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Yes but what happens to the other two after scum kill two? Town gets paranoid and thinks they are scum because wolves didn't kill them. We may as well assume all four are dying.

I'll let you guys discuss about this. Gotta go sleep. I'll read some ISOs of players I know I can read and that will be my grain of sand

In post 4549, Pink Ball wrote:Wait, the scumteam can kill the 4 players vetoed? I thought it was max 2

It is.

I'm not unhappy with the leading veto given that town scumread all of them and we do need to be wittled down with so many LHF slots.

In post 4550, Moongrass wrote:Yes but what happens to the other two after scum kill two? Town gets paranoid and thinks they are scum because wolves didn't kill them. We may as well assume all four are dying.

*blinks* This is not a thing. All four may die at some point but there's so many false assumptions

1) Three scum not in the veto.
2) That all four are town.
3) That everyone in the veto will die asap.

Your problems are issues with veto as a whole but that's decided.

Yes they are, as I said I don't mind veto being used for people being scumread by the majority. 1 is obviously not going to happen, I'd be happy with two scum in it but even that's unlikely if I'm included. 2 is more likely than 1, which isn't even an assumption I'm making but an amusing thought that if all four were town then they are doomed regardless which makes it important that we're only putting scumreads in there. 3 is a little bit of a stretch, it's that they will be marked for scum the rest of the game, so I'd watch anyone pushing/not pushing the remaining two slots once their alignments are revealed.

Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, Pink Ball veto should probably swap creature out for another as there are better ways to sort him.

Rereading JohnnyEnglish makes me unsure about my Maria read.

TD v Nancefloor appear SvT from the perspective of TD's ISO. I'd say TD is the likelier scum based on his manoeuvring this game.

uh i like the veto but i dont want to be part of said veto

In post 4546, Pink Ball wrote:It's the Lyncher master himself

you read that game?

So just to piss on everyone's reads. 0verkill is not scum, TD maybe but not the best push. Chemist is scum. NF are scum especially if TD flips green.

In post 1876, BNL wrote:

Vote Count 1.2.14

BrightEyedFish (6): chennisden, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil

(L-3)

chennisden (4): Titus, Fuscosco, OkaPoka, NanceFloor
themilkcartonkid (2): BrightEyedFish, Chemist1422
Fuscosco (1): mbaki
OkaPoka (1): Ankamius


Not Voting (3): Creature, RadiantCowbells, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in

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In post 2003, BNL wrote:

Vote Count 1.2.15

BrightEyedFish (7): chennisden, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil, Fuscosco

(L-2)

Fuscosco (4): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor, OkaPoka
themilkcartonkid (2): BrightEyedFish, Chemist1422
chennisden (1): Titus
OkaPoka (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (3): Creature, Taly

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In post 1969, OkaPoka wrote:

@mod, are treestumped players flipped?

Yes.

In post 1969, OkaPoka wrote:

@mod can treestumped players still use their ability?

No.

In post 2100, BNL wrote:

Vote Count 1.2.17

Fuscosco (7): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor, OkaPoka, BrightEyedFish, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish

(L-2)

BrightEyedFish (4): chennisden, 0verki11, Time Devil, Fuscosco
mbaki (1): Titus
themilkcartonkid (1): Chemist1422
0verki11 (1): Clemency
Taly (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (2): Creature, Taly

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Less than 1 day remaining!

In post 2080, mbaki wrote:

@Mod, what resolves first, the 1-shot repicker or the scum night kill?

The people who stayed on BEF until the end seem less suspicious than those who jumped off last minute like Clemency and JohnnyEnglish/Maria.

RC not voting all day but jumping on scum with his first serious vote is meh.

After some reading I'm happy townreading skygazer, Titus, Tmck, Chenn, PB.

VOTE: Clemency, Chemist, Chen, TD

Though the last two aren't scum reads by play, they have ended up in shady positions on most EoD vote counts.

In post 4563, Moongrass wrote:VOTE: Clemency, Chemist, Chen, TD

Though the last two aren't scum reads by play, they have ended up in shady positions on most EoD vote counts.

Change Chenn for Creature and I am there. Chenn might be townbeard.

In post 4564, Titus wrote:

In post 4563, Moongrass wrote:VOTE: Clemency, Chemist, Chen, TD

Though the last two aren't scum reads by play, they have ended up in shady positions on most EoD vote counts.

Change Chenn for Creature and I am there. Chenn might be townbeard.

I want to townread Chenn but how does he keep ending up in such awkward positions? It gets to a point where you think maybe there's no such thing as too scummy to be scum. Creature is probably town.

I'm willing to exhange for another non-townread though?

In post 4562, Moongrass wrote:

In post 1876, BNL wrote:

Vote Count 1.2.14

BrightEyedFish (6): chennisden, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil

(L-3)

chennisden (4): Titus, Fuscosco, OkaPoka, NanceFloor
themilkcartonkid (2): BrightEyedFish, Chemist1422
Fuscosco (1): mbaki
OkaPoka (1): Ankamius


Not Voting (3): Creature, RadiantCowbells, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in

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Mod Notes:

In post 2003, BNL wrote:

Vote Count 1.2.15

BrightEyedFish (7): chennisden, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil, Fuscosco

(L-2)

Fuscosco (4): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor, OkaPoka
themilkcartonkid (2): BrightEyedFish, Chemist1422
chennisden (1): Titus
OkaPoka (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (3): Creature, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in

(expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

In post 1969, OkaPoka wrote:

@mod, are treestumped players flipped?

Yes.

In post 1969, OkaPoka wrote:

@mod can treestumped players still use their ability?

No.

In post 2100, BNL wrote:

Vote Count 1.2.17

Fuscosco (7): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor, OkaPoka, BrightEyedFish, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish

(L-2)

BrightEyedFish (4): chennisden, 0verki11, Time Devil, Fuscosco
mbaki (1): Titus
themilkcartonkid (1): Chemist1422
0verki11 (1): Clemency
Taly (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (2): Creature, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in

(expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:
Less than 1 day remaining!

In post 2080, mbaki wrote:

@Mod, what resolves first, the 1-shot repicker or the scum night kill?

The people who stayed on BEF until the end seem less suspicious than those who jumped off last minute like Clemency and JohnnyEnglish/Maria.

RC not voting all day but jumping on scum with his first serious vote is meh.

After some reading I'm happy townreading skygazer, Titus, Tmck, Chenn, PB.

In post 4563, Moongrass wrote:VOTE: Clemency, Chemist, Chen, TD

Though the last two aren't scum reads by play, they have ended up in shady positions on most EoD vote counts.

What happened between these two posts. Also, I like your town pool a lot and it doesn't feel like sheeping consensus

Except for PB, I agree the town pool looks decent.

Except for Moongrass, if I was scummurdering I'd like your pool tmck.

I just feel trying to get all three scum is a waste of time as error are likely.

In post 4527, MariaR wrote:Can we replace Clem? I think he's lynchbait only my main worry with the overkill/chem/moon/clem thing

With who though? I think Overkill11 and Moon are the non-coalition scum + 1 coalition scum. I think PB/Ank is never scum with Moon/mbaki and PB blatantly obvtowned anyway. He clearly has no clue what’s going on, which means that slot is almost certainly town now. I think both Chemist and Clemency have higher scum equity than Creature, so I think it’s important to sort between those two. If my original coalition hadn’t been opposed, we’d already probably have the answer but it got overruled. :/

In post 4569, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 4527, MariaR wrote:Can we replace Clem? I think he's lynchbait only my main worry with the overkill/chem/moon/clem thing

With who though? I think Overkill11 and Moon are the non-coalition scum + 1 coalition scum. I think PB/Ank is never scum with Moon/mbaki and PB blatantly obvtowned anyway. He clearly has no clue what’s going on, which means that slot is almost certainly town now. I think both Chemist and Clemency have higher scum equity than Creature, so I think it’s important to sort between those two. If my original coalition hadn’t been opposed, we’d already probably have the answer but it got overruled. :/

At least you got input

In post 4548, Moongrass wrote:I look forward to the arguments that my slot was scummy after I'm killed. I'd be very amused if the veto was all town and we systematically kill off 4 town.

Also, no I don't have to explain anything to anyone. We are all responsible for our own reads and I don't get into the habit of being backed into a corner by overzealous town who wouldn't listen anyway.

Veto can only kill 2 not 4 players. I’m getting really tired of this broken record.

In post 4550, Moongrass wrote:Yes but what happens to the other two after scum kill two? Town gets paranoid and thinks they are scum because wolves didn't kill them. We may as well assume all four are dying.

lmfao

In post 4556, Moongrass wrote:Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, Pink Ball veto should probably swap creature out for another as there are better ways to sort him.

In what world do you still sr PB?

In post 4567, themilkcartonkid wrote:What happened between these two posts. Also, I like your town pool a lot and it doesn't feel like sheeping consensus

So before the vote pool I liked Chenn because of fusc's play around the slot. I also thought he may have been the 8ball as he was the first wagon flipped scum was pushing once 8ball was selected...but then Chenn and TD are both on the BEF wagon EOD1, are both on the all town dance wagon and both don't really move as fluidly (same problem I have with RC's vote pattern) as town votes tend to.