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Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:07 pm**

I firmly believe that rchana are some sort of third party serial killer.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:08 pm**

anyway

VOTE: oversoul

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:10 pm**

Giffy gave me the ability to check for serial killers. I don't believe Giffy would troll by giving me such an ability in a game with no serial killers. I'm investigating rchana tonight as they are probably serial killers.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:11 pm**

Why didn't you kill Oversoul yesterday anyways?

VOTE: OVERSOUL

btw hi long time no see~!

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:12 pm**

because we don't actually have a vig

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:13 pm**

we just needed to make sure scum didn't shoot us again

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:15 pm**

Who is Rchana? Feel like I'm missing an abbreviation or nickname or something

-merc

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:16 pm**

Raybells & Sakura Hana

I"m the cute head, Sakura Hana is the head that's good at mafia obv

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:17 pm**

We did spear Croag tho.
-Tana

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:18 pm**

It just happened to not be a vig, just the same roleblock (with a bit of an upgrade)
-Tana

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:18 pm**

Yeah, we submitted that like super early in the day and it was too late to change it.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:20 pm**

I think it's CS/OS of the remaining players

It's been

likely for me

down to [CS/OS/DDL/Pops] and pops flip also makes DDL unlikely to be scum with what we know of the remainder so

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:28 pm**

like

RChana
Titus=vig
Gameplay=vig
Katsuki=mason
LLD=Mason
Dannflor=My TR
Sailor Senshi=My TR

Croag = ehhhhhh but i'll call her town for now

DDL
CS
OS

I guess i should do 2/3 associatives in that pool

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:30 pm**

I'm the dayblocker too.

Shocked I wasn't killed but ok.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:33 pm**

i am not at all surprised you weren't killed

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:35 pm**

there's bad stuff in ddl's iso but i do think he's more likely to be town than any of my scumreads.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:03 pm**

What's the bad stuff

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:08 pm**

Catching up now. If there's repeated questions, I'll answer at the end.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:28 pm**

In post 4453, Cafe Stile wrote:
In post 4451, DrDolittle wrote:Dannflor looking real bad on that VCA
wait why
he was on rce
titus actually wasnt

This is because I had blocked RCE. I wanted to lynch scum with a full ability set.

In post 4457, DrDolittle wrote:Other than that I'm concerned about LLD and Katsuki. Both of them are not obv town, and they mason read each other.

This can be dealt with by PoE and bullets.

In post 4518, Dannflor wrote:How does me unvoting RCE at fake L-1 make me scum DDL

Titus, why did you shoot pops? I thought I was next in your PoE

Two vigs would be problematic if Pops was scum. The only way we could reliably kill was without redirection. I know Sakura said an unknown shot vig with scum redirect was unlikely but she never clarified with multiple town vigs despite me trying to get at that without outright claiming. I did crumb the vig item as close as I could without claiming.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:31 pm**

In post 4520, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4516, Tana and Ephraim wrote:
In post 4481, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:My gut instinct is that this is not a town ability on RC+Sakura's slot.

I'm just questioning whether I wanna spend like 5 days trying to lynch this slot while being screamed at tbh.

Life is hard rn lol
unlike the lion's share of players on this site you have never been responsible for leading a mislynch on me and your ability to read me has never been tested.
as of right now you haven't proven that you can't read me like the vast majority of other players in existence.

are you sure you want to transition that to 'has led on RC when he was essentially confirmed town mechanically' and never have even the slightest chance of lynching me in the future?

lol how do people even let you get away with that?

RC always claims through his vocal patterns when scum.
hard work and perseverance
There is a world where you are scum and scum shot you to pull this plan and that is something I think you could do.

There's also a world where you are third party or something with that ability and scum shot you.

You're not as clear as you think you are and it's hard to tell whether that is attributed to you being scum and this is your gambit so you can't lose it, or if you're town and you just have this false sense of confidence in your own status and obviously in that scenario is you would know you're town so of course you'd be confident in it.

So really I'm actually not interested in lynching you today. This is something that something else will sort out, of that much I am certain.

I just wanted to note that this is a concern I have because if I die tonight and people let you run to the end it's a bit of a problem. You've claimed to be more or less unkillable.

This would explain the two town vigs but that's putting the cart before the horse. RC did not want to lynch RCE yesterday. We'd need independent evidence of RC scum before going down that road, and there are better targets tonight, if I transform.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm**

In post 4569, Titus wrote:RC did not want to lynch RCE yesterday. We'd need independent evidence of RC scum before going down that road, and there are better targets tonight, if I transform.

so your argument is that sakura hana wanted to bus and I didn't?

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:38 pm**

In post 4523, gameplay506 wrote:Titus can you tell me why pops, how your ability works, etc

I answered why pops already. It was a security blanket.

As for how my ability works...I'll explain.

By default, I had a day roleblocker and a transformation ability that's a second roleblocker.

On night 1, I was forbidden to transform. I instead had to pick between two options (an AD and AP build). This choice was compulsive and uninterruptible.

The AD build would have made my roleblock submitted during the day block both day and night actions. [This is why when RCE claimed, I thought a mod error might have been made. I didn't pick this option.]

The AP build changes my transformation from a night blocker into a vigilante which may or may not have conditions or modifiers.

I put the choice to my townreads day 1. The majority suggested rb plus vig over 2 rbs.

That's how it works.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:38 pm**

sorry but no other player on site would still have people calling them scum in this situation and i really have no desire to deal with it
we also haven't seen HH's flip and one of my original ideas was that RcE/HH were crossbussing even though I ended up thinking the [whole scumteam mutual defending] theory was more likely

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:39 pm**

In post 4570, Tana and Ephraim wrote:
In post 4569, Titus wrote:RC did not want to lynch RCE yesterday. We'd need independent evidence of RC scum before going down that road, and there are better targets tonight, if I transform.
so your argument is that sakura hana wanted to bus and I didn't?

Not an argument. It's an observation. I am saying it's not enough.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:40 pm**

i think it's a really bad observation because rce's flip spews my role town so if we were in fact scum we'd be very much in favor of getting that flip out of the way early
on top of the whole fact that your theory relies on sakura hana wanting to bus and me not wanting to bus, as well as the fact that it relies on HH not being scum as well

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