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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:09 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4549, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=83835

this is the last completed game review for a mini normal run by NPOM

if you read thru it, he tried to pass a setup with 2 mafia neighbors?
What is your theory for this game?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:10 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
this line is very relevant:
In post 6, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think there needs to be WIFOM setup in games to discourage town from winning the game based solely on what they expect the setup to be.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:10 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4550, DrippingGoofball wrote:What is your theory for this game?
I think you're probably a mafia rolecop because I have trouble seeing ffery prism or notsci being scum and I know I'm town.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:11 pm
by DrippingGoofball
But a FN is a FN... it's a confirmed townie.

Unless you're suggesting an all-goon team?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:12 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I am suggesting all-goon team. that is why I posted the NPOM quotes above.

Tho I guess we could just mail it in and get trolled

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:12 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4552, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4550, DrippingGoofball wrote:What is your theory for this game?
I think you're probably a mafia rolecop because I have trouble seeing ffery prism or notsci being scum and I know I'm town.
This game will be very interesting for me from the dead thread.

But I'm not sure I can wait.

When I flip green, who will be scum?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:13 pm
by notscience
I say vax

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:14 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4556, notscience wrote:I say vax
That would suppose an all-goon team.

If it's an all-goon team, then my results confirm neither Vax nor notscience.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:14 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
yea vax makes the most sense

what exactly does your role do again DGB

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:19 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4558, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea vax makes the most sense

what exactly does your role do again DGB
It doesn't do diddly squat.

I can tell PRs from non-PRs every second night.

But after your own discovery of NPOM being concerned about players winning games by making setup assumptions, do you really want to go there?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:20 pm
by notscience
In post 4557, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 4556, notscience wrote:I say vax
That would suppose an all-goon team.

If it's an all-goon team, then my results confirm neither Vax nor notscience.
Yes I know

You wanted me to be analytical didn’t you :P

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:20 pm
by Prism
Info is mod-confirmed, yes Ben is FN.

We have so much WIFOM already with 3 killstoppers and likely no strongman, let alone an ODD NIGHT vanilla cop, but we'll cross that bridge if we get to it

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:21 pm
by notscience
DGB>Vax>Pooky solves it imo.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:21 pm
by DrippingGoofball
What are three killstoppers?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:21 pm
by notscience
JK RB BP

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:21 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4562, notscience wrote:DGB>Vax>Pooky solves it imo.
Why Vax before Pooky?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:22 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
cuz I'm awesome

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:22 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4564, notscience wrote:JK RB BP
Who was BP?

The OP isn't updated.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:23 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4566, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz I'm awesome
The list is from most awesome to least awesome <3

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:24 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Am I at L-1?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:27 pm
by notscience
Prism.

And I’m trusting prisms points on Pooky. But I’m not upset going Pooky>vax

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:31 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1375

btw the town did end up losing because of the SST neighborhood that he put in to wifom the town so I would like to not lose if we are actually playing with a PR cop with a 3 goon setup due to lol-setup assumptions.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:31 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4570, notscience wrote:Prism.

And I’m trusting prisms points on Pooky. But I’m not upset going Pooky>vax
After I'm dead you'll have confirmation that Vax can only be a goon if scum.

But again - if I stepped into a 3 goon squad in a game that's not mountainous, that's probably the one situation where I would replace out not counting being on my deathbed. That's how bad a 3 goon scum team is, in my opinion, in a non-mountainous game.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:32 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
all goon team makes the only town investigative role a red-herring that can give false clears. its almost equivalent to a Godfather in a way

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:34 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 4573, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:all goon team makes the only town investigative role a red-herring that can give false clears. its almost equivalent to a Godfather in a way
Maybe but

You have a FN who is confirmed town and a forced NK for the scum. Ben isn't oozing townieness and solveyness so he's still alive LOL.
Then you have, as I just found out, three NK stoppers.

That's pretty unfair to the scumteam if you ask me.

I am arguing this because I really do believe this makes Vax town and I don't want you all to yeet him tomorrow.