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Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:08 pm**

Is there some secret I missed?

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:08 pm**

Ugh, both Titan and Parliament looks exciting.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:09 pm**

In post 4524, Purple Heart wrote:Like if its only for 1 night then fine it fucking sucks.
But if its perma then wolves can't devise a plan that is nuanced

less time to plan equals better chances at victory this is common knowledge on how you win battles.

ok, if it's every night for the rest of the game, that's pretty good. if it's just one then no.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:09 pm**

In post 4526, Creature wrote:Ugh, both Titan and Parliament looks exciting.

GIMMIE YOUR TITAN VOTE
GIMMIE THAT SWEET
SWEET
VOTE

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:09 pm**

In post 4523, Purple Heart wrote:
In post 4500, Varsoon wrote:The Titan Offensive : The Scum Team loses access to their Night Chat.
@V - is this pernament across the whole game or just for 1 night

It's Permanent--lasts all game, regardless of theme.
Scum will still be able to submit their actions via PT, but that's all they'll be limited to--any post containing anything other than action submission will be deleted and any attempt to create a 'code' will result in a modkill.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:10 pm**

VOTE: Titan

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:11 pm**

SEE
SEE
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:11 pm**

In post 4524, Purple Heart wrote:Like if its only for 1 night then fine it fucking sucks.
But if its perma then wolves can't devise a plan that is nuanced

less time to plan equals better chances at victory this is common knowledge on how you win battles.

that doesn't remove day chat though I think

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:16 pm**

If there was a puzzle that was still to be solved the Parlimanent is the obv go too choice.
But its likely Gamma/Baku just go in the hood and we get hardly any new information at all.

Disabling Mechs sounds great but as described in the mechanics posts, their usages are situational.
Not to mention if we disabled night chat and make the window of time they have to talk as limited as possible, then we're already forcing wolves to make suboptimal actions

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:20 pm**

VOTE: Titan

More chaos

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:20 pm**

I hope everyone likes the formatting of their new role PMs. Again, if you can't read the table, please let me know.
I'm also making a post here because Arby's made a Gundam related tweet today and it's uncanny how it syncs up with this game:
https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/984098752934821888

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:23 pm**

beeboy just complimented Varsoon's dedication to moderation, because he bought Arby's ad space on twitter.
obviously this is the most important information to relay.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:33 pm**

In post 4515, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4500, Varsoon wrote:
UC 0087 EARTH SPHERE STRATAGEMS:

Please vote on one of the following Stratagems:

The Titan Offensive :
The Scum Team loses access to their Night Chat.

Operation Maelstrom :
The Scum Team loses access to all of their 'Mobile Suit' abilities for the Day and Night.

Parliament at Dakar :
A special PT is opened with 4 players in it; at least one of the players in the PT is guaranteed to be Scum.
Titan Offensive is the worst option here and shouldn't be considered

Between the other two, I vote for Parliament as our best choice

Parliament

is the perfect way to create a dichotomy at the moment, and that is the last thing town needs. There is too much probability of WIFOM being created if we have a pool outside of the information we've already acquired based on flips.

It's also not a secret that there are plenty of PTs, which does not quite help here?

With

Maid Cafe's

townflip via NK, I feel that his case and his reads are more reliable.

Also,

Titan Offensive

is literally one of the most debilitating things that could be done to scum in this game. That literally weakens their ability to communicate within themselves upon the end of a day, and works to make them implode. Can you elaborate on why it's not a good option?

In post 4517, Chara wrote:also i agree, Titan is the least fun thing you could have picked. boo.
VOTE: Parliament
this game doesn't have enough PTs is the problem. i think it should have more.

pedit: if the game is won already it shouldn't matter, so let's just go with the most interesting one.

We're not going for fun, we're going for results.

In post 4532, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4524, Purple Heart wrote:Like if its only for 1 night then fine it fucking sucks.
But if its perma then wolves can't devise a plan that is nuanced

less time to plan equals better chances at victory this is common knowledge on how you win battles.
that doesn't remove day chat though I think

Just daytalk is much better for town than BOTH daytalk and nighttalk.

Varsoon wrote:
In post 4523, Purple Heart wrote:
In post 4500, Varsoon wrote:The Titan Offensive : The Scum Team loses access to their Night Chat.
@V - is this pernament across the whole game or just for 1 night

It's Permanent--lasts all game, regardless of theme.
Scum will still be able to submit their actions via PT, but that's all they'll be limited to--any post containing anything other than action submission will be deleted and any attempt to create a 'code' will result in a modkill.

I will not accept another strategem being voted.

~ Taly

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:36 pm**

I agree Titan is the way to go.

VOTE: Titan

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:16 pm**

I don't think we need some "there's scum among these set of players" rn.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:19 pm**

In post 4031, Maid Cafe wrote:I don't particularly care enough about ICing Chara I think we lose more by stalling out the day for another 6 irl days.

Especially given a few people completing a puzzle literally just outs them as scum if this is a fake claim so I don't think it ever is?

Like

Literally 100% of the time these are true.
A50 = Scum
Baku = Scum
Gamma = Scum

Venmar is probably just the last scum in this team.

Another important thing that needs to be established before we go full titan.

By Piling on votes on Titan, we are agreeing that
A. As soon as this phase is over, we naked vote ASAP Baku.
B. We then do the same with Gamma as soon as the next day starts
C. We keep on doing this until there is 1 wolf remaining, then we just stop because at that point Titan because useless.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:20 pm**

Oh wait, I remember why I quoted that post.
Bee won the game I'm reposting all of the reasoning as to how and why.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:20 pm**

In post 4031, Maid Cafe wrote:I don't particularly care enough about ICing Chara I think we lose more by stalling out the day for another 6 irl days.

Especially given a few people completing a puzzle literally just outs them as scum if this is a fake claim so I don't think it ever is?

Like

Literally 100% of the time these are true.
A50 = Scum
Baku = Scum
Gamma = Scum

Venmar is probably just the last scum in this team.

In post 4077, Maid Cafe wrote:I am going to go slow for a bit I have new things to say as well I just dwant to take this piece by piece.

We have a guilty on A50 and
A50 claiming to save Baku makes it highly likely Baku is scum since I was literally pushing Baku as though I had a guilty.
In addition them creating there hoods very close to EoD means they knew the day was ending

So playwise I take issue with them as well but does anyone not just understand these reasons?

In post 4086, Maid Cafe wrote:Gamma hasnt really been playing to his town game at all.
He wad disconnected all of day 1, mainly the same thing day 2.

Night 1 he chose to track {A50, Chara, Me, Bronya} which really just feels like him claiming 3 of his scum tracks. Generally he has just ignored or treated his targets as town which I think is a disconnect from a player who submitted those actions. And him explaining his role was dodgy af.
(I am not sure how the above is not enough he simply just isnt playing like town gamma and has non sensical actions.)

In addition Varsoon is a mod who will check synergies and make sure his game just isnt strictly broken. Varsoon would easily miss checking to see if scum and town roles are broken together while designing multiple games over night.

Our pacifist role is we can target 5 people and check to see if they preformed an action night 1. Gamma can claim before us so there isnt overlap so us + Gamma can check like 9 different slots + ourselves which is 11/15 slots. So i dont really think us and Gamma coexist mechanically since we basically so the same thing and we do it over way too many slots in addition to the vast amount of play based reasons that make him scum 100% of the time.

In post 4087, Maid Cafe wrote:
And after catching 3 scum in a row just lynch venmar since i am too lazy to explain that read

This is a reminder that these posts have won the game for us already so we sheep them

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:33 pm**

In post 4509, Chara wrote:also i don't have my IC. incredible. i'd thought Iconeum solved it but i was told i didn't get a best friends PT with every living player. even if that meant Snarky (who was treestumped), the PT with Iconeum should have gone through and it did not.

i had a win condition attached to that IC going off. it was extra. i failed it apparently, so no win for me. sorry for wasting time.

this is a reminder to anyone who didn't bookmark them that all my PTs are still active, and will remain active. and yes, i still have my PT with Maid Cafe. this is information the mafia has if they know how to read, which i assume they do. if they don't, here's your free reminder that death is fake.

i also still have a PT with Almost50, in case he has anything to say. haha.

Venmar's probably ascetic so lol.

That being said, I think disabling scum mechs is better. We all pilot mechs and get confirmed. Don't hold me to it but first blush seems op.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:34 pm**

In post 4524, Purple Heart wrote:Like if its only for 1 night then fine it fucking sucks.
But if its perma then wolves can't devise a plan that is nuanced

less time to plan equals better chances at victory this is common knowledge on how you win battles.

That's factually incorrect. Some of my best scumworks came in plain sight. It was years ago but :/

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:35 pm**

Titus Mech usage was described as situational.
I don't think the clears are really needed at this point and I doubt we have any way to really prove that the people that DO need to be cleared did use their mechs (Dunn)

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:36 pm**

In post 4544, Titus wrote:
In post 4524, Purple Heart wrote:Like if its only for 1 night then fine it fucking sucks.
But if its perma then wolves can't devise a plan that is nuanced

less time to plan equals better chances at victory this is common knowledge on how you win battles.
That's factually incorrect. Some of my best scumworks came in plain sight. It was years ago but :/

Thank god we're not dealing with wolf!Titus

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:37 pm**

Ugh...I need to sleep on this and read my PM closely. I feel trapped in whatever choice I make is anti-town.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:38 pm**

In post 4545, Purple Heart wrote:Titus Mech usage was described as situational.
I don't think the clears are really needed at this point and I doubt we have any way to really prove that the people that DO need to be cleared did use their mechs (Dunn)

Wait Dunn used a mech already?

We can also let the people we have as lock scum use abilities or get a rock solid guilty.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:38 pm**

Titus talk to Chara you're not alone.
Plus Chara can transfer over to me if you need my imput.

pedit: No I'm saying I think its hard to actually prove who used mechs.

Actually let me reread mechanics

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