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Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:33 am**

In post 4527, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In Memory

Votecount 5.182:

Mhsmith0 (2): Creature, Alisae
Malachite (1): drealmerz7
Alisae (1): Frozen Angel
Frozen Angel (0):
drealmersz7 (0):
JaeReed (0):
Creature (0):
Postie (0):

Not Voting: Postie, JaeReed, Mhsmith0, Malachite

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2017-02-15 21:00:00).

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:33 am**

In post 4569, Alisae wrote:
In post 4516, Frozen Angel wrote:plus their a little off about the way they talked about RM being obvscum based on DEO reads. and their not doing the happy jumpying branching around and emotional involvement I saw in their town them and Gamma slot was so Ehhh early game with the way they pushed people and buddied DEO
So basicly I'm being a lot more quiet because there's a lot of conversation that's going on that I think is silly (like the drealmerz and you fight, and a bunch of other fights I thought were TvTs) and not playing to my meta therefore I'm scum?

And Gamma realy trusted Deo. Hell Deo even claimed to them how their abilities worked. This was like, a long time ago.

so many TvT's around cause we have 1 scum left

who is scum if your not

make a case

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:35 am**

thats the point

how can I know if its self vanalyze and your not with new abilities atm?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:37 am**

Because D4 I didn't have a vote.
If I was vanilized wouldn't I have my vote counted yesterday?
Hell if I was vanilized by someone else, it would to have happened N3, and Gamma had his double voting powers then.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:40 am**

I know your vote thing is changed the way it was promised

why should I trust you that you don't have any other abilities?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:43 am**

Besides the fact that my flavor is a Slaking I can't get you to trust me.

Also DEO told Gamma D1 in the nieghbourhood about how their abilities work.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:52 am**

Is that all your role or are you hiding something

this is the last chance for fixing it

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:52 am**

That's my role.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:08 pm**

In post 4176, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In Memory

Votecount 4.168:

The DEO (3): Klingoncelt, ɀefiend, drealmerz7
ɀefiend (2): Creature, JaeReed
Frozen Angel (1): The DEO
Mhsmith0 (1):
Klingoncelt (0):
drealmersz7 (0):
Alisae (0):
JaeReed (0):
Creature (0):
Postie (0):

Not Voting: Postie, Mhsmith0, Alisae, Frozen Angel

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2017-02-03 21:00:00).

@MOD: Can I presume the (1) on me here was a typo?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:19 pm**

Spoiler: Updated VC Data

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:09 pm**

Quick thoughts:
1) Voting pattern on days 1 and 2 make a good deal more sense if RM/boring was scum. Day 1 RM (boring), vedith (vax), and zef never vote together, and day 2 there’s a collective preference among vax/zef to vote lycan over rm/boring.

2) Day 3 pattern in particular looks pretty decent for JaeReed. A pretty clear preference for one scum over the other, and the scum he wanted lynched was the vanillaizer (pretty much always more useful to scum than a 1-shot strongman). Probably worth looking at Vax ending the day with a useless vote parked on JR to see if I’m wrong and it was a fake spew thing, but that seems unlikely, especially given Alisae’s claim of having ALSO been vanillaized (JR having that many simultaneous powers as scum doesn’t seem reasonable to me)

3) 3.116 as a pattern just looks WEIRD. It’s like they’re just throwing whatever on the wall to see if anything at all would pick up, as opposed to piling on one specific thing in order to try and drive a counter-wagon.

4) Just eyeballing it, KC/Malachite seems the most obvious potential answer, but I kind of wonder if it’s just TOO obvious. Like, if it’s them you have a scum team that:
nearly never voted together at all on day 1 (except RM/KC piling on KTS late);
entirely piled on Lycan to try and save RM day 2 (while RM wasn’t there at all to hammer in the brief window, which if that’s the team must have just sucked for everyone who stuck their necks out for her);
had zef/KC voting together on DEO cw to try and save zef early day 3, and spread votes out on one-vote vanity wagons at 3.116 to see if anything would stick (although hopping onto Vax instead of DEO at 3.126 was a bit surprising if that’s a bus);
did an early bus early D4, then had mala/zef both pile onto DEO, with Mala never hopping back onto zef once it was largely inevitable
Clearly possible… but idk. Probably the most obvious answer from eyeballing VC data but it doesn’t quite feel right.

5) Presuming that RM/boring was actually scum, 2.56 is a pretty good look for creature. That’s a point where hopping onto the lycan wagon to move the mislynch count one forward is something that scum can probably get away with (and scum already piled on to some degree given vax/zef flips); him not doing so is relatively positive I think, especially since the lycan claim was easily something that could have been written off as nothing worth avoiding a hammer for.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:11 pm**

Anyway, since it's pretty likely we're down to final scum we really should be doing mass claim I think.

Also, @Alisae: can you talk about what vanilla-ized you? Is this a permanent change to a 1-voter? Are you only like this for today? Was RC unclear about which was the case?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:11 pm**

I self-vanillize myself N4.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:16 pm**

Oh so it wasn't someone else's action, it's that you now are a regular one-voter as part of your role and it's permanent?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:17 pm**

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:20 pm**

OK. I was thinking there was a 2nd vanillazier and was wondering wtf was going on.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:20 pm**

Apparently Slakings can mega-evolve.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:23 pm**

Are you claiming a secondary post evolve ability then?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:28 pm**

When I mega-evolve I basicly become a normal voter.
Basicly if I was a Slaking mega-evolution, I would have less attack and not have Traunt anymore.
Basicly I'm a VT.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:33 pm**

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:15 am**

Right now I think scum is Frozen Angel by PoE, but I'm wondering about drealmerz7.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:17 am**

rethink about your poe

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:18 am**

mhsmith0 it isn't scum.

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:20 am**

I'm voting Alisae

Posted: **Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:24 am**

Hmm, why?