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Post Post #4500 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:02 pm

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Pregame because I was bored and wanted something fun to do

I wanted the ability as either alignment to meme about not being able to be elimmed even though all I was doing was poetry

But then I really started to like the poems and got super committed into not messing it up
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Post Post #4501 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:04 pm

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So completely unrelated to the Troubadour role in Etrian Oddesy?

You know, the title which literally means "warndering poet"
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Post Post #4502 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:05 pm

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I’d like to think if I were scum I would have dropped it off sooner but at the same time it let me fly relatively under the radar despite the salty votes on me so meh

I wouldn’t have enjoyed it as much as scum I don’t think

And no, I’m not that thing. I’m too much a straight shooter to be wandering.

Kinda just pulled the bow back and let it go. Then dealt with the aftermath
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Post Post #4503 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:24 pm

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i actually don't like Dunn's reaction to NM now that i look at it. "doublevoter that someone got to name" is wrong obviously, but the assumption that a player named it and it wasn't just a predetermined name from unwnd is actually correct. he could just be town who guessed right, but the focus on NM could be distancing.

i've been thinking about Dunn and his read on me, he seems pretty confident with how i'd approach a partner, and he isn't wrong, but the read kind of sticks out when i'm here accruing scumreads and Dunn then has a correct townread on me he's confident in. at least it contrasts Fark's read on the same topic where he came in thinking i wasn't scum but then became suspicious from other events.

ngl i'm extremely demotivated because i feel like a bunch of town are going to attack me tonight.
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Post Post #4504 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:39 pm

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I won't dw.

But that seems like a weird thing to worry about
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Post Post #4505 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:40 pm

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I’m probably going to bed soon. I’ll be around some tomorrow morning.
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Post Post #4506 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:41 pm

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I liked that analysis of the n_m interaction.
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Post Post #4507 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:42 pm

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i think i prefer Ircher over a murdercat elim at this moment. murdercat's posts are hitting better and Ircher's are not. but i still like Flea most for scum. Dunn is a point of concern wrt the above but i'd appreciate feedback because he's also one of the few players that townreads me.

i still townread Fark and Titus both but it's with the energy where i expect to be proven wrong.
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Post Post #4508 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:43 pm

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@ns What I'm missing is an coherent understanding of who you want to yeet and who you don't want to yeet. There's surely more to it than just reactions to N_M.
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Post Post #4509 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:44 pm

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In post 4504, Thestatusquo wrote:I won't dw.

But that seems like a weird thing to worry about
i already got attacked last night. it's weird to think more will do that tonight when i'm getting more scumreads? scum aren't going to waste any resources on me.
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Post Post #4510 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:49 pm

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I guess what I'm confused about re: this line of conversation chara is that it seems disproportionate with the amount of actual being scum read that is happening to you? Like there's this series of posts and then the above post where you say something to the effect of "this is one of the few people who tr me" when I don't think anyone is voting you? You said yourself that you tend to play to a very similar place both as scum as town so it seems like it would be something you'd be used to, no?
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Post Post #4511 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:51 pm

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Like clearly you're AtEing here and it seems vaguely manipulative and I can't decide if that's a townie thing to do or a scummy thing to do when you have actual 0 votes on you.
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Post Post #4512 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:00 pm

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i don't think i'm getting miselimed. i think i'm going to get killed at night just from getting suspicion because the players who suspect me also don't think i'm very elimmable and/or have other players they suspect more.

it's stupid, but i like being townread and when i'm not, especially by players i townread and i feel like i'm on the wrong track with my own play and reads.

being used to something wouldn't make me enjoy it more, but besides that, no, as both alignments i'm usually in a more positive place in terms of reads on me, and i think i take it a little better as scum since it means i need to work harder to be townread. as town it means i need to... play better, but that's not a very easy thing to just do.

and i recognize that it's a pretty self-centered way of looking at the game, so i'm trying not to dwell, but you asked so i figure i'd try to explain.

pedit: half of me wants to say the votes don't matter when afaik most players can do HP damage at night, and the other half is realizing that i am AtEing and should stop.
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Post Post #4513 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:01 pm

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In post 4508, Thestatusquo wrote:@ns What I'm missing is an coherent understanding of who you want to yeet and who you don't want to yeet. There's surely more to it than just reactions to N_M.
It kinda lines up with that

Essentially I won’t vote
Morph seems town, even in tenet Cabd was kinda pinging me
Bell is town bc engagement levels and interaction with the thread
Wheme is town for that awful wagon on them and their not maf interactions and their claimed result today is too wacky for scum
Mara is town for the way she originally handled being called out for stealing the SP, for her stupid gambit today and the way she approached notmaf was townie
You- I like your stance re me and your interactions with notmaf
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I liked sigmunds not maf take plus their claim will sort them for me and I can be lazy
My inner mena is telling me Guillo is probably town as well

Math is forgettable
I don’t remember anything from chara or farkran all game
I’m giving Titus space for now.

Ircher has not impressed me and his read on me has been lazy at best
MCat has had some of the worst takes in the whole game

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Post Post #4514 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:03 pm

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The enter lines divide tiers if that’s not clear
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Post Post #4515 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:04 pm

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I want to call dunn town but he’s not a lock

I’m weirded out by high activity SS

I liked fire when reading through but don’t like his notmaf interactions
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Post Post #4516 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:06 pm

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That sure is a town notscience.
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Post Post #4517 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:08 pm

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tbh i think notsci's calling my reaction to NM scummy is what did it, i think that's a load of nothing, i think the Titus analysis in that post is nothing, the Dunn one isn't nothing but i kinda disagree with it, the Sigmund conclusion looks nothing short of a completely arbitrary sort between town and scum based on the analysis, and the conclusion on Farkran also just seems totally wrong and very arbitrary in deciding what's a nothing post and what's a clueless post. like i see no difference in terms of knowledge shown between Fark's and Bell's initial reaction to NM.

i can agree that's Wheme's reaction in particular was super towny.
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Post Post #4518 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:10 pm

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How can you get any reads from the not mafia fake slot I am so confused

Anyways LLD am I still voting murdercat
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Post Post #4519 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:11 pm

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scum knew about NM being a thing because it was from anya, town didn't.
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Post Post #4520 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:12 pm

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Farkrans post was not 1500 posts after notmafia happened lmao.

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Post Post #4521 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:19 pm

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Like is that post my manifesto? No

Is it me trying to get reinvested and do things? Yes
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Post Post #4522 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:21 pm

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In post 4521, notscience wrote:Like is that post my manifesto? No

Is it me trying to get reinvested and do things? Yes
I'm good with never eliminating you this game and I will give anyone who says otherwise a very hard time.
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Post Post #4523 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:24 pm

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sure, yeah.

in the morning can you talk more about your LLD read? like, town LLD who hit scum vs. scum LLD who bussed hard?
but most interested in your Flea read.
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Post Post #4524 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:26 pm

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NDmath Or murdercat please.

Whichever of those two survive needs to get chopped.

I'm not really interested in an Ircher wagon RN.
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