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woah look how fast that wagon moved

In post 448, hellbooks wrote:Ive stated my reasoning & you are free to respond to it

well I usually do better at explaining things that I know than things I don't know.

like when someone attacks me as scum - it's easy for me to respond to that - I have a role PM.

when someone asks me to pick between 2 wagons - I don't know which of you is scum - I can just read your posts and try to figure out what's going on -

it's wierd when you replace into a game and you don't have a sense of flow or time - makes it harder to get an idea of what went on when you re-read. To really get into it I'd need to be here when the actual action goes on but there hasn't been much posting since i've replaced in -mostly just me and varsoon going back and forth about whether I'm town or not.

The only read I'm fairly confident in at this point is that Varsoon is town.

Your characterization that I've spent no time trying to pick between you and Raya is unfair - I did re-read what you two have posted and there isn't really much to go on between the two of you.

is anyone still around? >.>

In post 450, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:woah look how fast that wagon moved

yeah it was pretty fast which warrants some level of concern i suppose, but -- like, things have to happen fast given the time frame

In post 451, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Your characterization that I've spent no time trying to pick between you and Raya is unfair - I did re-read what you two have posted and there isn't really much to go on between the two of you.

sure i can understand that -- it's the best out of everything i have to go on and i dont think that your explanation is fully valid, like i think there is a disparity of care that you put into self-preservation compared to scumhunting that isn't fully explained by the circumstances at hand. like, if i had to use varsoon's confidence meter i wouldn't even crack 50% confidence that you're scum & i'd literally vote any of the three non-noms over you

since pretty much nobody is here

In post 451, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:The only read I'm fairly confident in at this point is that Varsoon is town.

is this because of the weird trust tell business

In post 453, hellbooks wrote:sure i can understand that -- it's the best out of everything i have to go on and i dont think that your explanation is fully valid, like i think there is a disparity of care that you put into self-preservation compared to scumhunting that isn't fully explained by the circumstances at hand. like, if i had to use varsoon's confidence meter i wouldn't even crack 50% confidence that you're scum & i'd literally vote any of the three non-noms over you

not sure how you expect me to scumhunt when there's nothing going on lol

ideally there would be things from people that you find are more likely to come from scum

also recognize its frustrating when ppl scumread u for something a predecessor did where u dont have access to that persons thought process but, idk

its just a weird game when i replace in and can't vote for half the players and have to defend the actions of the person who was in this slot before me

In post 450, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:woah look how fast that wagon moved

do you have like, conclusions from this

like do you think i'm scum for starting it? do you think people are scum for switching to it?

fwiw i'm not resigned to voting you

i think it means nobody really knows anything because there's not much content to go on and people don't really care who gets lynched at this point

tbh between everyone I like lynching Dunnstral the best. I don't want to lynch either you or raya - I put you at even with Raya at L-1 because I wanted to put a choice up to Yukino and see what he did because I think that's important information for later down the line.

whatever let's see if I can get this going.

Pooky wagon is kinda bad. Can we not kill obvious town due to apathy?
This just doesn't sit well with me.

why obvious town?

if ppl are gonna throw shade at the wagon can it at least be concrete?

i'll vote dunn but it'll be a compromise on a nullread idk
sorry for introducing so much uncertainty right before the deadline

nah I like that you tried something

more info is always better than nothing

this game is kinda boring if nobody does anything

In post 468, hellbooks wrote:if ppl are gonna throw shade at the wagon can it at least be concrete?

It's built on the basis of "why not" which I think tends to come from a combination of either scum driven or town onto town wagons.
You literally voted him because you don't want to see the other 2 die and are now complaining I don't have a solid reason to shade the wagon?
I don't think you had a solid reason to build the wagon in the first place.

I also do not believe that the interactions with Varsoon are even slightly indicative that Pooky is scum here. Not to mention he replaced into the Koba slot who I also thought was playing like town.

Do you believe it's odd or could be scum indicative that you still can't establish a read onto Dunnstral by now?

based on experience i cant read the guy for shit + hasnt rly been posting all that much. Presumably a dunnstral read will come into existence eventually

personally my reasons arent why not but if they were, well, thats the way it is. Everyones been voting based on why not

In post 470, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:nah I like that you tried something

more info is always better than nothing

this game is kinda boring if nobody does anything

Am i off the deep end for townreading this post