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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:59 am
by Evenstar
In post 449, Severa wrote:The idea that scum me cares about your vote on me is stupid.
Nice popin. Got those game for me?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:00 pm
by Severa
Town me doesn't actually care either, just so you know.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:00 pm
by Evenstar
In post 451, Severa wrote:Town me doesn't actually care either, just so you know.
Funny, that was the question I was just about to ask. Interesting that you apparently reread your own post and felt you had to clarify.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:02 pm
by Evenstar
In post 451, Severa wrote:Town me doesn't actually care either, just so you know.
Does town you care about my wasting my time casing you when I could be doing better and more productive things?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:04 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 433, Severa wrote:
In post 430, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think “Severa is trying to dominate the game” is a pretty play based reason
Did I or did I not attempt to dominate the game in literally every game when I've been town? Given that that is obviously true, how can it be a scumtell?
Pretty sure you’ve self described that as your scum play. So unless you want to tell me your personal appraisal of your scum play has been a lie, you’re going to need to tell me what I’m missing.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:04 pm
by Farkran
In post 446, Kerset wrote:Isn't that cool that both Fark and severa have same tactic but execute it differently. Even that they didn't know each other, sev quickly recognized what Fark opening was about. Also Fark instantly called first seve claim as bs. Interaction worth to be noted.
It's the powerwolf blood. It runs deep in our veins, even when we are town.

Jokes aside, i'd like to know where Evenstar is truly aiming. I also thought of a forum title for her that i will be disclosing postgame.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 435, Severa wrote:Like you called me scum last game for trying to dominate the game. So it's clearly not a good reason to call me scum. Why are you still using a reason as town that over a sample size of over 100 games I do as town 90%+ of the time? That's not honest sorting
In post 436, Severa wrote:Last game here now using your parlance of Masquerade.
No THAT GAME I scumread you because I felt like you were preserving scum slots.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 pm
by Bitmap
We're not lynching Severa today.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:06 pm
by Bitmap
VOTE: Venus and Mars

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:08 pm
by Salamence20
In post 444, Bitmap wrote:
In post 442, Salamence20 wrote:Why is anyone even giving SEVERA the time of day until she proves it with a shot.
Hi Salamance qt. How are u? What are your thoughts on Evenstar?
I dont think she likes me.

Game-wise: I think shes playing pretty townie, a nice “down to earth” voice, kinda like Enter/G4 from masquerade. As long as she doesnt turn into enter I think shes town.
Severa wrote:The idea that scum me cares about your vote on me is stupid.
Why did you have to bring it up? Like its 1 (or actually 3) vote(s)?

P-Edit: Oh yeah it has been awhile since we would hear about that catchup from Shiro Drew. Hmmmmm

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:10 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 439, Severa wrote:So like, no, your actual reason for scumreading me is not "because I'm trying to dominate the game." I'm not stupid and the other players in the game aren't stupid. The fact that in a year where I'm running around with a 70% town winrate as people complain about site town winrates falling and you still managed to be the first dude in site history to errantly vig me as town, then later commented that it was the "correct and pro-town play", says that your problem isn't with anything I'm doing in this game. It's with me. And that's not fair to me.
Well I do have a problem with you. You talk about me empirically scumreading you when your town but what about the fact you let scumreads on you screw up your ability to play well and then say the blame is on others? People are allowed to suspect you, and you can’t change that unless your play can radically change. So instead of expecting others to curve around your temperament you should work to fix your habit. “You are the only person you can control” and all that jazz.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:11 pm
by Salamence20
In post 460, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 439, Severa wrote:So like, no, your actual reason for scumreading me is not "because I'm trying to dominate the game." I'm not stupid and the other players in the game aren't stupid. The fact that in a year where I'm running around with a 70% town winrate as people complain about site town winrates falling and you still managed to be the first dude in site history to errantly vig me as town, then later commented that it was the "correct and pro-town play", says that your problem isn't with anything I'm doing in this game. It's with me. And that's not fair to me.
Well I do have a problem with you. You talk about me empirically scumreading you when your town but what about the fact you let scumreads on you screw up your ability to play well and then say the blame is on others? People are allowed to suspect you, and you can’t change that unless your play can radically change. So instead of expecting others to curve around your temperament you should work to fix your habit. “You are the only person you can control” and all that jazz.
BuT Im AlLOwEd ToO CaUSe tHiS iS aN AlT

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:12 pm
by Evenstar
In post 458, Bitmap wrote:VOTE: Venus and Mars
Why this movement?

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:13 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 448, Evenstar wrote:
In post 397, Severa wrote:Ok, my hood and I have discussed this and I'm going to open this to the floor
My actual abilities are day desperado -> day vig and using combined abilities we can get me up to 100 MP today
I am going to therefore be using the desperado today but I would prefer to use it on someone who, if it fails, is going to actually be useful to town.

So, ignoring my reads momentarily and focusing on the people that I think have some utility as town leader

Evenstar
Farkran
Venus & Mars (Primarily aimed at ND39, but if she continues lurking we're going to lynch rather than desp this slot)
Kerset
Salamence20

How effectively do you think you perform as IC, what are your reads right now, do you have any shot recommendations
... So Severa posts this at 3:45, gets into an argument with Gamma that lasts until 4:19, and then when I post suspecting her based on her differences in tone between this and Magical Girl Mafia she disappears. It's currently 4:55 and there's no sign of her.

When reading high-level players I tend to assume that everything is deliberate. From that perspective, this looks very, very bad. I've never seen Severa
flinch from a suspicion
before. I thought she might be going to fetch her towngames for me, but now it's been like half an hour; Ego Search ought to make it fast for her to just toss me one or two, and she was very definitely still in the thread when I posted my initial read of her.

I feel quite comfortable with this vote right now.

VOTE: Severa
Or Severa was engaging with me and not you and after making her point, left. I still don’t like Severa but this also looks bad.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:14 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 453, Evenstar wrote:
In post 451, Severa wrote:Town me doesn't actually care either, just so you know.
Does town you care about my wasting my time casing you when I could be doing better and more productive things?
This question is wonky, it reads like trying to pre-empt what Severa might say.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:15 pm
by Farkran
VOTE: V&M

Willing to try this.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:17 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Because I feel like it, I’m going to walk through my stance on Severa. Until I get a satisfactory explanation of why my impressions of her self-meta are wrong, I really don’t see myself dropping the read, but outside of that I feel like I have no reason to suspect Severa.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 198, Severa wrote:Vote Salamence or vote me and get me out of this game all you scrubby scrub scrub WOATs!!!!!
Holy shit why do you think this ever convinces anyone

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:24 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 205, Severa wrote:I have a one use day parity cop ability that I used like after a little posting and Salamence20 / TemporalLich are of opposite alignments
So we have this and I noticed the desparado > day vig claim too
Is there anything I’m missing or is this it? Either way I’ve never known RC to be one to gambit with claims on this level so it’s strange, but I wouldn’t call it scum rn, could just be his role influencing him, I had a game where I considered doing a fake guilty gambit but only because I had a delayed vigilante role and figured if I wanted to recant it I could and it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world because a doctor could stop the kill. So I understand roles can determine tactics.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:26 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 216, Salamence20 wrote:This is a cute gambit.

I highly doubt severa is an investigative role, because I am a rolecop
Why do you doubt town would have multiple investigative roles? This response ain’t great ngl

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:28 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 236, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 230, Bitmap wrote:Hot take: Severa and Salamance could be town together?
Unless you believe severa, that means TL is scum right?
You mean don’t believe Severa right???

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:31 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Also thinking about it I guess I do recall around the time I joined RC was infamous for faking guilties as town
But the fact he is changing his claim like Flavor Leaf is new to me
This is a follow up to 468 FYI

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:33 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 254, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 245, Bitmap wrote:Y'all seriously going to take sheepy mc sheep Alchemist and not push him?
Explain how it’s scummy and maybe they will.

Of course then they’d be sheeping you and you’d have to vote them too.
Yuck
I’d kinda been liking Alchemist up to here but this is twisted

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:35 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 264, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 244, Farkran wrote:I think only the magia part of salamence claim is bs

The rest is true
Why would I lie about 1 part
Tbh this question is fair, also this the second time Farkran has had a response like this to a claim
Like it feels like Farkran is posting scum PT thoughts in the main thread by trying to rate the claims’ legitamacy

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:37 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 268, Severa wrote:Farkran is just... not posting great things.
Does this mean you’re not townreading him now or?