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hmm, was your dsjstr read yesterday what you would call gut?

In post 4528, Datisi wrote:s_s, can you talk about this post a bit more? like i don't know whta i'm asking here myself, but this just seems like a weird thing to say?

If you had stuck to your Raven townread, I would have trusted that you were right, even though I didn't like it.

And by PoE that would peg the team at you/Pooky, you/tw, or you/Raven.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that i find it kinda weird what you're *not* going after me when i laid off my townread on bugs/raven when scum!me would theoretically see the PoE's getting narrower and narrower and it would've been in scumtisi's interests to drop it, but... yeah i dunno. makes sense.

Have you seen what Raven and Pooky have been posting today?

They're trying to cast it as though I just totally failed to reevaluate like I said I would, but I've made it clear that the main reason I'm pushing them is all the garbage they've said today.

I have been thinking about other solves. But... that requires either Raven or Pooky to be town, something which is both truly terrifying and almost certainly a town loss.

In post 4541, Raven Branwen wrote:but I just feel the complete lack of resistance to a Pooky wagon is concerning and it ought to be to you as well.

its the same complete lack of resistance to aldus and dsj wagons. its really dumb how un self-aware the town is this game.

In post 4543, Datisi wrote:a complete lack of resistance to a pooky wagon... are we reading the same game?

literally everyone except raven is leaning towards executing me today but dont let that stop your narrative fantasy

Pooky: "I always tell my partners to bus me"
Also Pooky: "Town is dumb for pushing through wagons that had no resistance"

I guess scumteams with Pooky are the only ones that are allowed to bus?

In post 4553, Something_Smart wrote:Have you seen what Raven and Pooky have been posting today?

They're trying to cast it as though I just totally failed to reevaluate like I said I would, but I've made it clear that the main reason I'm pushing them is all the garbage they've said today.

I have been thinking about other solves. But... that requires either Raven or Pooky to be town, something which is both truly terrifying and almost certainly a town loss.

i said my opinion about the pooky/you spat in 4527 (though i don't blame you if you missed it) and i have spent the last page or so arguing with raven, so yeah, i seen it.

me questioning you about 4482 isn't indicative of me thinking you're scum. i just found it... weirdly phrased, "i'd have pushed person X if they didn't do Y, but they did Y, so i won't" because i guess in my mind it implied you should've been pushing X regardless since X was "cornered" in "having" to do Y in order to not get pushed? even though that's not logically correct and i think your explaination is sound.

its legit making me sad how much effort raven is putting into this and you guys r just being dicks

thinking someone could be scum and discussing it with them is apparently being a dick now i guess...

In post 4549, Datisi wrote:

In post 4546, Raven Branwen wrote:Fmpov, if I am the only possibility for Pooky!scum and I know we’re not buddies, why wouldn’t it make sense that I’m not convinced he’s scum?

do you think s_s/pooky is a viable scumteam, yes or no?

r u serious.

1. Koba put me at L-1 on d1
2. I am trying to get SS lynched today
3. SS asked the mod the question that confirmed I was lying about being a vig
4. I literally tried to get lynched in place of Dsj-town yesterday and accuse SS with my dying breath of being scum

In post 4559, Datisi wrote:thinking someone could be scum and discussing it with them is apparently being a dick now i guess...

I am talking about your actions in regards to Raven. i think you can clearly see how much she cares and its unlikely shes scum here.

i would definitely nom her for a scummy if raven is scum here but she just isnt.

In post 4560, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4549, Datisi wrote:

In post 4546, Raven Branwen wrote:Fmpov, if I am the only possibility for Pooky!scum and I know we’re not buddies, why wouldn’t it make sense that I’m not convinced he’s scum?

do you think s_s/pooky is a viable scumteam, yes or no?

r u serious.

1. Koba put me at L-1 on d1
2. I am trying to get SS lynched today
3. SS asked the mod the question that confirmed I was lying about being a vig
4. I literally tried to get lynched in place of Dsj-town yesterday and accuse SS with my dying breath of being scum

sigh.

like i think i've made it abundantly clear that (1) my current guess is raven/pooky not s_s/pooky and i don't see the reason you're taking that post to mean that i've changed my opinion about the solve and (2) that is clearly a question that's supposed to help me see raven's pov so i don't see why you're butting in like this and s i g h

In post 4561, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4559, Datisi wrote:thinking someone could be scum and discussing it with them is apparently being a dick now i guess...

I am talking about your actions in regards to Raven. i think you can clearly see how much she cares and its unlikely shes scum here.

she cares? ok and so? do i not care about this game? yu think i'm just trolling the entire game because lol?? (actually considering your comments this game if you're town you probably do believe that but...) am i a dick now for daring to suspect the oh so holy raven might not be town?

In post 4557, Datisi wrote:i just found it... weirdly phrased, "i'd have pushed person X if they didn't do Y, but they did Y, so i won't" because i guess in my mind it implied you should've been pushing X regardless since X was "cornered" in "having" to do Y in order to not get pushed?

Oh I see. While it's true that you probably did have to stop townreading Raven to avoid getting pushed by me, I don't think you were cornered, because you would probably win a 1v1 with me.

And also, it's not a foregone conclusion that I would push you there-- you might not necessarily know that I would trust your word about Raven even if it made me scumread you.

like there is this arrogant feeling of not giving a fuck that i get from tw/dats/ss. its this smug feeling thats quite mean - you know you're gonna get the scum-win cuz you got enough of this town snowed. 2 of you are scum and 1 of you is the patsy and im not 100% sure which one is the patsy because tho I lean towards it being datisi - I feel you are more aware of what you are doing then you are letting on.

In post 4564, Datisi wrote:

In post 4561, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4559, Datisi wrote:thinking someone could be scum and discussing it with them is apparently being a dick now i guess...

I am talking about your actions in regards to Raven. i think you can clearly see how much she cares and its unlikely shes scum here.

she cares? ok and so? do i not care about this game? yu think i'm just trolling the entire game because lol?? (actually considering your comments this game if you're town you probably do believe that but...) am i a dick now for daring to suspect the oh so holy raven might not be town?

no you dont care about this game cuz uve literally been in a deathtunnel for the entire game despite the metric ton of evidence against it.

In post 4563, Datisi wrote:

In post 4560, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4549, Datisi wrote:

In post 4546, Raven Branwen wrote:Fmpov, if I am the only possibility for Pooky!scum and I know we’re not buddies, why wouldn’t it make sense that I’m not convinced he’s scum?

do you think s_s/pooky is a viable scumteam, yes or no?

r u serious.

1. Koba put me at L-1 on d1
2. I am trying to get SS lynched today
3. SS asked the mod the question that confirmed I was lying about being a vig
4. I literally tried to get lynched in place of Dsj-town yesterday and accuse SS with my dying breath of being scum

sigh.

like i think i've made it abundantly clear that (1) my current guess is raven/pooky not s_s/pooky and i don't see the reason you're taking that post to mean that i've changed my opinion about the solve and (2) that is clearly a question that's supposed to help me see raven's pov so i don't see why you're butting in like this and s i g h

oh good so you're just going to admit your response to raven was in bad faith and you are just trying to keep her from having an AI meltdown before the game ends when I get mislynched.

I'm sorry if I've come off as arrogant, though it's weird to levy an accusation of arrogance and apathy at the same time.

I don't ever mean to suggest that my point of view is automatically the best and right. Everything I say is naturally filtered through my point of view, there's no reason to preface everything with "I believe..." or "In my opinion..."

cuz if raven continues her AI meltdown over this ridiculous raven/pooky team maybe skitter might change her mind on me and you cant have that.

do you even care about the truth dats or are you just pushing another Mislynch because you only need one more to win?

In post 4569, Something_Smart wrote:I'm sorry if I've come off as arrogant, though it's weird to levy an accusation of arrogance and apathy at the same time.

I don't ever mean to suggest that my point of view is automatically the best and right. Everything I say is naturally filtered through my point of view, there's no reason to preface everything with "I believe..." or "In my opinion..."

arrogant dicks usually dont give a fuck what the other people think so they look apathetic. thats why every time I talk with you i feel you are not engaging in good faith and just using bumblefuck logic.

In post 4568, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh good so you're just going to admit your response to raven was in bad faith and you are just trying to keep her from having an AI meltdown before the game ends when I get mislynched.

apparently "hey i don't think this Thing is the case and i think the person i'm talking to is scum but i'm going to ask their point of view on Thing to see if i'm maybe going wrong somewhere" is bad faith because fuck me i guess

no because your goal with that question is to get her to stop melting down and imply that you will consider a team other than raven/pooky basically saying hey I will not lynch you tommorrow just help me lynch pooky first. its patronizing and insulting because you know she thinks there wont be a fucking tommorrow if get lynched now.

In post 4571, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:arrogant dicks usually dont give a fuck what the other people think so they look apathetic. thats why every time I talk with you i feel you are not engaging in good faith and just using bumblefuck logic.

Don't you think that's because I'm scum, and not because I'm arrogant?