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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:24 am
by esotericzoomer
In post 449, flow trap wrote:
That's fair, it's pretty solid other than a couple of things I'll mention when I feel like it (mostly on salsa), and the fact that I, in my opinion, don't find mind melding to be towny
im just joshin lol
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:24 am
by flow trap
I know that's what you think, I was just thinking out loud
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:27 am
by esotericzoomer
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:33 am
by flow trap
I have a question, is it just because they are the 2 most suspicious?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:33 am
by esotericzoomer
that but also the one interaction they had together seemed really offputting
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:41 am
by flow trap
Personally, I find Enchanted's interactions er... benign
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:02 am
by flow trap
Ok here is the thing I don't agree with
In post 444, esotericzoomer wrote:In post 44, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 38, Enchant wrote:
Yeeaaah.
So i'm not good at game, where main source of info is people yelling on each other.
Dude, you won Newbie 2046 by fooling the town perfectly! If you are not good, don't know who can be!!
Being supportive is always townie.
Being nice is generally a wolf tell from my experience; however, this was early in the game, so I would probably give this a neutral
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:04 am
by esotericzoomer
In post 456, flow trap wrote:Ok here is the thing I don't agree with
In post 444, esotericzoomer wrote:In post 44, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 38, Enchant wrote:
Yeeaaah.
So i'm not good at game, where main source of info is people yelling on each other.
Dude, you won Newbie 2046 by fooling the town perfectly! If you are not good, don't know who can be!!
Being supportive is always townie.
Being nice is generally a wolf tell from my experience; however, this was early in the game, so I would probably give this a neutral
Salsabil is a nulltown for me lol, and besides, these gripes you have with what I called out for her were barely anything more than neutral in the first place, at best getting a +0.5 in my measurement shit
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:18 am
by esotericzoomer
I'm sorry if I'm being really prideful/pretentious here.
Just happy I'm done these couple of hours of work into analyzing the game.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:32 am
by safebet222
Just a note, I started this this morning and there has been a ton of activity. I read through it and it hasn't changed my reads much. Also, I've been a bit busy the last 36 hours and looks like the weekend will also be busy for me.
These are my current reads...
Enchant - I think both his wish to impose new "meta" inconjunction with voting flow trap and not genuinely interacting with him despite flow having the most activity by far is cause for concern. Put that together with his ingenuine attempts at endearing himself to others. He is a current scum read.
Salsabil - Although I think Salsabil could start using the Mafiascum wiki a bit more to learn some of the abbreviations and terminology (I still look at it all the time to decipher some of these people on this site), I think she has been a solid contributor to the game. Her lines of questioning seem genuine and she seems to have a healthy skepticism of certain play styles while keeping an open mind to possibilities and associations. Current town read.
Prism- Looks like he posts less but tries to make them all count. I can relate, I am trying something different this game but I'm not sure I really want to anymore. I tend toward this style myself. So far I like what (he, she,they??) have brought to the game. I especially like how they are trying to pull flow traps ear for being a clown. I fully realize that helpful SE can be scum also, but overall, town read for now.
floo - So far a little lurky but when he is around has brought up some good points, seems to be putting enough effort into the game. I would like to see more reads on folks not named Flow Trap or Esotericzoomer. Town lean.
Spartan - Gonna put Spartan in the group of players that are putting decent effort into trying to sort folks out and bounce ideas off others. I like that they announced their feeling that flow trap vs Salsa was S v. Tand then went about trying to sort flow. So far, leaning town.
Frederick - Besides seeing his response to my vote as genuine, he hasn't done squat. He's been aloof and cryptic. Fred, please contribute something more then this crap, I know you're capable. Null
Flow Trap - Fake as hell. Zero reaction to being put on E-1, elusive, aloof, clownish at times. Anti-town at best, scum trying to flood the thread with fluff at worst. The scum pair table is a joke.
VOTE: flow trap
We might have gotten lucky with the first flash wagon.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:34 am
by safebet222
I plan on elaborating more on my vote, my intentions and what I have learned in the next 24 hours, but I need to cool off. I'm pretty livid and want to give EZ a chance to retract.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:38 am
by fferyllt
Image has been redacted. Please avoid using images that have been judged to be hate symbols on MS.
Thanks!
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:39 am
by esotericzoomer
jfc
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:47 am
by safebet222
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:50 am
by fferyllt
I'm assuming the image was used without an intent to offend. Let's please drop this topic until after the game ends.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:03 pm
by esotericzoomer
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:03 pm
by esotericzoomer
In post 464, fferyllt wrote:I'm assuming the image was used without an intent to offend. Let's please drop this topic until after the game ends.
yes
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:06 pm
by flow trap
In post 459, safebet222 wrote:Flow Trap - Fake as hell. Zero reaction to being put on E-1, elusive, aloof, clownish at times. Anti-town at best, scum trying to flood the thread with fluff at worst. The scum pair table is a joke.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:19 pm
by esotericzoomer
flow trap how do you read fredrick? because im perfectly willing to get him first
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:21 pm
by esotericzoomer
VOTE: Fredrick
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:25 pm
by flow trap
I think his reaction to my fake suspicion was plausible, but you do have a case
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:41 pm
by Enchant
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:05 pm
by Prism
I'm not voting esoteric today.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:13 pm
by Prism
I think Enchant came off a lot better reading realtime-you (Esoteric) seem to be reading in ISO. I wouldn't call him town but a lot of the filler was either relevant or pretty natural posting, ex. joking about lolhammers after expressing caution about them.
I'm really curious about this:
esotericzoomer wrote:In post 415, Enchant wrote:Yes. I said exactly that, not "They probably not maf both, but one of them surely there".
If I'm reading this right and the language barrier isn't fucking this up, Enchant pulls a random "one of them is scum" situation out of his ass, very much disapprove.
-0.5
I called a similar issue out with Spartan in
311 and
421. When asked why it's TvS, he gave more resaoning as to why Salsabil individually was town and flow individually was scum rather than they were diametrically opposed. I don't think you touch on this in your wall. Spartan isn't a bad alternative right now.
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:26 pm
by Enchant
English not my native language as well, so probably should explain this one.
Salsa asked, who i think mafia in Salsa+Zoomer, while i wondered where someone said like there's one for sure. This is answer, because i said "They probably not both mafia" and I DID NOT said "They probably not both mafia, but there's one mafia for sure".
I never said like i think there's 100% mafia in this pair, because i'm not sure in this.
I hope i explained it.