Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[tris]

Then who?

[tris]

WHy am I suddenly town?

[skitter30]

I'm ruling out Nimueh and Creature, and Chara can't be because of being on the wagon before.

What about about the gamestate indicates Succinct scum?

the fact that people have been pushing this for a week and it's *not happenign*

if succinct is town scum would have just allowed multiple townies talk them into the hammer happening already

the fact that getting votes there is like pulling teeth indicates that scum aren't willing to join it, which points to succinct-scum

[skitter30]

WHy am I suddenly town?

if you were scum and succinct was town you would have hammered and died overnight

if you're scum it's exactly with succinct

[xRECKONERx]

hammered and escaped, not died

[tris]

Couldn't scum already be there?

[xRECKONERx]

...yes.

which would make you town?

[xRECKONERx]

The options are either:

1) Succinct is scum, and his scumbuddy refuses to hammer, in which case, we have a wagon on scum and win the game.
2) Succinct is town, and you refused to hammer, meaning one of {Chara, Creature, Nim} is scum.
3) Succinct is town, and both scum are already on the wagon.

Either way, it helps us narrow it down.

[tris]

WHy am I suddenly town?

if you were scum and succinct was town you would have hammered and died overnight

if you're scum it's exactly with succinct

You confused me because you said I wasn't scum

with

Succinct. Did you mean the opposite?

[skitter30]

i mean that would mean scum is me (i'm town!) or tohru (town!) or elbirn (town!) or nmsa (idk)

and that the other 6 people are townies who for no explicable reason aren't willing to vote there

there's nobody professing a strong townread on her
there's no reason for 6 townies who aren't townreading succinct to have *none* of them voting her

[skitter30]

WHy am I suddenly town?

if you were scum and succinct was town you would have hammered and died overnight

if you're scum it's exactly with succinct

You confused me because you said I wasn't scum

with

Succinct. Did you mean the opposite?

if you're scum it's exactly with succinct because otherwise you would have hammered and escaped tonight

i'm not sure what i meant before but this is accurate ^^^

[Creature]

Not hammering.

[skitter30]

sweet

[Creature]

Need Chara, Creature, and Nim to check in and if nobody hammers, we probably have scum in Succinct or both scum on the wagon.

Though, what if none of them is the intended escapee?

[Elbirn]

tris what exactly is your read on succinct?

I don't have a very clear read on Succinct. I think Enter was sort of town, maybe. I think Succinct is being limited by their self imposed posting style. So, I think some of the reasons for them being scum are faulty. But, I could still see them as being scum. Idk. The main reason I'm not voting for Succinct is that I can only see Reck as being their partner, and I have a really hard time seeing that. And, if we lynch here and it's wrong, there's more options to sort through, whereas if whatever counterwagon is a mislynch and Reck or Succinct escape, then we can lynch the other.

I've decided that Chara is definitely not scum.

Reasoning?

Shes still part of my PoE so sorting her would be swell

A lot of her thinking lately has fit with how I'm thinking and seems natural, and I think she would have stayed on Succinct if she were scum.

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Alright, VOTE: NMSA I kind of thinking Elbirn might be town.

I don't think the skitter quote nimueh has been quoting is scummy though.

Succinct/Reck/Chara are my scum pool right now. You saying "I can only see succinct being scum with reck soo neither are scum! " makes my heart hurt.

If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.

Finally, literally lynch me if you're just going to setup another counter wagon because this is just painful.

Honestly lynch me or succinct. If its succinct, we win. If it's me, succinct escapes tonight, we get to go into lylo tomorrow with both of our alignments flipped and it should be easy for all of you to figure out the partner from there.

Pedit: oh no look out its literally everyone all at once

[skitter30]

fair enough but tris wasn't the intended escapee here
and you *prob?* werne't either? idk it depends on who you'd be partnered with

[xRECKONERx]

I still feel like scum takes the easy hammer.

I also feel like if that was the case, their buddy/intended escapee would've unvoted by now and put themselves in position to hammer.

[Creature]

I want to see the scenario Succinct is town.

[tris]

If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.

If Chara is scum, then Succinct is not scum.

[Creature]

I think it's way easier for me to tell who Succinct's partner is than to find whoever last scum is in the case Succinct is lynched and flipped town.

[Elbirn]

If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.

If Chara is scum, then Succinct is not scum.

Because?

[skitter30]

i mean succinct partners are now basically limited to nimueh and chara i think, right?

[tris]

If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.

If Chara is scum, then Succinct is not scum.

Because?

Chara left her vote on Succinct at a time when the momentum was such that Succinct could easily have been lynched.

[Creature]

Succinct's partner:
Elbirn
Nimueh
skitter30
Chara
xRECKONERx
NotMySpamAccount
tris
Creature
Tohru

Thinking we can exclude four of them:

Elbirn

Nimueh

skitter30

Chara
xRECKONERx

NotMySpamAccount

tris
Creature

Tohru

[skitter30]

wait nm creature and tris are viable succinct partners too for not hammering

if succinct is town they're not scum almost for sure
if succinct is scum they could be scum with her