Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]

[Aristophanes]

it doesn't. if they kill me the town wincon is fulfilled and the scum one isn't. look at the pm's

Also, that. Well played, PV. Well played.

[Fluminator]

Anti messaged saying the game was done, and I checked fully expecting a scum win.
Lol that poisoner role.
Sorry about replacing out again. It was primarily reasons outside the game that caused it and I have no hard feelings to anyone.

[Ankamius]

It completely blows my mind every time I see PeregrineV roll a town PR and crush the scumteam with it. I think this is the third time I've seen him do it.

[Fluminator]

Night 3

St Constantine the Hermit commutes
T S O investigates Wickedestjr (

Town

)
Sonic Boom roleblocks mastin2
ika kills Flubbernugget

Reading this, I greatly regret replacing out.
Me and Marquis were originally planning on using the roleblock on Ika this night after town reading him, hoping to catch the scum off guard.
Oh well.

Lying Cat's actions make sense now. You're a pretty genius player Cat.
Mastin, I finally understand why you have a great reputation. Very well played.
GG to Vezok especially, you had me fooled.

[Cerberus v666]

Night 3

St Constantine the Hermit commutes
T S O investigates Wickedestjr (

Town

)
Sonic Boom roleblocks mastin2
ika kills Flubbernugget

Reading this, I greatly regret replacing out.
Me and Marquis were originally planning on using the roleblock on Ika this night after town reading him, hoping to catch the scum off guard.
Oh well.

Lying Cat's actions make sense now. You're a pretty genius player Cat.
Mastin, I finally understand why you have a great reputation. Very well played.
GG to Vezok especially, you had me fooled.

Yeah, I was 100% gonna invent to you if you hadn't replaced out and been replaced by someone I didn't know. Pretty sure the game would have ended way sooner had you stayed in.

[Ankamius]

I'll call this game a success if only because I had a non-trivial contribution to T S O not getting serious fire for his investigation.

[Metal Sonic]

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK?

TOWN WON?



HOW ON EARTH


I WAS ABOUT TO MOPE ABOUT TOWN BEING SHIT BUT WOW

[mastin2]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!

Best scumgame I've ever played.
BEST FUCKING SCUMGAME I'VE EVER PLAYED.
Ever, of all time.
Which we were in the clear to win.
Which there was no way we could have lost.
Especially since we were lynching town in mylo.

AND WE LOST.

I call bullshit.

(...Well-done, PV.)

[mastin2]

Also, dead serious, Anti: release the damn mafia PT. I want that read by everyone.

I had this game nailed down. I knew Flubber was the cop-inventor on D2 and would've nightkilled him N2 if I hadn't been overruled by vezok and ika, who convinced me it was ZX.

[mastin2]

Linky. (Though Anti needs to make it public.)

Speaking of which, I wanna read the dead PT.

[mastin2]

I'm graceful though. (Nomination.)

[Cerberus v666]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!

Best scumgame I've ever played.
BEST FUCKING SCUMGAME I'VE EVER PLAYED.
Ever, of all time.
Which we were in the clear to win.
Which there was no way we could have lost.
Especially since we were lynching town in mylo.

AND WE LOST.

I call bullshit.

(...Well-done, PV.)

Eh. Pretty sure any chance of victory you had could be laid at the feet of town apathy, constantine replacing flubber, and town somehow (due to said apathy) not lynching the worst case 50/50 followed by guaranteed scum if they picked the wrong one, after which vezok was basically dead.

So....yeah. I know you like to take credit for things, but you certainly can't take credit for that. :p

[ika]

personaly im glad we lost this game. both sides of us played like shit

[Cerberus v666]

Oh! I will say though, mastin, that your unnecessary virtual clear of TSO via the logic of his unnecessary clear on Wicked if scum (which subtly supported the idea of yourself as town within itself, which is fucking incredible), was masterful and dropped you from my 2nd lynch target that day and into certain town. So, kudos on that.

[mastin2]

Speak for yourself, ika.

There were plenty of competent town players. LC's gamebreaking and Nacho's Aristophanes lynch being big ones. Jaqen hammering two scum, too. Plus PV's game-winning lie. Flubber was dangerously competent when he was in the game, too. (If he had been in the game, we'd have killed him instead of Sonic.)
Vezok did a good job of being pro-scum in agenda while being near-universally townread, and this IS the best scumgame of mine of all time.
So both sides did really really well.

[mastin2]

Oh! I will say though, mastin, that your unnecessary virtual clear of TSO via the logic of his unnecessary clear on Wicked if scum (which subtly supported the idea of yourself as town within itself, which is fucking incredible), was masterful and dropped you from my 2nd lynch target that day and into certain town. So, kudos on that.

Well, I'd call it pretty necessary. Someone else could have stumbled upon the same logic (you almost did yourself!), and it made sense to ME, so I posted it. I figured I wasn't really losing much, but I could have gained potential allies from it. Which I did.

[Cerberus v666]

Yeah, I was kicking myself for not arriving at that same conclusion. :p And I absolutely understand why you posted it, it was something SOMEONE would eventually figure out that day, and it was best to take credit for it yourself.

Jingle, sthar....please explain to me why you didn't push mastin yesterday and make it a 1v1? You knew she had to be scum, because you weren't. Out of everything this game, that is gonna bother me forever if I don't understand the reasoning behind it. :p

[Metal Sonic]

BEST FUCKING SCUMGAME I'VE EVER PLAYED.

oh really

you may want to add on a "of 2015" to that clause, because i do not think that this is your best scumgame, there were better ones. titus already had you pegged day 1

[Metal Sonic]

i want to know what was going on in anti's mind when he made the PV nuke role because its a super sensor and could potentially (in optimal scenario) end a game d1

[sthar8]

Yeah, I was kicking myself for not arriving at that same conclusion. :p And I absolutely understand why you posted it, it was something SOMEONE would eventually figure out that day, and it was best to take credit for it yourself.

Jingle, sthar....please explain to me why you didn't push mastin yesterday and make it a 1v1? You knew she had to be scum, because you weren't. Out of everything this game, that is gonna bother me forever if I don't understand the reasoning behind it. :p

1. there was a possibility that she was just being catastrophically bad at her role
2. balance wise, for the doctor to be scum there had to be another strong town power role that nobody had claimed.
3. i really wanted jaquen to stfu.
4. you don't lynch doctor claims until you have to. being alive in lylo would confirm her as scum, so there's no reason not to hunt the partner first.

[sthar8]

i want to know what was going on in anti's mind when he made the PV nuke role because its a super sensor and could potentially (in optimal scenario) end a game d1

the confluence of events to make that happen was exceptionally unlikely for either side.

[Cerberus v666]

Yeah, I was kicking myself for not arriving at that same conclusion. :p And I absolutely understand why you posted it, it was something SOMEONE would eventually figure out that day, and it was best to take credit for it yourself.

Jingle, sthar....please explain to me why you didn't push mastin yesterday and make it a 1v1? You knew she had to be scum, because you weren't. Out of everything this game, that is gonna bother me forever if I don't understand the reasoning behind it. :p

1. there was a possibility that she was just being catastrophically bad at her role
2. balance wise, for the doctor to be scum there had to be another strong town power role that nobody had claimed.
3. i really wanted jaquen to stfu.
4. you don't lynch doctor claims until you have to. being alive in lylo would confirm her as scum, so there's no reason not to hunt the partner first.

I'll accept that all at face value. So, then....she was alive in mylo. As in, if you fuck this up you lose, soooo why no push today then?

Pedit: oh yeah, balance wise pvs role seems...like a nightmare. Lol.

[Metal Sonic]

i want to know what was going on in anti's mind when he made the PV nuke role because its a super sensor and could potentially (in optimal scenario) end a game d1

the confluence of events to make that happen was exceptionally unlikely for either side.

still, if pv got lynched d1 that would be half of the game disappearing lol

[mastin2]

BEST FUCKING SCUMGAME I'VE EVER PLAYED.

oh really
titus already had you pegged day 1

You can never have a scumgame where you're universally townread.

When you can see the scum topic, you'll understand why. Titus wasn't a threat--she was an asset. She singlehandedly mislynched hiplop, after all. I didn't need her to townread me; I used her scumread on me to destroy the town.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Yeah, I was kicking myself for not arriving at that same conclusion. :p And I absolutely understand why you posted it, it was something SOMEONE would eventually figure out that day, and it was best to take credit for it yourself.

Jingle, sthar....please explain to me why you didn't push mastin yesterday and make it a 1v1? You knew she had to be scum, because you weren't. Out of everything this game, that is gonna bother me forever if I don't understand the reasoning behind it. :p

1. there was a possibility that she was just being catastrophically bad at her role
2. balance wise, for the doctor to be scum there had to be another strong town power role that nobody had claimed.
3. i really wanted jaquen to stfu.
4. you don't lynch doctor claims until you have to. being alive in lylo would confirm her as scum, so there's no reason not to hunt the partner first.

Sorry I see things quicker than you do sthar8. I really am. I know it's frustrating. And, who called me a psychopath fir the reverse psychology? Meh.

Yeah, I was kicking myself for not arriving at that same conclusion. :p And I absolutely understand why you posted it, it was something SOMEONE would eventually figure out that day, and it was best to take credit for it yourself.

Jingle, sthar....please explain to me why you didn't push mastin yesterday and make it a 1v1? You knew she had to be scum, because you weren't. Out of everything this game, that is gonna bother me forever if I don't understand the reasoning behind it. :p

1. there was a possibility that she was just being catastrophically bad at her role
2. balance wise, for the doctor to be scum there had to be another strong town power role that nobody had claimed.
3. i really wanted jaquen to stfu.
4. you don't lynch doctor claims until you have to. being alive in lylo would confirm her as scum, so there's no reason not to hunt the partner first.

I'll accept that all at face value. So, then....she was alive in mylo. As in, if you fuck this up you lose, soooo why no push today then?

Pedit: oh yeah, balance wise pvs role seems...like a nightmare. Lol.

One word. Confbias