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Post Post #4575 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:32 pm

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I believe borks claim bc it looks like scum were supposed to use the silence in cylo and borks claim resets the day
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Post Post #4576 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:34 pm

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huh? walk me through that logic
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Post Post #4577 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:35 pm

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it's interesting that you're assuming the silence was a 1-shot though
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Post Post #4578 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:36 pm

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and now you're saying you don't think it was mariaboy preparing the explosion too lol
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Post Post #4579 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:36 pm

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Scum take someone out of the game and quick hammer someone and Bork resets the day which I assume brings that person back, because technically they were gone for one “day phase”

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It’s too broken to be a full power imo

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Will you let me post I’m trying to elaborate while I’m at work
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Post Post #4580 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:37 pm

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If you think scum me would be dumb enough to elaborate on the interactions with our prs in the main thread I’ve got nothing for you muffin

Even if I can’t hide my distaste for scum I’m not stupid lol
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Post Post #4581 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:37 pm

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In post 4575, Secret Tunnel wrote:I believe borks claim bc it looks like scum were supposed to use the silence in cylo and borks claim resets the day
there's nothing in my role to suggest that this would interact w/ "not being able to post in thread" in the way you're thinking.
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Post Post #4582 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:38 pm

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Just says it resets the VC
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Post Post #4583 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:40 pm

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i don't think you intentionally did that if you're scum, i think you just forgot to think about it properly

i do find it interesting that you were first assuming that this was them preparing to asplode and now you're thinking it's a scum role that was used on mariaboy for some reason?
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Post Post #4584 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:42 pm

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from your POV as someone who was likely to be asploded, you think scum wanted to silence mariaboy to do what? prevent them from talking before they asplode on you? you think they wasted what you're assuming is a 1-shot on that?
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Post Post #4585 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:43 pm

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At the risk of sounding like April I think it fits the narrative of a scum team including me. I’m not gonna pull the I’ve been framed shit because it’s overdone but yeah

And I looked up the silencer role and it typically comes scumsided

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Yeah maybe you’re right

Idk it was my fleeting thought re how pieces go together
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Post Post #4586 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:44 pm

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In post 4571, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I'm claiming, fuck it.

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If scum were to hammer me, at ELO, game will not end, VC will be reset, and my role PM will be posted in the thread.
I don't like this as a role. That just means scum lose essentially if they hammer you.

On top of that, yeah, it literally destroys scum if they get to endgame. You just self vote yourself.
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Post Post #4587 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:45 pm

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i don't believe bork's role exists for a number of reasons

do you get told when it's xylo bork? i know it's like super obvious this is a 10:3 but i've never seen a role that lets you know when xylo is in a closed game
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Post Post #4588 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:46 pm

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also don't believe that you'd think there's zero protective roles in the game just because you have that role. or are you saying that you just think the protective role he specifically claimed can't exist?

and the way you said "i don't believe all of these claims are town" instead of directly saying that you didn't believe 420's claim specifically is also meh

but you know that it at least makes it theoretically unsound to get rid of you before a xylo scenario (which, if it comes down to it,
100% needs to be tested, no questions asked
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*shrug*
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Post Post #4589 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:48 pm

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also it's rather specific that if SCUM hammers you at xylo, the game doesn't end? does that mean if town hammers you it does end?
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Post Post #4590 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:48 pm

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I also agree that I could see these roles in a game together tbh
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Post Post #4591 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm

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In post 4587, zMuffinMan wrote:do you get told when it's xylo bork? i know it's like super obvious this is a 10:3 but i've never seen a role that lets you know when xylo is in a closed game
I'm trying not to quote anything, but no. Just says it has to be an ELO or MELO situation. It does not tell me when we are at that point

p-edit: that's correct. it very specifically says that it has to be from scum.
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Post Post #4592 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm

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In post 4588, zMuffinMan wrote:but you know that it at least makes it theoretically unsound to get rid of you before a xylo scenario (which, if it comes down to it, 100% needs to be tested, no questions asked)
This seems like the mechanically correct move, but I swear that these types of things always go wrong.
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Post Post #4593 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm

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I believe Rem’s claim even though it hilariously works perfectly as a scum claim.
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Post Post #4594 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm

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so it conveniently can't actually be tested then

*shrug*
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Post Post #4595 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 4586, April Ludgate wrote:I don't like this as a role. That just means scum lose essentially if they hammer you.

On top of that, yeah, it literally destroys scum if they get to endgame. You just self vote yourself.
I get the sentiment, but here we are
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Post Post #4596 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm

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Can we kill Zmuffin?
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Post Post #4597 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm

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In post 4594, zMuffinMan wrote:so it conveniently can't actually be tested then
I am 100% willing to test it at what appears to be ELO w/ whomever we designate to test it with as song as we let someone we trust control the L-1 vote

Like if I come out at ELO and do anything but vote myself immedately just fucking kill me lol
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Post Post #4598 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm

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Morph what are you guys thinking
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Post Post #4599 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm

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What I don’t understand is why scum rem would fake claim out of the blue like this, though the last time I thought this scum was counter claiming their partner. Which sucked.
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