he has an unexpected v/la so you can't really give him town points for being inactive, assuming he is telling the truth.
This part about PM
"His recent post was ok but overall then isn’t much that makes me feel like he is Town"
could easily be applied to vork, minus the "his recent post was ok" part.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:26 am
by Luca Blight
But no-one has been bothered about Vorkuta getting lynched. The only player who has been questioning Vorkuta’s Lynch recently has been me, and I obviously know I’m not his partner. In a game where there are so many dubious players it would be unbelievable for scum to sleepwalk into being lynched.
I guess it’s possible he could be scum, but I can’t remember scum ever being lynched in such an easy manner when a game has been in such a lifeless state. The current game state is the perfect environment for scum to stay in the shadows.
I agree that behavior wise there isn’t a lot to suggest Vorkuta is Town, but there’s not a lot to suggest he’s scum either. He’s edging closer to being lynched but doesn’t seem to be survivalistic.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:31 am
by Robbnva
The main problem is the game is in a lifeless state.
In post 388, Flubbernugget wrote:Tchill looks pretty town. I would have liked to have seen them do more than just two things D1 (azure placate & nom push) but I'm pretty sympathetic to why that isn't the case. They deff had a good effort to try and dig the game out of the situation it was in, and I believe them when they say they wouldn't do that as scum.
Where do you think he tried to dig the game out of the situation it was in ????
The azure coaching would normally ring between nai and scummy, but coupled with how he was trying to investigate how people were reacting to azure looked pretty town
That was my null (tier list goes like solid > lean > null > lean > solid), but I'm opposed to lynching her based on the expected utility she'll bring to town.
Same applies to papa leaf, although I have less faith in that, esp. considering his opening
I did mention that it was more policy based until I/we cooled down and there was other in game content to analyze.
However so far, you're kind of a one-trick pony and that's just
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:55 am
by Robbnva
i've been keeping the pressure on you so you can contribute something of value, so what you call a one trick pony, I call pressuring a lurker who had a scummy play day one, scummy vote day 1, and isn't doing anything to produce game content to analyze.
the only reason i chose you over the others is you tried to shade me for stating the obvious. Something that i don't think I have seen anyone disagree with. I don't see town motivation for that.
You are most likely scum imo, worse case I am wrong and you are just a useless turd who doesn't care about finding scum. Who doesn't care about playing to their win condition. Either way I don't give a shit anymore.
At least 5 people who haven't contributed anything useful. We have 2/3 scum so that means there are townies out there who are in my opinion, playing against their win condition.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:01 am
by Robbnva
In post 283, Robbnva wrote:Vork actually taking that list seriously is lazy. It’s something I can see scum doing. I won’t death tunnel him (yet) but he needs to step it up if he’s not scum.
As of 8:20 this morning. I have waited a full week for you to contribute. We now have 2 days, 8 hours to decide who to lynch and you still have done nothing. I gave you the chance to step it up and you chose not to. get wrecked
WTF is going on with this website? Can we buy some new hamsters or something? slow as fuck
Any thoughts on Skitter defending you before putting Vorkuta at L-2?
To be fair, Tchill was the one that first stated that the Azure wagon couldn't have all been town. That's the main point Tchill has made, but other than that, I can't really think of anything.
As for Skitter, I am thankful that she defended me, and the vote on Vork, considering that I have him as a null at the moment, it's a fair vote.
Looking through, I definitely see why Vork would be the leading wagon, but I'd personally put more emphasis on Flavor Leaf at the moment, because the question I have still hasn't been answered. It's easy to defend the slot that you are occupying, but Flavor stated that he was looking to defend the Fallsoul slot regardless of the slot, so I'm curious about this defense.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:18 am
by Vorkuta
In post 471, Robbnva wrote:so what you call a one trick pony, I call pressuring a lurker who had a scummy play day one, scummy vote day 1, and isn't doing anything to produce game content to analyze.
pot-ey-toh/po-tah-to eh?
I notice you already moving up a gear, and this is extremely rich considering that your next comment is literally this charming insult
In post 471, Robbnva wrote:you are just a useless turd who doesn't care about finding scum
In post 472, Robbnva wrote:I have waited a full week for you to contribute.
I contribute at my own pace as I can't pull decent and solid reads out of my backside, especially when I'm in the center of attention and hogging the spotlight. I was away w/o internet for a while (yes, my bad for not informing blah blah), however I can say the same thing about you: I've been waiting the entirety of D2 for you to say literally anything that isn't "vork is scum, why are you guys not vorking?" which might help me read you.