Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:29 pm

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In post 448, Alduskkel wrote:Okay, you got me pops. The truth is I don't have a very strong scumread on Egix. I wanted to act like it was (and, ideally, create a wagon) in order to pressure the slot into giving more AI information.

Why do you scumread pops, Auro?
Stop it I am trying to aggregate a confident scumread somewhere
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:30 pm

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Pops, do you townread all of {Suji, Egix, ML}?
I know you said it seems like Egix is "set up to fail", what does that mean?
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:33 pm

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I'm more interested in why you "wish you were not" scumreading me. Why would it be preferable not to be scumreading me? If you subscribe the magazines that overrate my scumgame I'd think it'd be relieving that it could be correct play to murderlate me and not have to try to read me anymore. If you subscribe to the magazines that overrate my townplay, there aren't really any, I don't think anyone has ever bemoaned a lack of sorting power when I've died in any game.
I admitted to scumreading you when you were town, too.

So why that framing Auro?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:33 pm

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In post 433, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 413, Auro wrote:Before questions, I'd like to hear your opinions on reading the game first.
Auro continues to exhibit a line of anti-town questioning.
Yeah no it's not anti-town to try making someone more readable, fresh thoughts on entering the thread are always useful.

Look, how about you take your own advice, ignore my slot and play the game?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:34 pm

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I wish you were town and I was confident you were town, Pops, cause it'd be more fun.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:35 pm

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I dislike having to push you.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:37 pm

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In post 451, Auro wrote:Pops, do you townread all of {Suji, Egix, ML}?
I know you said it seems like Egix is "set up to fail", what does that mean?
Any way Egix responded to Alduskkel for a gamestate summary of a game with 4 scum and 4 masons is probably going to look underwhelming. Then, Alduskkel calls it underwhelming.

Suji has posted very little and I don't have a read. I think I would sort ML towards town. Egix has posted a lot more than Suji but it seemed very NAI to me, the extent to which I think he's town is concern about the legitimacy of both Alduskkel's and Klick's attacks.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:37 pm

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In post 439, popsofctown wrote:
In post 415, Klick wrote:
In post 218, Miss Lane wrote:Finally, I think it's pretty scummy that of the players in the game right now, the only two you can really list as possibly scummy are Homura and me. Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.
Up until this post the only scumread you've expressed is Alduskkel.

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Irrelevant, but not hypocrisy. I haven't stated who I do and do not find scummy at this stage in the game, he has. I have at this point at the very least implied I find other people scummy. I simply chose to ignore it when Klick figured it was more important to make irrelevant stabs at me because they can't manage to read and understand a couple paragraphs completely vise responding to them.
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Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:37 pm

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In post 434, CheekyTeeky wrote:Miss Lynch are you scumreading Auro?
I'm torn on them.
ftr ML has played pretty well and deserves a win if they get it. - pisskop
Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:38 pm

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In post 455, Auro wrote:I dislike having to push you.
Aren't you going to have to push someone? What's bad about pushing me and particular? I don't think I have a history of gross L-1 AtEs or something.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:40 pm

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In post 453, Auro wrote:
In post 433, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 413, Auro wrote:Before questions, I'd like to hear your opinions on reading the game first.
Auro continues to exhibit a line of anti-town questioning.
Yeah no it's not anti-town to try making someone more readable, fresh thoughts on entering the thread are always useful.
That's an excuse at best.

Look, how about you take your own advice, ignore my slot and play the game?
I'm being legitimately conversational about items of interest to me and pushing what I think might be a somewhat decent lynch and now you're trying to get me to find someone else?

I asked you to ignore my slot because you're insisting on asking questions with no purpose other than to sate your ego or remove any possible nuance from the game, you asking me to ignore your slot because I'm pushing you is completely different.
ftr ML has played pretty well and deserves a win if they get it. - pisskop
Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:41 pm

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Auro smells a bit off. Too much off-topic stuff or jokes.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:42 pm

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Actually.

Please explain how my comment was
not
playing the game.
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Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:42 pm

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In post 459, popsofctown wrote:Aren't you going to have to push someone?
Of course I do, don't have to enjoy it always though?
Nothing's "bad", I would've just preferred that you were town and I townread you.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:43 pm

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In post 455, Auro wrote:I dislike having to push you.
You're making a lot of comments about how you might push something but I have yet to see you do anything that requires taking a legitimate stance yet.
ftr ML has played pretty well and deserves a win if they get it. - pisskop
Welp, we lost. I actually believed ML's claim. ... And seriously. We knew ML was a vote manipulator and still thought she was telling the truth. ... Well, looks like town is going to let the sk's win. That was kind of a genius play by ML. ... ML deserves this win. That was a good play on her part. - Rautherdir
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:44 pm

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My legitimate stance is {Pops, Egix, Suji, maybe ML}.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:44 pm

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Auro, does your thinking I am Mafia extend from the reasoning that you applied to Homura or is there something else in addition?
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:45 pm

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In post 461, woodchuck321 wrote:Auro smells a bit off. Too much off-topic stuff or jokes.
This can be applied to more players than Auro.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:46 pm

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Yes, I don't think your questions are very useful, you refused to offer fresh thoughts transparently upon entering the thread, you offered only one read and I don't vibe with that read.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm

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Plus, repping out could also be weakly indicative of a scumslot.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:48 pm

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I don't feel satisfied by your answer. I rarely would say "I wish I wasn't scumreading X", and all the times I do there is something unique about X and Auro is saying there isn't actually anything unique. That leaves me closer to "poor towngame emulation".
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:48 pm

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I've never said that yet as town. :P
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:50 pm

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Auro's seriousface:joke ratio is always 9:1 and this game hasn't been an exception, woodchuck's criticism seems bizarre. I think I've been way fluffier.

Setting aside whether it would be AI
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:50 pm

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There is something unique about wishing *you* would be town? You're a competent townplayer and you've stated in the past you have way more fun as town while disguising it as scum, and I don't think we were town alongside before.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:51 pm

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In post 461, woodchuck321 wrote:Auro smells a bit off. Too much off-topic stuff or jokes.
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