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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:32 pm
by Secret Tunnel
I believe borks claim bc it looks like scum were supposed to use the silence in cylo and borks claim resets the day

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:34 pm
by zMuffinMan
huh? walk me through that logic

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:35 pm
by zMuffinMan
it's interesting that you're assuming the silence was a 1-shot though

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:36 pm
by zMuffinMan
and now you're saying you don't think it was mariaboy preparing the explosion too lol

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:36 pm
by Secret Tunnel
Scum take someone out of the game and quick hammer someone and Bork resets the day which I assume brings that person back, because technically they were gone for one “day phase”

Pedit
It’s too broken to be a full power imo

Pedit
Will you let me post I’m trying to elaborate while I’m at work

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:37 pm
by Secret Tunnel
If you think scum me would be dumb enough to elaborate on the interactions with our prs in the main thread I’ve got nothing for you muffin

Even if I can’t hide my distaste for scum I’m not stupid lol

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:37 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 4575, Secret Tunnel wrote:I believe borks claim bc it looks like scum were supposed to use the silence in cylo and borks claim resets the day
there's nothing in my role to suggest that this would interact w/ "not being able to post in thread" in the way you're thinking.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:38 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
Just says it resets the VC

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:40 pm
by zMuffinMan
i don't think you intentionally did that if you're scum, i think you just forgot to think about it properly

i do find it interesting that you were first assuming that this was them preparing to asplode and now you're thinking it's a scum role that was used on mariaboy for some reason?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:42 pm
by zMuffinMan
from your POV as someone who was likely to be asploded, you think scum wanted to silence mariaboy to do what? prevent them from talking before they asplode on you? you think they wasted what you're assuming is a 1-shot on that?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:43 pm
by Secret Tunnel
At the risk of sounding like April I think it fits the narrative of a scum team including me. I’m not gonna pull the I’ve been framed shit because it’s overdone but yeah

And I looked up the silencer role and it typically comes scumsided

Pedit

Yeah maybe you’re right

Idk it was my fleeting thought re how pieces go together

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:44 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 4571, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I'm claiming, fuck it.

Brotherhood, Last Resort ("Catch You When You Fall Bro")

If scum were to hammer me, at ELO, game will not end, VC will be reset, and my role PM will be posted in the thread.
I don't like this as a role. That just means scum lose essentially if they hammer you.

On top of that, yeah, it literally destroys scum if they get to endgame. You just self vote yourself.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:45 pm
by zMuffinMan
i don't believe bork's role exists for a number of reasons

do you get told when it's xylo bork? i know it's like super obvious this is a 10:3 but i've never seen a role that lets you know when xylo is in a closed game

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:46 pm
by zMuffinMan
also don't believe that you'd think there's zero protective roles in the game just because you have that role. or are you saying that you just think the protective role he specifically claimed can't exist?

and the way you said "i don't believe all of these claims are town" instead of directly saying that you didn't believe 420's claim specifically is also meh

but you know that it at least makes it theoretically unsound to get rid of you before a xylo scenario (which, if it comes down to it,
100% needs to be tested, no questions asked
)

*shrug*

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:48 pm
by zMuffinMan
also it's rather specific that if SCUM hammers you at xylo, the game doesn't end? does that mean if town hammers you it does end?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:48 pm
by Secret Tunnel
I also agree that I could see these roles in a game together tbh

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 4587, zMuffinMan wrote:do you get told when it's xylo bork? i know it's like super obvious this is a 10:3 but i've never seen a role that lets you know when xylo is in a closed game
I'm trying not to quote anything, but no. Just says it has to be an ELO or MELO situation. It does not tell me when we are at that point

p-edit: that's correct. it very specifically says that it has to be from scum.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm
by midwaybear
In post 4588, zMuffinMan wrote:but you know that it at least makes it theoretically unsound to get rid of you before a xylo scenario (which, if it comes down to it, 100% needs to be tested, no questions asked)
This seems like the mechanically correct move, but I swear that these types of things always go wrong.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm
by Bell
I believe Rem’s claim even though it hilariously works perfectly as a scum claim.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:49 pm
by zMuffinMan
so it conveniently can't actually be tested then

*shrug*

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:50 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 4586, April Ludgate wrote:I don't like this as a role. That just means scum lose essentially if they hammer you.

On top of that, yeah, it literally destroys scum if they get to endgame. You just self vote yourself.
I get the sentiment, but here we are

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm
by April Ludgate
Can we kill Zmuffin?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 4594, zMuffinMan wrote:so it conveniently can't actually be tested then
I am 100% willing to test it at what appears to be ELO w/ whomever we designate to test it with as song as we let someone we trust control the L-1 vote

Like if I come out at ELO and do anything but vote myself immedately just fucking kill me lol

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm
by Secret Tunnel
Morph what are you guys thinking

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:51 pm
by Bell
What I don’t understand is why scum rem would fake claim out of the blue like this, though the last time I thought this scum was counter claiming their partner. Which sucked.