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But basically the mafia in GIF's game were

Goon- basic mafia no powers 4 u

Neapolitan- u can find out who's VT and who's not, but u don't getto know what stacked role i gave them

Commuter- u can survive the vig kill twice.

Jailkeeper- u can block the vig from killing u. (actually if the mafia blocked the vig in this game it might've won town the game given how many misshots the vig took lol).

Looks like this game is heavy on investigatives while his game was heavy on protectives.

but two goons might be weak but then again with fire's role it makes it for goon to easily claim VT so i dunno. i've never made it far enough into a game where i had to setup spec legitimately. i usually get lynched or I was the mafia who already knows the setup lol.

If kdowns or Cephrir is scum, that means were pushing on DS at the start of the game.

Last scum is probably Zulfy or Bro. I could see Bro and Gamma both claiming JOAT and hoping one of them is cleared when the other flips. How else is the last scum supposed to survive? [Grib, Transcend, Firebringer, Magna] are all not getting lynched, and Snowstorm is ~probably the designated mislynch.

I'd lynch one and vig the other, after Bro fullclaims.

last scum is probably a pr......

oh im not saying that last scum is in the claimed prs i mean that the last scum has a power role, ie isn't a goon.

In post 4473, Transcend wrote:Fire, BRO, Cephrir and Grib need to full claim I believe.

Other 2 shots are bodyguard and messenger, both unused.

The message has to be exactly 200 characters, and the mods said they'd count.

Tbh I'll probably use the BG tonight, since my PR is the shittiest one left.

In post 4495, Transcend wrote:Medical and Waco were pretty weak.

I mean.

My JOAT shots are pretty weak as well, and 4/14 requires town to have somewhat more powerful PRs in aggregate than scum.

In post 4499, Transcend wrote:so if all prs are town and Snow is scum it's

2 cops/joat with voyeur and 2 other powers/vig/commuterizer/1sFN/Visitor vs. 2 goons/Tracker cop hybrid???/1-shot encryptor

To me this looks kinda like a weak mafia. But I also kinda think the mafia in GIF's game was weak. (The freaking goon of all roles survives multiple mislynches and wins the game).

Most people have a scum-sided intuition of balance. a 4/14 mountainous game, for instance, is a scum win the vast, vast, vast majority of the time. You need town to have substantially more powerful PRs.

Grib why do you suppose me as mafia?

In post 4502, Grib wrote:If kdowns or Cephrir is scum, that means three out of ~four mafia were pushing on DS at the start of the game.

you are not allowed to clear me on VCA either

In post 4507, BROseidon wrote:

In post 4499, Transcend wrote:so if all prs are town and Snow is scum it's

2 cops/joat with voyeur and 2 other powers/vig/commuterizer/1sFN/Visitor vs. 2 goons/Tracker cop hybrid???/1-shot encryptor

To me this looks kinda like a weak mafia. But I also kinda think the mafia in GIF's game was weak. (The freaking goon of all roles survives multiple mislynches and wins the game).

Most people have a scum-sided intuition of balance. a 4/14 mountainous game, for instance, is a scum win the vast, vast, vast majority of the time. You need town to have substantially more powerful PRs.

This is extremely true!

Will take your word for it.

Because all my readings conclude to a snow mafia.

In post 4508, Zulfy wrote:Grib why do you suppose me as mafia?

If I say VCA, Ceph might spontaneously combust.

I'll probably reread things at some point tho.

In post 4509, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4502, Grib wrote:If kdowns or Cephrir is scum, that means three out of ~four mafia were pushing on DS at the start of the game.

you are not allowed to clear me on VCA either

And I do already think you're town outside of votes, so. They just make me feel slightly better about it than not.

In post 4489, Firebringer wrote:I am Cassie from Dragon Tales, a Odd Night Role Cop.
Night 1 Spiffeh, Night 3 was Snowstorm.
Both vanilla.

You confirmed kdown's claim and you kept going after me?...

Cephrir has one of the worst voting histories in this game.

voting histories being "bad" is a nonexistant thing that was made up. it is not possible for them to be bad unless they mismatch with a player's stated reads

FB's role makes sense as scum too imo.

I'm still V/LA but a couple of things I want to say -

I believe having everyone in Ceph / Firebringer / Snowstorm / Zulfy dead locks the game for Town. Transcend isn't a Serial Killer and the fact that Snowstorm and Firebringer keep bringing it up is suspect. Zulfy is the one I want dead last as I've had a Town read on that slot but need to re-read farside

Bro should absolutely Bodyguard Transcend tonight. If I were to protect him he couldn't get a shot off. This way we can run through the list of 4 in at worst 2 to 3 lynches.

Firebringer's claim stares at me in the face as by far the worst. The claimed RoleCop's make no sense IMO. Day 2's supposed gambit makes no sense from an actual investigation role who confirmed that Spiffeh's slot wasn't lying about being Vanilla (or a Goon). And the Night 3 investigation is terrible given he could have confirmed the role of any of Gamma (which would have been a guilty given his fake-claim), Bro or myself instead of another convienent "Vanilla" investigation. The claim also seems at odds in how it was constructed compared to Grib's claim (but that's MOD WIFOM so it is the least strong of my reasons for suspicion).

I personally don't have any sort of Town read on Firebringer given his lackluster play and claim. Transcend do you have any specific reason why you Town read him so strongly.

Again I need, when I have solid time, to re-read a number of things from the previous Days and to re-read farside's ISO. Not voting until then.

I also need to look at the claims in full.
who in my group of 4 dead would you feel least comfortable shooting?

In post 4517, Cephrir wrote:voting histories being "bad" is a nonexistant thing that was made up. it is not possible for them to be bad unless they mismatch with a player's stated reads

FB's role makes sense as scum too imo.

If the reads are bad, the votes are bad. If the bad reads and bad votes have contributed to several mislynches, that's too bad.

Wrong does not equal scum.

Firebringer is a pretty strong candidate for final scum and we should probably lynch him.

In post 4518, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I personally don't have any sort of Town read on Firebringer given his lackluster play and claim. Tra

What the fuck is this?

it looks like an opinion to me

Magna why would I check someone I am townreading to confirm their role? If I did that you would be up here saying me checking a town read makes no sense.

No, manga isn't this bad....

In post 4522, Cephrir wrote:it looks like an opinion to me

It's pretty annoying coming from him. But far from the norm.