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In post 4498, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:but as town you wouldn't feel motivated to tip the scales?

In post 3476, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3474, Raven Branwen wrote:

In post 3473, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3464, Datisi wrote:deadass my biggest fear rn is us executing dsjstr, him flipping scum, pooky making up some arguments about "oh i was right on the game state dsj was actually scum" and y'all believe him and town ends up losing

pedit: skitt no this isn't the scum PT

im actually pretty worried dsj is town here

Then who is scum, then?

lets say i am lynched today.

assuming tw dies in the night and flips bg and someone else confirms skitter as FM tommorrow, then I think the scum would be SS/Raven in the endgame.

if tw doesnt die and skitter dies- I think there is a strong chance tw/SS are the scum.

if datisi dies and tw lives - I also think it would be tw/SS as scum but this is the hardest scenario imo.

In post 4500, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4498, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:but as town you wouldn't feel motivated to tip the scales?

nope. I'll answer any questions skitter wants, but otherwise I'll let her do her own thing because I believe she's competent enough to come to the correct conclusion.

In post 4505, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:so basically you will coast because you think skitter is leaning towards voting Pooky out and you want to do your best not to rock the boat by pretending you aren't even here.

Scum-Lurker tactic - let the town hang themselves

In post 4506, Something_Smart wrote:Oh, that's weird then. If those were just your reads full stop, then wouldn't you be very confident dsjstr was town, rather than "pretty worried" he was town?

In post 4507, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4505, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:so basically you will coast because you think skitter is leaning towards voting Pooky out and you want to do your best not to rock the boat by pretending you aren't even here.

Scum-Lurker tactic - let the town hang themselves

Yes. Also Town-Lurker tactic - let the town hang the scum.

In post 4456, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4449, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like your play this game has been so lazy and sloppy that you have managed to melt away any goodwill/town-iness that Koba built up and your default response seems to be "WELL LOOK AT HOW TOWNY KOBA WAS"

GUESS WHAT KOBA ISNT FUCKING PLAYING THIS GAME ANYMORE YOU ARE

I don't understand what this is supposed to prove? Koba and I share the same role PM. Koba's ISO is and always has been towny, and it will always continue to be.

This is just a fancy way for you to say that I've been scummy without any evidence.

Raven wrote:

I liked koba too initially but I was convinced that Ank was locktown in a game where she flipped scum

In post 4460, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:because he has absolute confidence in his solve and he doesn't even care about the possibility he could be wrong

In post 4462, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4458, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if someone plays really townie for half a day that doesn't mean it lasts for the rest of the game - you have to keep playing townie to look townie

no???

the definition of towny is above average likelihood to be town. if someone plays above average likelihood to be town for a bit, and then plays average likelihood to be town... they are still above average likelihood to be town, albeit less so.

If someone plays EXTREMELY above average likelihood to be town, even for a very short duration, they will still be extremely above average likelihood to be town for the whole game, unless they do something extremely below average likelihood to be town. I can demonstrate the math here, if you actually care.

In post 4482, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4479, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Now instead of doing the "figure something out" part- you've gone back to "we need to lynch Pooky/Raven"

Which means your response was full of shit to begin with

Datisi changed his mind on Raven. That is one of the main things that caused my view of the game to come into focus.

If he hadn't done that, I'd probably be pushing him, but I would be torn between him and ducky.

In post 4484, Something_Smart wrote:

You both are speaking essentially in unison today.

You are pulling whatever you can out of my ISO and assigning it scum motivation without actually analyzing it, and you're shooting down whatever I say and trying to gaslight me by suggesting that my arguments are insane. You're ignoring the evidence I have given of decision making and insisting that you actually know what I did or didn't think about. You both have expressed a token suspicion on the other but ultimately decided that I was the right one to kill.

This is not at all a cooperative mindset. This is adversarial. This method of twisting the facts could be confirmation bias-- but confirmation bias rarely manifests itself in such a sudden (neither of you were remotely tunneled on me before today) or coordinated (you both are doing this in exactly the same way at exactly the same time) manner.

Meanwhile I have basically sat here and taken it, trying to deflect and break down your arguments while engaging the people I trust and trying to get on the same page as them (and get them on the same page as each other). I haven't really presented any arguments of my own, because I don't necessarily think that what I can produce is more meaningful than what they can produce, and whatever case they make will certainly be more meaningful to them.

In post 4519, Raven Branwen wrote:SS claim: Raven is pretty decent as scum.

Also SS claim: Scum!Raven is clearly a moron who is trying to set herself up to gamethrow. Which one is it SS? Am I decent at scum or am I a suicidal gamethrowing moron?

You can’t have it both ways.