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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:50 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4574, Elsa Jay wrote:Jj if I say something and you agree he'll just say we're scum together dangit. Find something elsa to roast about him.

JJH is confirmed scum. You’re scum or just being bad town, it’s about 50/50, tbh, but i don’t care too much about that. You’re probably town.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:52 am
by Elsa Jay
In post 4572, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4570, Elsa Jay wrote:The fact you can say that means you can fucking mimick it pretty well, Flava flave.

And again... You said you targetted me n1. I'm never trusting you here.
You fakeclaimed mason. Why wouldn’t i target you Night 1? You fake claim more than I do, but you commit harder to it. Terrible reasoning.
1: still not proven as a fake claim at all.
2: mister pot calling madam kettle out for fake claims, much shock, such irony.
3: if you know that much about me then I'm STILL never a n1 check. I literally self resolve.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:52 am
by jjh927
I don't think it really matters what anyone says in this argument because he's following the template
In post 4556, jjh927 wrote:This is frankly insufferable

-quote post
-take it out of context to bullshit
-call me scum
To an extent I think all I can hope for is that people actually read the arguments and evaluate based on merit so I might stop for now

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:56 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4576, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 4572, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4570, Elsa Jay wrote:The fact you can say that means you can fucking mimick it pretty well, Flava flave.

And again... You said you targetted me n1. I'm never trusting you here.
You fakeclaimed mason. Why wouldn’t i target you Night 1? You fake claim more than I do, but you commit harder to it. Terrible reasoning.
1: still not proven as a fake claim at all.
2: mister pot calling madam kettle out for fake claims, much shock, such irony.
3: if you know that much about me then I'm STILL never a n1 check. I literally self resolve.
More like the pot also calling another pot, hey you like me, we the same thing, more than calling the kettle black.

I also disagree. You are always a good Night 1 target. I feel this isn’t even the first game I’ve Night 1 checked you.

You say “not proven as a fake claim”

Which means Implied that it’s a fake claim. You NEVER claim that there Day 1, especially if Mastina was your actual mason partner.

On top of that, you both are still alive, and have gotten zero to little scrutiny on it.

On top of that, I play mafia on a social level, not mechanical level, not a psychological level, a sociological based game, i draw from psychoanalytical and mechanical, but sociological base comes first for me, and that it’s basically confirmed from the very beginning that you two weren’t masons together.

I even called that out Day 1.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:58 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4577, jjh927 wrote:I don't think it really matters what anyone says in this argument because he's following the template
In post 4556, jjh927 wrote:This is frankly insufferable

-quote post
-take it out of context to bullshit
-call me scum
To an extent I think all I can hope for is that people actually read the arguments and evaluate based on merit so I might stop for now

This is exactly why they should town read me. Never in a hundred years, as scum, do I have the less logical merit based arguments. That is through and through townFlavor Leaf.

I don’t need arguments, i have a guilty. I have literal confbias against you, so I can point out literally everything in your ISO and no without a doubt, that it is coming from a scum mindset.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:58 am
by Elsa Jay
And again: Notice it was Mastina who claimed first and not me? Why must you smudge important details like that?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:00 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4580, Elsa Jay wrote:And again: Notice it was Mastina who claimed first and not me? Why must you smudge important details like that?
I was talking about the collective of you two.

I understand why town of both of you guys would do it, as non masons. But you don’t do it as actual masons.

You’re probably neighbors. That i could believe. You’re probably trying to manipulate Mastina in there.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:01 am
by Flavor Leaf
You both are literally just speaking and talking to make it look like you are doing something. You are waiting around for me to say something so you can an respond to it directly to try and discredit me further without having an actual lick of analytical content.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:01 am
by Elsa Jay
I've literally been pulling a potato but you call ME the manipulator? Against someone like my Lord Mastina? That's a no-go my friend.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:02 am
by jjh927
In post 4579, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is exactly why they should town read me. Never in a hundred years, as scum, do I have the less logical merit based arguments. That is through and through townFlavor Leaf.

I don’t need arguments, i have a guilty. I have literal confbias against you, so I can point out literally everything in your ISO and no without a doubt, that it is coming from a scum mindset.
I can find a huge amount of proof to the contrary in the two games I've played with you

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:03 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4583, Elsa Jay wrote:I've literally been pulling a potato but you call ME the manipulator? Against someone like my Lord Mastina? That's a no-go my friend.
Okay, you’re right, you could still be town, but you can see my point here.

And if you were actually masons, there’s no reason for you to argue with me about that, because if you are masons, I am actively helping you hide from scum by putting doubt on the claim. You fighting it is sociological evidence— proof that you aren’t.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:04 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4584, jjh927 wrote:
In post 4579, Flavor Leaf wrote:This is exactly why they should town read me. Never in a hundred years, as scum, do I have the less logical merit based arguments. That is through and through townFlavor Leaf.

I don’t need arguments, i have a guilty. I have literal confbias against you, so I can point out literally everything in your ISO and no without a doubt, that it is coming from a scum mindset.
I can find a huge amount of proof to the contrary in the two games I've played with you
And i can point out 5+ that prove otherwise.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:07 am
by jjh927
That's literally impossible

You claimed a thing is not present in your scumgame and I'm saying it's all over both the scumgames of yours that I have seen

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:17 am
by Shiro
Jj you were never winning the 1v1 you are litteraly in everyone's lynch pool

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:20 am
by jjh927
Yeah due to a certain lack of content

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:22 am
by jjh927
About half the playerlist is aware of what my towngame looks like though, and I have a lot of time to commit to the game this week

Was just starting to get back into things eod3, which is why FL wanted to quickly lynch me there while it was still easily possible

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:23 am
by jjh927
Then because he tried to lynch me there, there's no way he couldn't predict what was coming- especially after he hammered Gamma

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:23 am
by Elsa Jay
Yeah probably the fake duck is dead. I'm not even going against the jjh lynch here, more just Flavor himself. I don't trust HIM, irrelevant to not-duck.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:24 am
by Shiro
And trade himself why?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:24 am
by Shiro
Lol I am pretty sure nobody gave a fuck about the hammer

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:25 am
by jjh927
I for one gave a huge fuck about the hammer

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:25 am
by jjh927
He's not even trading himself here because people like you are still gonna deny that FL is scum

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:27 am
by jjh927
Maybe he'll claim he has no idea what happened, or maybe he'll just outright admit he was fakeclaiming but you'll still think he's town for dumbass reasons

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:28 am
by Shiro
You were in no position to push him though, it would have led to the aforementioned 1v1 which you would have lost

P.edit

Hell no, if yiu flip anything other than traitor, I will be the first to vote him.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:29 am
by Shiro
If you are town he is dying tommorow