Newbie 2082 - Game Over

[frogsfrogs]

What the hell is going on here? Why did Greeting and catboi align so quickly after catboi claimed VT, as if that couldn't be false?? Igor, what is it you're saying about your track results? Did you see catboi visit someone or not???

i didn't see lol, the jailkeeper targeted me last night so i received no result

OH. Oh. Well

[MafMen]

MafMen: Still think the argument that his first few posts were bad holds water and I haven't actually seen anything from him since that makes me townread. Pushing Val today is dumb and looks like scum grabbing at what they think is a viable train, since he's been controversial.

pushing an easy vote so he must be scum!!!!!! jfc
occam's razor, the simplest answer is likely the correct one

Said in the exact same sentence that I think a Val vote is a bad one ,

plus

the fact that there's maybe enough support to get a lim on him.

"viable train, since hes been controversial"
not about to have this type of shit incriminate me LOL

[catboi]

I entirely hate the direction of where this game is. I don't disagree with the idea of Eliminate All Liars, but I feel like it's the type of mantra (according to the wiki at least) that gets easily abused by scum. Also, I feel like this isn't abnormal that as scum, catboi could be completely lying about not doing anything as well to cover for themselves.

I mean, yes, that's the nature of the game, you have to decide if someone is telling the truth or not.

But for the record, I almost never put myself in a direct CC with the tracker here as scum - if it's in column B, with the doctor, CCing the tracker just makes me confirmed scum and I lose every time. If it's in column A, I'd have roleblocked the tracker every time, and there is no way the tracker would both be alive and have a report. It just doesn't go down this way if I'm scum, period.

[catboi]

What the hell is going on here? Why did Greeting and catboi align so quickly after catboi claimed VT, as if that couldn't be false?? Igor, what is it you're saying about your track results? Did you see catboi visit someone or not???

i didn't see lol, the jailkeeper targeted me last night so i received no result

Great, thanks, you've forced me to out for absolutely no good reason with your completely boneheaded play.

UNVOTE:

[catboi]

catbois reaction was pretty gross though yeah
despite the weird townplay igor has remained uncced this entire game, the immediate jump when you get tested is whack
VOTE: catboi

No, it's not. What other reaction am I supposed to have to someone faking a guilty report on me? This is idiotic.

[catboi]

@implosion idk, i said that to instigate catboi because i think that he is scum and his reaction now just confirms that for me. btw we have a jailkeeper that targeted me, not a doctor, idk how catboi knew that because i said that a doctor targeted me

@catboi wtf, bad idea. why do you want the jailkeeper to CC me instead of the "true" tracker? for me you just want to know who is the jailkeeper because you already know that i'm the tracker

I said that because

I knew you were lying

. Not hard to string this together.

[catboi]

From a town's perspective, if someone is claiming a tracker result on them when they are VT, what is the more likely possibility: that the fae claime is lying scum, or that the seemingly noob player is faking a result as a test? (;¬_ლ)

Further, how the hell am I supposed to react? As scum I'd

know

it was a bluff, and not be worried at all. As town, I have to consider the possibility that igorsprite is simply claiming as a way to get me eliminated.


igorsprite, how much experience do you have playing mafia?

[frogsfrogs]

I understand your post before now, then, Igor. Okay.
Double lying on this one was certainly a play and I'm not sure it was as worth it as you think it is, let alone harming your credibility, but yeah, it provoked some reactions.

[frogsfrogs]

As scum I'd

know

it was a bluff, and not be worried at all.

What do you mean at this part? How do you know it to be a bluff as scum??

[igorsprite]

igorsprite, how much experience do you have playing mafia?

i played 5 or 6 games i guess

[catboi]

Because, were it setup A2, I would have the roleblocker on the tracker, and the goon would kill either the tracker or [secret PR read]. I would know, no matter what, that the tracker could not have a legitimate report on me. Therefore I would have basically no cause for concern whatsoever.

[catboi]

igorsprite, how much experience do you have playing mafia?

i played 5 or 6 games i guess

5 or 6 games, where? Where did you get the idea for these reaction test shenanigans you just pulled?

[Micc]

Votecount 2.03

catboi (2) -

igorsprite, MafMen

igorsprite (1) -

Greeting

Not Voting (5) -

Val89, frogsfrogs, StrangeMatter, implosion, catboi

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2021-11-13 11:05:00).

[MafMen]

catbois reaction was pretty gross though yeah
despite the weird townplay igor has remained uncced this entire game, the immediate jump when you get tested is whack
VOTE: catboi

No, it's not. What other reaction am I supposed to have to someone faking a guilty report on me? This is idiotic.

defensiveness? sure
biting the bait and immediately scumreading him? probably not

[MafMen]

you know what greeting also looks horrible here
he used igors bait to back up whatever nonsense doubt he had on igors claim

[implosion]

igor these kind of plays will lose a lot more games than they will win games. They'll also piss off a lot more people than they will win games.

I'm busy for a while today but will have a lot more to say later.

[igorsprite]

igorsprite, how much experience do you have playing mafia?

i played 5 or 6 games i guess

5 or 6 games, where? Where did you get the idea for these reaction test shenanigans you just pulled?

osu. about the idea idk, it's something that i like to do when i'm confirmed town, and my playstyle is pretty anti-town

[igorsprite]

igor these kind of plays will lose a lot more games than they will win games. They'll also piss off a lot more people than they will win games.

I'm busy for a while today but will have a lot more to say later.

we will win this game i'm pretty sure

[StrangeMatter]

Here's a question for Greeting, why do you not trust igorsprite's tracker claim exactly? Because I feel like a lot of the logic makes it hard to assume that.

[catboi]

igorsprite, how much experience do you have playing mafia?

i played 5 or 6 games i guess

5 or 6 games, where? Where did you get the idea for these reaction test shenanigans you just pulled?

osu. about the idea idk, it's something that i like to do when i'm confirmed town, and my playstyle is pretty anti-town

What does "osu" refer to?

I ask because there is significant dissonance between your day 1 act of "i'm a noob, idk what i'm doing" and you pulling this test today, as that's a more advanced play than i'd expect from a newbie, which makes me think you're faking being a noob to gain an advantage ingame, which would be very suspicious. You're decidedly not clear, which is why I'm bothering to pursue this line of questioning at all.

[igorsprite]

igorsprite, how much experience do you have playing mafia?

i played 5 or 6 games i guess

5 or 6 games, where? Where did you get the idea for these reaction test shenanigans you just pulled?

osu. about the idea idk, it's something that i like to do when i'm confirmed town, and my playstyle is pretty anti-town

What does "osu" refer to?

I ask because there is significant dissonance between your day 1 act of "i'm a noob, idk what i'm doing" and you pulling this test today, as that's a more advanced play than i'd expect from a newbie, which makes me think you're faking being a noob to gain an advantage ingame, which would be very suspicious. You're decidedly not clear, which is why I'm bothering to pursue this line of questioning at all.

https://osu.ppy.sh/home
But i'm noob, idk how to play as town, so i just roleplay as chaotic neutral and get my reads by feeling because it's fun

But hey i'm here to learn

[catboi]

Okay. I'll pack away my tinfoil for now and take what you say at face value. I'm still extremely annoyed at how this has all unfolded but just have to move on at this point. I should probably just step away from the game for tonight since I'm too tilted to respond properly. (⁎˃ᆺ˂)

[frogsfrogs]

Here's a question for Greeting, why do you not trust igorsprite's tracker claim exactly? Because I feel like a lot of the logic makes it hard to assume that.

Super agree. I'm really confused as to how greeting thought catboi was the more verified claim when Igor claimed to have caught them in an action.

[igorsprite]

Okay. I'll pack away my tinfoil for now and take what you say at face value. I'm still extremely annoyed at how this has all unfolded but just have to move on at this point. I should probably just step away from the game for tonight since I'm too tilted to respond properly. (⁎˃ᆺ˂)

[frogsfrogs]

Hey, chill out :T Whatever you think of them in the game, don't be rude please