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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:35 pm
by pieguyn
Jaqen what were you going to say about bubba

or are you still waiting

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:12 am
by Jaqen Hghar
A man looked at bubba and came up serial killer. At the same time a man is wary of results when he's such an obvious target for night actions.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:38 am
by Katarina LeBlanc
You know, I admit that I sidetracked a bit during the previous day and wasn't really contributing but I'm pretty sure muffin should be the only one we should lynch today.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:44 am
by pieguyn
In post 3903, Messiah Complex wrote:I really want Bubba dead. Can we do that?

- Des
and ofc Jiffy was really into bubba

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:08 am
by pieguyn
tbh I actually believe zmuffin for now. I kind of feel like looking elsewhere atm

vote: bubba


here's an exercise

Nachomamma8 <- Merlin, motivator

pieguyn <- Koishi, mason encryptor

GoodCop_BadCop <- Tenshi, bulletproof
Saki <- Eirin, VT
Sakura Hana <- Yuuka, VT
Mac <- Sanae, doc

Varsoon <- Tewi, 1-shot redirector
bubbajack8 <- Okuu, bomb (SK?)
zMuffinMan <- Aya, 2-shot tracker
Jaqen Hghar <- Patchouli, IC

Katarina LeBlanc <- Yuyuko, oracle

ActionDan <- Remilia, 2-shot kill cop

DisCode <- Nitori, inventor


bold are the ones that are practically confirmed town. Mac included bc Kagami was macho, and Dan for getting a guilty on COK. italics are the ones where the role is confirmed but we don't know if they're really town or not

Kise/DisCode is pretty damn town. Nacho is in no way confirmed and it's possible GIF put a mafia motivator just to fuck with people (a scum role that is exclusively for getting towncred)
  1. SXTLHGaiden,
    Reimu Hakurei (
    Bad 1-shot Strongarm Encrypting Girl
    )
    , sent to gap Day 1.
  2. Serene,
    Satori Komeiji (
    Good Mason 2-shot Rolecopping Girl
    )
    , sent to gap Night 1.
  3. Kazekirimaru,
    Youmu Konpaku (
    Good Girl
    )
    , sent to gap Night 1.
  4. The Chamber of Kittens,
    Sakuya Izayoi (
    Bad Ninja Girl
    )
    , sent to gap Day 2.
  5. Lush Life,
    Shikieiki Yamaxanadu (
    Good Odd-Night Cop Girl
    )
    , went to gap Night 2.
  6. dramonic,
    Byakuren Hijiri (
    Good Girl
    )
    , sent to gap Day 3.
  7. Kagami,
    Hong Meiling (
    Good Gatekeeping Girl
    )
    , sent to gap Night 3.
  8. Messiah Complex,
    Marisa Kirisame (
    Good Stealing Girl
    )
    , sent to gap Night 3.
so, from roles alone:

TOWN: Me, Mac, Dan, Jaqen, Discode, Katarina

leaving 3 scum + SK inthe following assuming 15-5-1:
Nachomamma8
GCBC
Saki
Sakura Hana
Varsoon
bubbajack8
zMuffinMan

so, assuming these reads are right and bubba is actually SK, all we need is one more townread from here and it's autowin

as for teams, I could buy smth like {GCBC, zmuffin} + 2 of Sakura, Saki, Nacho

what does everyone think?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:21 am
by pieguyn
also I would feel comfortable with upgrading Varsoon but

1. the only 1-shot role that flipped was a scum role. and a 1-shot redirect doesn't really do much in terms of town power and makes more sense as a scum role
2. we all know what happened last time we "cleared" Varsoon in a plan like this :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:28 am
by pieguyn
oh and for all you naive people pushing 16-4-1, the math doesn't change with one less scum. we still need to upgrade another person for this to be autowin

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:32 am
by Katarina LeBlanc
GCBC hardcore bussing Muffin? Is that even a thing

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:44 am
by pieguyn
that means one of zmuffin or GCBC

however that is a possibility even though I really really hope it's not the case

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:50 am
by pieguyn
>Varsoon (L-2):
ActionDan
|
Serene
|
dramonic
|
Lush Life
|
Mac
|
pieguyn
| GoodCop_BadCop |
The Chamber of Kittens

bubbajack8 (L-7): Messiah Complex | Kise | SXTLHGaiden | Tsukasa
GoodCop_BadCop (L-10): Jaqen Hghar
Messiah Complex (L-10): Amaranth
Tsukasa (L-10): zMuffinman
SXTLHGaiden (L-8): Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami
Kise (L-10): bubbajack8
dramonic (L-10): Varsoon

Not Voting: Saki

-------------------------------

SXTLHGaiden
(L-3):
Kazekirimaru
| Katerina LeBlanc |
Kagami
|
Messiah Complex
| zMuffinman | bubbajack8 |
Serene
| Saki :left: Lynched
Varsoon (L-4):
ActionDan
|
dramonic
|
Mac
|
Lush Life
| GoodCop_BadCop |
The Chamber of Kittens
| Varsoon
bubbajack8 (L-8): Kise | SXTLHGaiden | Tsukasa
Action Dan (L-10): pieguyn
Messiah Complex (L-10): Amaranth
GoodCop_BadCop (L-10): Jaqen Hghar

Not Voting:

light green = pseudo-conftowns
we can't tell jack and shit from this. both Gaiden and Sakura-slot were on a counterwagon to both of them and we can't tell if Gaiden was scum driven or not. while it's very likely Varsoon is town and GCBC is scum, it's not enough to confirm anything

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:36 am
by ActionDan
Picking up prod been busy

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:57 am
by Jaqen Hghar
In post 4509, pieguyn wrote:>Varsoon (L-2):
ActionDan
|
Serene
|
dramonic
|
Lush Life
|
Mac
|
pieguyn
| GoodCop_BadCop |
The Chamber of Kittens


while it's very likely Varsoon is town and GCBC is scum, it's not enough to confirm anything
A man would think there to be more than one red on a D1 wagon so near to lynch.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:00 am
by ActionDan
VOTE: gcbc

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:05 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 4504, pieguyn wrote:bold are the ones that are practically confirmed town. Mac included bc Kagami was macho
If you're doing this then why isn't a Ninja a way to confirm the existence of a tracker?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:06 am
by Varsoon
In post 4475, zMuffinMan wrote:what happened, dandy? you used to be cool

(and the "evidence" is flawed for several reasons) (all of which i've gone over several times) (plus i'm town)
I'm always cool. :D
On the real, eh, if you're scum, then I lost this time.

VOTE: bubba

Where is bubba?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:09 am
by Sakura Hana
Also yes i'll go here then
Unvote
Vote: Bubba

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:12 am
by Jaqen Hghar
Happy scumday V.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:15 am
by Varsoon
Thanks bro. :3

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:22 am
by Saki
In post 4482, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4426, Saki wrote:
In post 4421, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4414, Saki wrote:
In post 4413, Saki wrote:VOTE: GoodCop_BadCop
^ not going to move btw
Why not?
Why should it move?
That's not quite what I asked.
Not moving it because I think he's scum.

:/

What else do you expect?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:26 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 4518, Saki wrote:Not moving it because I think he's scum.

:/

What else do you expect?
To explain why for starters.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:33 am
by pieguyn
In post 4513, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4504, pieguyn wrote:bold are the ones that are practically confirmed town. Mac included bc Kagami was macho
If you're doing this then why isn't a Ninja a way to confirm the existence of a tracker?
bc I keep thinking zmuffin might be scum. stooooooop making me paranoid :cry:

happy scumday Varsoon ^.^

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:34 am
by Saki
yoooo varsoon happy scumday

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:36 am
by Saki
In post 4519, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4518, Saki wrote:Not moving it because I think he's scum.

:/

What else do you expect?
To explain why for starters.
explanations are so last year

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:38 am
by pieguyn
not only that but ninja doesn't necessarily imply tracker. I could see GIF doing scum ninja + scum tracker to fuck with people. however, Kagami's macho explicitly serves the purpose of disallowing chained protections (Mac on Kagami, Kagami on xxx)

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:38 am
by pieguyn
hey Cabd get in here and talk to me about this autowin plan bc I know you liek autowin plans