Because I can explain very thoroughly why Empire is town if you really really need me to but I would much rather not.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:44 am
by Eddard Stark
~~
PrideandJoy have 15 posts left.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:44 am
by kanyeknowsbest
n that seemed like a lot of work. i was hoping 2 get the cliffnotes from you first and then mb id look @ it later 1nce i knew the points you were highlighting
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:45 am
by Nautilius
Shadoweh, Alchemist both could be scum although I still doubt Alchemist.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:46 am
by kanyeknowsbest
im running out of scum reads real bad if fredo is town like you are purporting
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:50 am
by Nautilius
-Empire's scumgame is very inconsistent; he can make one big post, but his consistency is absolute shit. During Day 1, Empire was around, he was posting, he was doing a lot of good things. Compare his D1 here with his D1 in that Mini Normal and you'll see a hell of a difference.
-Empire hates scum. Llamarble does not hate scum, and is competent at it. If that hydra drew scum, Llamarble would be the driving head and Empire would be in the background (see any morph the cat scum completed game for an example of that), but Empire was the primary driver the entire game and he's uncomfortable as fuck.
-See Empire's confidence in the mini normal scumgame, where his biggest meta threat was ffery versus his confidence here, where his biggest meta threats were Tammy/Tierce as part of the TET masonry. There's no way in hell he goes from awkward as hell as scum in a Mini Normal to god-tier town D1 here when there are more things he has to worry about here.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:50 am
by Nautilius
In post 4579, kanyeknowsbest wrote:im running out of scum reads real bad if fredo is town like you are purporting
who are your top 9 townreads?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:58 am
by Nautilius
Because my townblock would be something like:
Nautilius
Tammy
Tierce
Alfred
kanye
Cephrir
Titus
SafetyDance
ooba
I could happily kill everyone outside of this list and be pretty fucking confident of a town win with reservations on Titus but pretty much no one else.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:59 am
by Nautilius
and hell we could switch Titus with Garruk if elle flips scum (she probably will).
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:59 am
by Nautilius
or say fuckit, put Benmage in.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:00 am
by Cephrir
Quickly flipped through that iso because I was starting to feel nullish on that slot- the biggest difference I see is a lot more throwing up of hands there versus actually having suspects here. And not lurking, until recently anyway.
In post 4579, kanyeknowsbest wrote:im running out of scum reads real bad if fredo is town like you are purporting
who are your top 9 townreads?
shadowy benmage messiah naucho ooba tammy sd terizo. the rest of my town reads are circumstantial based on the way theyve seemingly played their role or they are slated to die today (rip goat).
i dont have cephrir as a town read because while hes done some very town things, his voting around the spyrex/quadz wagons is very much what i would expect from scum. hes prob the player im the most torn on. if someone who is strongly town reading or scum reading him wants to try and get me off the fence abt that kid id appreash it.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:05 am
by Cephrir
P.S. I pretty much have neither additions nor subtractions to make to that townbloc, except as you mentioned, probably Titus. I started talking about reservations I had about Shadoweh and then I realized she wasn't on the list, so, yeah.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:26 am
by Nautilius
my read on ceph is based on really awesome meta
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:26 am
by Nautilius
that i can probably explain later, but not necessarily in the mood to explain right now
what's your read on Shadoweh made out of?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:40 am
by chesskid3
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:41 am
by PrideandJoy
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:41 am
by PrideandJoy
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:42 am
by PrideandJoy
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:43 am
by Alfred Borden
That's a good list.
This is a simple decision. VOTE: Goat on a Raft