Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[PenguinPower]

I'll vote in 36 minutes.

[Something_Smart]

Lies.

[Something_Smart]

Sorry for neglecting this game.

My towncase is pretty straightforward: it requires a lot of assumptions to say that I'm scum here. You'd have to assume that I hard defended the guy I thought was SK and then doubled back and pushed him when I found out he was not SK and therefore not a threat to me. You'd have to assume that lilith and I both remained noncommittal about each other as we were getting wagoned, to the point where I, the PR, was about to be hammered and still didn't even bus her or make any effort to shift the wagon to her-- while our other partner is also passively bussing me for essentially no reason. You'd also have to assume that I chose to claim VT at the point where it seemed pretty likely I would die unless I claimed a PR. If I'm scum, what was our endgame plan on D2? If I got lynched, then the PR would be down, and it's not like lilith would look better-- she'd look worse for defending me, and we'd be counting on Firebringer who was pretty widely scumread to endgame.

Meanwhile for PP to be scum, you have to assume... that he was good at acting genuine. PP's voting history is pretty much exactly what I was expecting in the case lilith was scum, and I said as much-- she was probably being bussed, but weakly, in the hopes that my wagon would go through despite the bussing.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: S_S

Sorry - got called into a meeting.

[Something_Smart]

Oops, forgot the right terminology there, mb.

VOTE: PP

[Bingle]

My LYLO philosophy tells me to vote SS, but my head tells me to vote PP.

[PenguinPower]

she was probably being bussed, but weakly, in the hopes that my wagon would go through despite the bussing.

You were at one vote along with three others while I was "bussing."

[Something_Smart]

Eh? This was right after your vote.

VOTE COUNT 2.4

lilith2013 [4]:

Menalque [2433], Blake Belladonna [2720], MariaR [2893], PenguinPower [2924]

-- [L-2]

Something_Smart [4]:

skitter30 [2389], Firebringer [2424], Bingle [2740], Almost50 [2887]

-- [L-2]

Not Voting [3]:

Something_Smart, lilith2013, Datisi [2806]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

[PenguinPower]

VOTE COUNT 2.4

lilith2013 [4]:

Menalque [2433], Blake Belladonna [2720], MariaR [2893], PenguinPower [2924]

-- [L-2]

Something_Smart [4]:

skitter30 [2389], Firebringer [2424], Bingle [2740], Almost50 [2887]

-- [L-2]

Not Voting [3]:

Something_Smart, lilith2013, Datisi [2806]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

VOTE COUNT 2.6

MariaR [3]:

skitter30 [3099], Almost50 [3111], Datisi [3113]

lilith2013 [2]:

MariaR [2893], PenguinPower [2924]

Something_Smart [2]:

Firebringer [2424], Bingle [2740]

Firebringer [1]:

Blake Belladonna [3118]

Not Voting [3]:

Something_Smart, lilith2013, Menalque [3060]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

Why did you have Lilith as a town read, SS?

VOTE COUNT 2.7

MariaR [4]:

skitter30 [3099], Almost50 [3111], Datisi [3113], Menalque [3187]

-- [L-2]

lilith2013 [2]:

MariaR [2893], PenguinPower [2924]

Something_Smart [2]:

Firebringer [2424], Bingle [2740]

Firebringer [1]:

Blake Belladonna [3118]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Not Voting [1]:

Something_Smart

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

Huh. I don’t see aimless and all over the place.

I don’t think that’s a defense tbh. Everyone gets wagoned.

I don’t think that’s a defense tbh. Everyone gets wagoned.

What would be a defense of? Do you think her lurking here is scummy?

I think her overall play has been scummy, yes, which is why I’m voting her.

Just listen to the wind and it will tell you who to vote. Listen carefully.

lilith

VOTE COUNT 2.7

MariaR [4]:

skitter30 [3099], Almost50 [3111], Datisi [3113], Menalque [3187]

-- [L-2]

lilith2013 [2]:

MariaR [2893], PenguinPower [2924]

Something_Smart [2]:

Firebringer [2424], Bingle [2740]

Firebringer [1]:

Blake Belladonna [3118]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Not Voting [1]:

Something_Smart

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

lilith

lilith

@mod: v/la through Sunday

VOTE COUNT 2.8

MariaR [4]:

Almost50 [3111], Datisi [3113], Menalque [3187], Bingle [3266]

-- [L-2]

lilith2013 [2]:

MariaR [2893], PenguinPower [2924]

Bingle [2]:

skitter30 [3209], Blake Belladonna [3210]

Something_Smart [1]:

Firebringer [2424]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Not Voting [1]:

Something_Smart

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays
PenguinPower v/la through Sunday
Firebringer v/la through Sunday

lilith

biiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggglllllllllleeeeeee

lilith

VOTE COUNT 2.9

MariaR [4]:

Almost50 [3111], Datisi [3113], Menalque [3187], Bingle [3266]

-- [L-2]

lilith2013 [3]:

PenguinPower [2924], Blake Belladonna [3269], MariaR [3303]

Bingle [1]:

skitter30 [3209]

Something_Smart [1]:

Firebringer [2424]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Not Voting [1]:

Something_Smart

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 v/la until she feels better + regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays
PenguinPower v/la through Sunday
Firebringer v/la through Sunday
Datisi v/la through Sunday

VOTE COUNT 2.10

lilith2013 [5]:

PenguinPower [2924], Blake Belladonna [3269], MariaR [3303], Almost50 [3445], skitter30 [3465]

— [L-1]

MariaR [2]:

Datisi [3113], Menalque [3187]

Something_Smart [1]:

Firebringer [2424]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Not Voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Bingle [3457]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 v/la until she feels better + regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

VOTE COUNT 2.11

lilith2013 [4]:

PenguinPower [2924], MariaR [3303], Almost50 [3445], Menalque [3490]

— [L-2]

MariaR [1]:

Datisi [3113]

Something_Smart [1]:

Firebringer [2424]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Firebringer [1]:

Blake Belladonna [3489]

Not Voting [3]:

Something_Smart, Bingle [3457], skitter30 [3493]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 v/la until she feels better + regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

lilith

VOTE COUNT 2.FINAL

lilith2013 [6]:

PenguinPower [2924], MariaR [3303], Almost50 [3445], Bingle [3584], Firebringer [3620], Menalque [3621]

— HAMMER

MariaR [1]:

Datisi [3113]

Blake Belladonna [1]:

lilith2013 [3184]

Firebringer [1]:

Blake Belladonna [3489]

Not Voting [2]:

Something_Smart, skitter30 [3493]

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to hammer.
Day 2 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-30 01:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 v/la until she feels better + regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

[PenguinPower]

Ooops - forgot spoiler tags.

[Something_Smart]

Sure, but I'm looking at the circumstances when you voted. I'm not saying that you were hoping I was gonna be hammered the entire time you were on lilith; just when she and I were the big wagons. After that it could have just been keeping it up to try to get towncred or look consistent. (And if you backed off of lilith and she died anyway that would look terrible, of course.)

[PenguinPower]

lol - if I was scum trying to get towncred I wouldn't just whisper lillith and would actually do something with which to get credit...

There were plenty of opportunities for me to hop off - namely when I was the only one on...

[PenguinPower]

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 5.1

Something_Smart [1]:

PenguinPower [4503]

PenguinPower [1]:

Something_Smart [4504]

Not Voting [2]:

Bingle, MariaR

With

4

alive, it takes

3

to hammer.
Day 5 ends in

(expired on 2020-07-19 12:45:00)

Game Notes:

Prodded MariaR

[Bingle]

Not sorry for neglecting this game, tbh.

Maria, come talk to me.

[MariaR]

What's up Bingle my man. I'm around, I heavily want to vote S_S but lmk if you're around so I can just clear you so if you're scum we can get it over with

[Bingle]

I'm around ish.

[Bingle]

I'm not going to try to convince you it's PP over SS, because honestly I just don't have a clue. I'd probably end up voting PP here if it was solely my decision, but that's mostly because SS has a playstyle advantage in convincing me, I think.

Both of them don't really make sense as the last scum from my POV, but I know one of them has to be. I'm willing to gamble on you being right given the lack of strong feelings over here.

[MariaR]

Weeee

[MariaR]

I can go over it again if you want if you think it'll help but I'd like to hear why you think it's PP

[Bingle]

I don't. That's the problem. I don't scumread either of them, and honestly I won't feel bad if we lose to either of them.

[Bingle]

And unless your reason for sr-ing SS is something more direct than PP being town, I don't think I'm going to get anything from it, tbh.

[PenguinPower]

I’m going to burninate you if you’re scum, Bingle.

[PenguinPower]

Mena too. I will raise him from the dead and then burninate him again.

[MariaR]

Sigh ok I'll take the flame if I'm wrong
VOTE: S_S