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VC2.8

Player	Votes	Voters
Gamma Emerald	1	ssbm_Kyouko
Lukewarm	1	Lady Lambdadelta
No Elim	1	Lukewarm
Not Voting	---	WhemeStar, Cabd, Kate Bishop, Gamma Emerald

With 7 alive it takes 4 to eliminate.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-09-28 10:56:00), or when an elimination is achieved.

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In post 4519, Kate Bishop wrote:However, I will direct him in the right direction- I am looking solely at RVS in past scumgames. (and if you look at the bastard one, VFP was his first buddy). Or you can not do this and I'll spell it out but I'd much rather you look >_>

Luke's past scum game:

Newbie: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12822422
Pooky's dead silence: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87316
Popcorn: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=87343

Bastard game that I don't really count as a game (I was not scum the entire game, but did start as scum). Only including the link because Kate specifically mentioned it:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=86860

Just popping in to remind everyone I'm on VLA atp, have actually started pto so am not posting from work, and I still want to lim Gamma or Cabd this phase as no lim is lower risk, but has no upside, and he risk is not so low that it's worth pursuing it imo.

The* risk

Nevermind on the meta thing, I think it's a goose chase.

I just read the neighborhood from tarot UPick and yeah that was mostly on melanque
Skitter at least acted semi-natural, even though she did kinda slip up and indicate I was scum

I think NL is just the worst here.

I want to do Luke. Kate, Kyouko, please.

I’ll do Luke if you can explain the logic for him being partnered with Cabd

In post 4533, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ll do Luke if you can explain the logic for him being partnered with Cabd

Okay Gamma, counter question

Who do you believe are reasonable Cabd scum partners. You're not allowed to skip out, you already said you see cabd as 100% scum from your PoV right?

So who are possible partners, if Luke isn't one? Given your question, I assume Luke is off your list, so here we go.

Name them.

I could reasonably envision anyone but you and GiF being his scum partner
Tbh I was initially thinking Kate and Kyouko were more likely but I feel like it’s more likely some who feels a bit warmer in an emotional sense is it, that being Wheme or Luke
And with the genuine searching I saw from Cabd earlier I think Luke is the most logical partner
VOTE: Lukewarm
I basically just talked myself into reaching the same sort of conclusion you did

I still think that no elim is the best option here... But if no one else is on board for that, I guess I can go somewhere else.

I am at No Elim > Cabd/LLD > Kate >>>>>>>>Gamma > Me > kyouko / wheme

I really do think that Gamma is scum, but I also think that he is protected today.

I think that kyouko and wheme are town. Kyouko for the tracker stuff, wheme has grew on me last day phase, plus he does not look like a partner to Dunn, and he cannot be partnered with Gamma because of Cabd's claim. I put them below me in priority because they actually have roles to help the town. I don't.

I am also entertaining the idea that it is Gamma + GiF. And Gif is gone, and gamma is protected, so doing any kill is actually bad, and that is why the scum team have this ability. Which is part of the reason I am on the no elim train atm

In post 4536, Lukewarm wrote:I still think that no elim is the best option here... But if no one else is on board for that, I guess I can go somewhere else.

I am at No Elim > Cabd/LLD > Kate >>>>>>>>Gamma > Me > kyouko / wheme

I really do think that Gamma is scum, but I also think that he is protected today.

I think that kyouko and wheme are town. Kyouko for the tracker stuff, wheme has grew on me last day phase, plus he does not look like a partner to Dunn, and he cannot be partnered with Gamma because of Cabd's claim. I put them below me in priority because they actually have roles to help the town. I don't.

I am also entertaining the idea that it is Gamma + GiF. And Gif is gone, and gamma is protected, so doing any kill is actually bad, and that is why the scum team have this ability. Which is part of the reason I am on the no elim train atm

I'd like for you to unpack that order past No Elim.

In post 4537, Kate Bishop wrote: I am at No Elim > Cabd/LLD > Kate >>>>>>>>Gamma > Me > kyouko / wheme

I'd like for you to unpack that order past No Elim.[/quote]

I already explained why gamma, me, kyouko, and wheme are where we are.

That leaves cabd, lld, and you. (and again, gif is not an option today)

I am more inclined to believe you are town then cabd and lld. So, you are in your own slot. Congrats.

damn. screwed the quote

In post 4537, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4536, Lukewarm wrote:I am at No Elim > Cabd/LLD > Kate >>>>>>>>Gamma > Me > kyouko / wheme

I'd like for you to unpack that order past No Elim.

I already explained why gamma, me, kyouko, and wheme are where we are.

That leaves cabd, lld, and you. (and again, gif is not an option today)

I am more inclined to believe you are town then cabd and lld. So, you are in your own slot. Congrats.

Why is LLD where she is?

In post 4495, Lukewarm wrote:the rest is a blur of "I can see it if I squint really hard, but no one seems to fit quite right"

I am still about here. I have put zero energy into this new-part-of-the-day phase, and really thought we would just no elim and move on.

Instead, LLD appears to want to lead a push on me, and no one is leading any wagons anywhere else, so that is fun.

I’m most concerned at how kyouko/Wheme are past Luke in that order

Lukewarm wrote:

In post 4495, Lukewarm wrote:the rest is a blur of "I can see it if I squint really hard, but no one seems to fit quite right"

I am still about here. I have put zero energy into this new-part-of-the-day phase, and really thought we would just no elim and move on.

Instead, LLD appears to want to lead a push on me, and no one is leading any wagons anywhere else, so that is fun.

We've indicated we're on team no-elim.

I'm concerned that scum have a little bit of maneuvering room if the votes are close. Especially if we're right about Gamma. If he's scum he has no reason to avoid a blatant last minute swing of his vote onto a townie because unless something changes drastically, he's very likely to be tomorrow's elim.

In post 4540, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 4537, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4536, Lukewarm wrote:I am at No Elim > Cabd/LLD > Kate >>>>>>>>Gamma > Me > kyouko / wheme

I'd like for you to unpack that order past No Elim.

I already explained why gamma, me, kyouko, and wheme are where we are.

That leaves cabd, lld, and you. (and again, gif is not an option today)

I am more inclined to believe you are town then cabd and lld. So, you are in your own slot. Congrats.

Really like how straightforward and lazy the explanation is, think it reinforces town!luke. At least I think in general that the carefree attitude indicates town. Not sure if it applies to Luke specifically but I feel town in this post.

In post 4542, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 4495, Lukewarm wrote:the rest is a blur of "I can see it if I squint really hard, but no one seems to fit quite right"

I am still about here. I have put zero energy into this new-part-of-the-day phase, and really thought we would just no elim and move on.

Instead, LLD appears to want to lead a push on me, and no one is leading any wagons anywhere else, so that is fun.

I wont vote you, I dont think kate or wheme will, though idk. I dont think you ever hit 4 toDay.

In post 4541, Kate Bishop wrote:Why is LLD where she is?

Why should she be any where else? She is in my PoE for the last slot of Dunn+Gamma+????

And atm, that slot is just that. PoE. Like, it has to be one of [lld, cabd, Gif, or you]

Like, little things I have thought about her slot:

I think that she is one of the people in this game that could have fed marci the line that made cabd think that she was the katniss he was looking for.

Now that she came back from her VLA, and her first thought was to kill the person who could confirm or deny her role, which I did not like.

Second thought was to kill me, which I also did not like.

And her approach to that felt weird. Really.... dethatched I guess? idk, seemed weird.

I also did not like that you asked her about looking at associatives, and she admitted that she didn't but that she should, and then nothing ever came of that, and she just came back how ever long later trying to rally the votes.

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I was very ready to kill Gamma after the last day phase, but we are in a weird scum arranged phase, so my choices are no elim, or shoot in the poe, and very few people seem to be on board for the no elim option.

I asked her about associatives with Dunn and players she thinks could be scum, particularly you and wheme because neither of you are in our willing-to-elim pile today.

I would have liked her to do something more with that. As town, I respect her scumhunting ability.

And if she's town, I fear a bloodstained repeat, where because Rhia's scum-with-notsci pile flipped town, she stopped pushing notsci on the final game day.

Sorry, I've been thinking about it.

I think no elim bluff call is indeed the right way to go.

Then scum can kill at most one of the two investigatives.

If anyone has extra protections they've held back in claiming they go onto wheme who is basically a factional cop AND rolecop.

Pedit: who is the Annie here in your metaphor?