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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:23 pm
by tris
Then who?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:24 pm
by tris
WHy am I suddenly town?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:24 pm
by skitter30
In post 4519, tris wrote:I'm ruling out Nimueh and Creature, and Chara can't be because of being on the wagon before.

What about about the gamestate indicates Succinct scum?
the fact that people have been pushing this for a week and it's *not happenign*

if succinct is town scum would have just allowed multiple townies talk them into the hammer happening already

the fact that getting votes there is like pulling teeth indicates that scum aren't willing to join it, which points to succinct-scum

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:24 pm
by skitter30
In post 4526, tris wrote:WHy am I suddenly town?
if you were scum and succinct was town you would have hammered and died overnight

if you're scum it's exactly with succinct

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:25 pm
by xRECKONERx
hammered and escaped, not died

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:25 pm
by tris
Couldn't scum already be there?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:26 pm
by xRECKONERx
...yes.

which would make you town?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:27 pm
by xRECKONERx
The options are either:

1) Succinct is scum, and his scumbuddy refuses to hammer, in which case, we have a wagon on scum and win the game.
2) Succinct is town, and you refused to hammer, meaning one of {Chara, Creature, Nim} is scum.
3) Succinct is town, and both scum are already on the wagon.

Either way, it helps us narrow it down.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:27 pm
by tris
In post 4528, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4526, tris wrote:WHy am I suddenly town?
if you were scum and succinct was town you would have hammered and died overnight

if you're scum it's exactly with succinct
You confused me because you said I wasn't scum
with
Succinct. Did you mean the opposite?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:27 pm
by skitter30
i mean that would mean scum is me (i'm town!) or tohru (town!) or elbirn (town!) or nmsa (idk)

and that the other 6 people are townies who for no explicable reason aren't willing to vote there

there's nobody professing a strong townread on her
there's no reason for 6 townies who aren't townreading succinct to have *none* of them voting her

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:28 pm
by skitter30
In post 4533, tris wrote:
In post 4528, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4526, tris wrote:WHy am I suddenly town?
if you were scum and succinct was town you would have hammered and died overnight

if you're scum it's exactly with succinct
You confused me because you said I wasn't scum
with
Succinct. Did you mean the opposite?
if you're scum it's exactly with succinct because otherwise you would have hammered and escaped tonight

i'm not sure what i meant before but this is accurate ^^^

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:29 pm
by Creature
Not hammering.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:29 pm
by skitter30
sweet

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:30 pm
by Creature
In post 4524, xRECKONERx wrote:Need Chara, Creature, and Nim to check in and if nobody hammers, we probably have scum in Succinct or both scum on the wagon.
Though, what if none of them is the intended escapee?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:31 pm
by Elbirn
In post 4513, tris wrote:
In post 4490, skitter30 wrote:tris what exactly is your read on succinct?
I don't have a very clear read on Succinct. I think Enter was sort of town, maybe. I think Succinct is being limited by their self imposed posting style. So, I think some of the reasons for them being scum are faulty. But, I could still see them as being scum. Idk. The main reason I'm not voting for Succinct is that I can only see Reck as being their partner, and I have a really hard time seeing that. And, if we lynch here and it's wrong, there's more options to sort through, whereas if whatever counterwagon is a mislynch and Reck or Succinct escape, then we can lynch the other.
In post 4491, Elbirn wrote:
In post 4488, tris wrote:I've decided that Chara is definitely not scum.
Reasoning?

Shes still part of my PoE so sorting her would be swell
A lot of her thinking lately has fit with how I'm thinking and seems natural, and I think she would have stayed on Succinct if she were scum.

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Alright, VOTE: NMSA I kind of thinking Elbirn might be town.

I don't think the skitter quote nimueh has been quoting is scummy though.
Succinct/Reck/Chara are my scum pool right now. You saying "I can only see succinct being scum with reck soo neither are scum! :)" makes my heart hurt.

If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.

Finally, literally lynch me if you're just going to setup another counter wagon because this is just painful.

Honestly lynch me or succinct. If its succinct, we win. If it's me, succinct escapes tonight, we get to go into lylo tomorrow with both of our alignments flipped and it should be easy for all of you to figure out the partner from there.

Pedit: oh no look out its literally everyone all at once

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:31 pm
by skitter30
fair enough but tris wasn't the intended escapee here
and you *prob?* werne't either? idk it depends on who you'd be partnered with

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:31 pm
by xRECKONERx
I still feel like scum takes the easy hammer.

I also feel like if that was the case, their buddy/intended escapee would've unvoted by now and put themselves in position to hammer.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:34 pm
by Creature
I want to see the scenario Succinct is town.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:35 pm
by tris
In post 4539, Elbirn wrote: If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.
If Chara is scum, then Succinct is not scum.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:35 pm
by Creature
I think it's way easier for me to tell who Succinct's partner is than to find whoever last scum is in the case Succinct is lynched and flipped town.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:36 pm
by Elbirn
In post 4543, tris wrote:
In post 4539, Elbirn wrote: If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.
If Chara is scum, then Succinct is not scum.
Because?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:36 pm
by skitter30
i mean succinct partners are now basically limited to nimueh and chara i think, right?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:38 pm
by tris
In post 4545, Elbirn wrote:
In post 4543, tris wrote:
In post 4539, Elbirn wrote: If chara is scum...then she absolutely would not have stayed on scum-succinct so your reasoning there is also bananas.
If Chara is scum, then Succinct is not scum.
Because?
Chara left her vote on Succinct at a time when the momentum was such that Succinct could easily have been lynched.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:38 pm
by Creature
Succinct's partner:
Elbirn
Nimueh
skitter30
Chara
xRECKONERx
NotMySpamAccount
tris
Creature
Tohru

Thinking we can exclude four of them:
Elbirn

Nimueh
skitter30

Chara
xRECKONERx
NotMySpamAccount

tris
Creature
Tohru

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:39 pm
by skitter30
wait nm creature and tris are viable succinct partners too for not hammering

if succinct is town they're not scum almost for sure
if succinct is scum they could be scum with her